Spoilers For Tuesday March 2nd 2010

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:32 pm

It does seem to have noticably quiet on c4countdown today, but by the time 3:25pm has come, we'll all be heading for the TV sets and computers ready to share our love for this brilliant show.

So, to recap, Raheel, despite his SHOCKRATE, managed to survive a 2nd crucial conundrum yesterday, but can win without as much nerves and tension today

Dinos will fill you in later.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:33 pm

I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) before, but what's the record for most crucials survived?

Ian Dent · Post by **Ian Dent** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:39 pm

How does it feel when you have a crucial conundrum?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:49 pm

Ian Dent wrote:How does it feel when you have a crucial conundrum?

Longest 30 seconds of my life.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:00 pm

Ian Dent wrote:How does it feel when you have a crucial conundrum?

I didn't feel too different, it's only when the duh-duh-duhs start to sound and you're behind and you really start to panic.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:19 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) before, but what's the record for most crucials survived?

I'm not sure, although I suppose a starter would be Maurice Brown in Series 55, whose first 3 games were crucials and he won them all, the 3rd one was against our very own Sue Sanders.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:27 pm

You seem to have forgotten to mention that Huddersfield are gonna get destroyed by Saints tonight James

Junaid Mubeen · Post by **Junaid Mubeen** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:57 pm

Ian Dent wrote:How does it feel when you have a crucial conundrum?

Depends on the outcome, I guess. Quite nice when you kill off the tension by buzzing after a second. Quite horrible when the only words you can think of during the 30 seconds are "man, I'm screwed".

Chris McHenry had 5 during his Octorun but the record probably belongs to someone who played through a CoC/Supreme which tend to produce a lot. Of course, crucials are more likely over 9 rounds, so it's probably someone from back in the day. To summarise, I ain't got a clue.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:07 pm

Jon Corby wrote:You seem to have forgotten to mention that Huddersfield are gonna get destroyed by Saints tonight James

Is the same Southampton team that lost 3-1 at the Galpharm back in August, Jon

Although, in fairness, they have improved a good deal since then.
I should point out a couple of weeks ago, Town went to Carlisle, three days after they scored 5 in a home match, and we won. Now, I believe that your team scored 5 in a home match last weekend, and three days later, here we are.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:11 pm

James Robinson wrote:Is the same Southampton team that lost 3-1 at the Galpharm back in August, Jon

No, it's quite different now.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:36 pm

TENSIONS for round 3.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:37 pm

CENTAVOS as a beater in round 4.

Peter Mabey · Post by **Peter Mabey** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:39 pm

Simpler first numbers:25x(3x9+2)

Mark Kudlowski · Post by **Mark Kudlowski** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:39 pm

((3 x 9) + 2) x 25 for 1st numbers
Peter just pipped me !

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:40 pm

Alt. numbers : 7 x 3 - (2/2) + 9 = 29
29 x 25 = 725

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:41 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:Alt. numbers : 7 x 3 - (2/2) + 9 = 29
29 x 25 = 725

Yawn.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:50 pm

NATTERER.

Chris Davies · Post by **Chris Davies** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:02 pm

PERORATE

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:02 pm

PERORATE as a beater in round 12.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:03 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:PERORATE as a beater in round 12.

Yawn

Was about to put PRORATE aswell.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:10 pm

I said yawn as posting various numbers solutions isn't much fun, particularly today's where all you had to do was find 29 out of 7, 3, 2, 9 and 2.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:18 pm

Damn NATTERER. Ruined my perfect game

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:22 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I said yawn as posting various numbers solutions isn't much fun, particularly today's where all you had to do was find 29 out of 7, 3, 2, 9 and 2.

I genuinely saw my solution first in the 30 seconds, probably why my maths on Apterous is so bad.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:26 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I said yawn as posting various numbers solutions isn't much fun

But posting 'beaters' incessantly is such a stimulating experience..........................

I'd rather read what you didn't get. All very well posting beaters, but nobody ever admits to losing certain rounds or missing obvious words, which makes it all rather ridic.

Edit to add, 'you' being the posters, not just Kirk.

Jojo Apollo · Post by **Jojo Apollo** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:50 pm

D Eadie wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:I said yawn as posting various numbers solutions isn't much fun
But posting 'beaters' incessantly is such a stimulating experience..........................

I'd rather read what you didn't get. All very well posting beaters, but nobody ever admits to losing certain rounds or missing obvious words, which makes it all rather ridic.

Edit to add, 'you' being the posters, not just Kirk.

I missed TENSIONS, NATTERER, PERORATE, RETREAT and I was also beaten on the conundrum.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:51 pm

For the recap: Anyone catch Phil's invalid 6 in round 6? I missed it but heard Susie say he needed an A.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:53 pm

Dinos Sfyris wrote:For the recap: Anyone catch Phil's invalid 6 in round 6? I missed it but heard Susie say he needed an A.

wasn't that BOLDIES/BALDIES ? (7)

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:55 pm

Thanks Matt [/hugs] Sounded like BALDIES.

Jojo Apollo · Post by **Jojo Apollo** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:56 pm

Yeah it was BALDIES, he also did a demo.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:59 pm

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Thanks Matt [/hugs] Sounded like BALDIES.

Yeah Susie came straight in with the "there's no A" without asking him to spell it so hard to know whether he misread the selection or just spelt it wrong. I guess these dilemmas are what a recapper faces.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:06 pm

Yeah sometimes I don't want to walk outside in the morning knowing the stuff I'll have to face on a daily basis

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:08 pm

D Eadie wrote:
I'd rather read what you didn't get.

This sounds even more tedious. The last four shows I've gone 14 maxes, 12 maxes, 14 maxes, 14 maxes. DC beaters and RR beaters are great -- DC equallers are OK (particularly if they're nice words) but if I was to say "I found 15 sevens in this round" and listed them all, then it'd be pretty dire. Mind you we're all different and you'll probably reply that you enjoy that kind of thing.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:12 pm

I have to admit I don't really see the point of beaters these days, but alternative numbers methods really are completely tedious in 99% of cases. But meh, it takes me about 2 nanoseconds to identify and skip over them, so knock yourselves out.

Jojo Apollo · Post by **Jojo Apollo** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:22 pm

I personally like seeing the beaters, I now have the word CENTAVOS fixed in the mind after seeing it a few times on here, whereas before I would have thought NOVATES or AVOCETS were the maxes. Also now in future, hopefully I can see the valid PERORATE instead of the invalid OPERATER.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:12 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
D Eadie wrote:
I'd rather read what you didn't get.
This sounds even more tedious. The last four shows I've gone 14 maxes, 12 maxes, 14 maxes, 14 maxes. DC beaters and RR beaters are great -- DC equallers are OK (particularly if they're nice words) but if I was to say "I found 15 sevens in this round" and listed them all, then it'd be pretty dire. Mind you we're all different and you'll probably reply that you enjoy that kind of thing.

The fact that you even remember those statistics from the last 4 shows troubles me deeply. I don't enjoy any of that sort of thing at all, it gives me the dry heaves.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:24 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:I'm sure this has been asked (and answered) before, but what's the record for most crucials survived?
I'm not sure, although I suppose a starter would be Maurice Brown in Series 55, whose first 3 games were crucials and he won them all, the 3rd one was against our very own Sue Sanders.

Harvey Freeman's four games in the supremes before the final were all crucial, as well as at least the last two of his CofC, making six and possibly seven consecutive crucial conundrums.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:41 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:Thanks Matt [/hugs] Sounded like BALDIES.
Yeah Susie came straight in with the "there's no A" without asking him to spell it so hard to know whether he misread the selection or just spelt it wrong. I guess these dilemmas are what a recapper faces.

Not really, because BOLDIES doesn't exist, so he'd have got no points anyway.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:44 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:Thanks Matt [/hugs] Sounded like BALDIES.
Yeah Susie came straight in with the "there's no A" without asking him to spell it so hard to know whether he misread the selection or just spelt it wrong. I guess these dilemmas are what a recapper faces.
Not really, because BOLDIES doesn't exist, so he'd have got no points anyway.

Except the recapper needs to know what the declaration was. (fsvo 'needs')

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:44 pm

D Eadie wrote:
The fact that you even remember those statistics from the last 4 shows troubles me deeply.

Haha this is where the sadness continues. I write all selections down in a book and after the show use solvers and tick which rounds I max and write in red pen any words of higher length I miss. This aids as a way to remember new words or just give myself a kick up the backside to remind myself not to miss THESPIAN again, kind of thing. At the end of the game I just put how many maxes I got. No real need but it's sometimes nice to quickly flick back through the book to see my run of form or any improvements. I enjoy the game and always strive to be better.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:50 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Not really, because BOLDIES doesn't exist, so he'd have got no points anyway.
Except the recapper needs to know what the declaration was. (fsvo 'needs')

Hence the innovation that is subtitles.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:50 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Not really, because BOLDIES doesn't exist, so he'd have got no points anyway.
Except the recapper needs to know what the declaration was. (fsvo 'needs')
Hence the innovation that is subtitles.

How is the subtitler supposed to know?

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:55 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Hence the innovation that is subtitles.
How is the subtitler supposed to know?

Surely a subtitler has the skills needed to decipher the difference in sound between BOLDIES and BALDIES

If not, they should be sacked.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:56 pm

James Robinson wrote: Surely a subtitler has the skills needed to decipher the difference in sound between BOLDIES and BALDIES
If not, they should be sacked.

JackHurst · Post by **JackHurst** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:07 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Hence the innovation that is subtitles.
How is the subtitler supposed to know?
Surely a subtitler has the skills needed to decipher the difference in sound between BOLDIES and BALDIES
If not, they should be sacked.

I dont know if this is a joke or not.

Ian Dent · Post by **Ian Dent** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:32 pm

Jon Corby wrote:You seem to have forgotten to mention that Huddersfield are gonna get destroyed by Saints tonight James

Good work Jon Corby.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:56 pm

Ian Dent wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:You seem to have forgotten to mention that Huddersfield are gonna get destroyed by Saints tonight James
Good work Jon Corby.

Not to mention Rickie Lambert, Lee Barnard, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond and Papa Waigo. But yeah, mainly good work me

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:09 pm

Jon Corby wrote:
Ian Dent wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:You seem to have forgotten to mention that Huddersfield are gonna get destroyed by Saints tonight James
Good work Jon Corby.
Not to mention Rickie Lambert, Lee Barnard, Jason Puncheon, Dean Hammond and Papa Waigo. But yeah, mainly good work me

Oh well, if there are any Gillingham fans on here, you're going down big time on Saturday

Niall Seymour · Post by **Niall Seymour** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:52 pm

The same Rickie Lambert your chairman didn't think was worth £1 million James?

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:18 pm

Niall Seymour wrote:The same Rickie Lambert your chairman didn't think was worth £1 million James?

Yes, the chairman of Town, the brilliant Mr Dean Hoyle, who actually lives just a street away from me. He thought that given the fact that Lambert is roughly 30 years old, and because he had no experience above League One, he couldn't see how he'd make a profit in 3 years, on the basis that he would give him a 3-year contract. Hence, Town have a good academy, and most of the players we buy in are very young and all the older ones we've got on free transfers.

Clever thinking by a man who's business is worth £400 million.

Niall Seymour · Post by **Niall Seymour** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:40 pm

James Robinson wrote: Yes, the chairman of Town, the brilliant Mr Dean Hoyle, who actually lives just a street away from me. He thought that given the fact that Lambert is roughly 30 years old

He's just turned 28, I'm not being pedantic for the sake of it because 2 seasons is a long time in a footballers career.

and because he had no experience above League One, he couldn't see how he'd make a profit in 3 years, on the basis that he would give him a 3-year contract.

Maybe not but he's the best striker in League One bar none and would get you into the Championship which would give you so much additional revenue that a sell on fee would not be important. In addition he won't age in the same way other players do because his main attribute isn't pace; it's his footballing brain and technical ability so he could easily play into his late 30s at a decent level. I'm sure if Saints sell him in the summer they will treble their money for him.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:50 pm

Niall Seymour wrote:Maybe not but he's the best striker in League One bar none and would get you into the Championship which would give you so much additional revenue that a sell on fee would not be important. In addition he won't age in the same way other players do because his main attribute isn't pace; it's his footballing brain and technical ability so he could easily play into his late 30s at a decent level. I'm sure if Saints sell him in the summer they will treble their money for him.

Well, I'm just quoting what he said. Lambert is a very good player, you obviously know that, being a supporter of Bristol Rovers. He's definitely been a thorn in our side in recent years, but our chairman does what he thinks is good in business terms. We definitely would've liked to have him in our team, but people have their reasons.

Ryan Taylor · Post by **Ryan Taylor** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:37 pm

Just got round to watching today's show (and Wednesdays). I saw a nice 6 in the form of KABOOM. That's all I have to offer.

Martin Bishop · Post by **Martin Bishop** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:08 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
D Eadie wrote:
I'd rather read what you didn't get.
This sounds even more tedious. The last four shows I've gone 14 maxes, 12 maxes, 14 maxes, 14 maxes. DC beaters and RR beaters are great -- DC equallers are OK (particularly if they're nice words) but if I was to say "I found 15 sevens in this round" and listed them all, then it'd be pretty dire. Mind you we're all different and you'll probably reply that you enjoy that kind of thing.

I think Damian meant he wanted to read people say "Shit fuck arse, I only got a fucking 4 in round 7. FUCK!"

By contrast, I got MANHOLE in round 13.