Date Dice
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Date Dice
I have two dice that can be used to display any day of the month in numerical format. Today, they are showing 0 and 8.
Both dice are 6 sided. What are the numbers on each of the dice?
Please don't post the answer, because it's quite a nice puzzle I think. PM me the answer if you me to reward you as an obedient slave for a day.
Both dice are 6 sided. What are the numbers on each of the dice?
Please don't post the answer, because it's quite a nice puzzle I think. PM me the answer if you me to reward you as an obedient slave for a day.
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Re: Date Dice
Is this puzzle of your own construction?
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Re: Date Dice
I honestly don't remember. It's jotted down in one of my older notebooks, but I haven't put a source by it.
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Re: Date Dice
I have a calendar on my computer desk in front of me that consists of exactly what you described, so I found this puzzle quite easy.
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Re: Date Dice
Do I get bonus points if I tell you what the days and months are in Danish? Because that's where my date dice calender came from. And no, I'm not going to pm the answer.
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Re: Date Dice
After first thinking this was impossible, I think I've worked it out.
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Re: Date Dice
Matt and Jon have solved it. They get to share the top prize of a high-end fridge.
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Re: Date Dice
Hello?Kieran Child wrote:Matt and Jon have solved it.
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The referee is already flagging offside for references to Jon and I sharing our Smeg...
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Oh Phil solved it too, also some other people, but I think I've replied to all of them.
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I think this had had long enough without any replies now. Kieran - want to give some clues or are you happy for someone to just post the answer (or, indeed, post it yourself)?
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Re: Date Dice
Fair point, hillariously made.
The main thing to notice is that 6 can be flipped as a 9. Once you realise this, the rest of it is just logic to fit together.
Both dice have 0,1,2 on them, and then 3,4,5,6,7,8 are spread over the two dice.
My answer in the book is this:
0,1,2,3,4,5
0,1,2,6,7,8
The main thing to notice is that 6 can be flipped as a 9. Once you realise this, the rest of it is just logic to fit together.
Both dice have 0,1,2 on them, and then 3,4,5,6,7,8 are spread over the two dice.
My answer in the book is this:
0,1,2,3,4,5
0,1,2,6,7,8
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I thought I'd post my 'strategy' (for want of a better word) for this, since I found it moderately interesting.
You start off knowing you have 12 'spaces' available, and a total of 10 numbers that need to be printed at least once. This means at most 2 duplicates. So first you know you've got to have a 1 on each die, for 11, and a 2 on each die, for 22. You also have to have a 0 on each die, because it's impossible to have 01 up to 09 with a 0 on only one die. But now you've got three duplicates, which means you can't have every number, and so at least two digits now have to be represented on the same face.
Admittedly if you just spot the 6/9 thing at the start you can avoid all that, although at least this way you prove you can't do it without that sort of trick. (although there may well be an even more succinct way of showing it)
You start off knowing you have 12 'spaces' available, and a total of 10 numbers that need to be printed at least once. This means at most 2 duplicates. So first you know you've got to have a 1 on each die, for 11, and a 2 on each die, for 22. You also have to have a 0 on each die, because it's impossible to have 01 up to 09 with a 0 on only one die. But now you've got three duplicates, which means you can't have every number, and so at least two digits now have to be represented on the same face.
Admittedly if you just spot the 6/9 thing at the start you can avoid all that, although at least this way you prove you can't do it without that sort of trick. (although there may well be an even more succinct way of showing it)
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Oh. I'd been working on this before I saw you've given an answer.
To my mind, you don't need a zero on both dice because when it's the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc, of the month, there's no rule mentioned that says you have to display it as 01, 02, 03. So I'd just put the one relevent one out on the first 9 days of the month. So then, as long as 1,2, and 3 are on the opposite one to 0, you can do it, and it saves on dusting!
But I admit, your way is more 'tricksey'
N.B note my careful avoidance of the term dice, dices and die as I've just suffered a mind blank as to which is singular and which plural.
To my mind, you don't need a zero on both dice because when it's the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc, of the month, there's no rule mentioned that says you have to display it as 01, 02, 03. So I'd just put the one relevent one out on the first 9 days of the month. So then, as long as 1,2, and 3 are on the opposite one to 0, you can do it, and it saves on dusting!
But I admit, your way is more 'tricksey'
N.B note my careful avoidance of the term dice, dices and die as I've just suffered a mind blank as to which is singular and which plural.
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I hope to get rid of the 'displaying 8 as 8' idea by saying today was 08
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Yes, I saw that and assumed that to be a lure in the wrong direction that was all part of the evilness of the puzzle. You see, I was trying to think outside the box!!! On which subject can you PM me the answer to the 3 houses/3 services puzzle please - I'm really busy at the moment and really need to stop being distracted by it! Ta.Kieran Child wrote:I hope to get rid of the 'displaying 8 as 8' idea by saying today was 08
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Re: Date Dice
When I PMed Keiran, I offered two solutions: one where you don't need to use both dice for 1-9 and one where one dice covered 6 and 9.Sue Sanders wrote:Oh. I'd been working on this before I saw you've given an answer.
To my mind, you don't need a zero on both dice because when it's the 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc, of the month, there's no rule mentioned that says you have to display it as 01, 02, 03. So I'd just put the one relevent one out on the first 9 days of the month. So then, as long as 1,2, and 3 are on the opposite one to 0, you can do it, and it saves on dusting!
But I admit, your way is more 'tricksey'
N.B note my careful avoidance of the term dice, dices and die as I've just suffered a mind blank as to which is singular and which plural.
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