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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:02 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:25 pm
The final CO-event of the year happened in Wolverhampton Saturday, and a whopping five of us did the wet Wolverhampton parkrun beforehand. Here are the results out of 321 runners:

7. Gevin Chapwell - 19:09
92. Jonathan Wynn - 26:24
256. Fiona T - 34:42

Er, I can't seem to find Callum or Bradley in the results, so I'll get back to you...


Bradley made the rookie error of forgetting his barcode.

Cal scanned, but for some reason the result hasn't registered. He should email, but is not sufficiently arsed to do so.

I believe the finish order was

Gevin
JW
Cal
Bra
Fiona

We all got free rice and olive oil from the co-op though :)
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:38 pm

Thanks Fiona. I'd messaged them both anyway and what you say backs up their claims! So I'll start again:

The final CO-event of the year happened in Wolverhampton Saturday, and a whopping five of us did the wet Wolverhampton parkrun beforehand. Here are the results out of 321 runners:

7. Gevin Chapwell - 19:09 (83.3 points)
92. Jonathan Wynn - 26:24 (66.7 points)
220. Callum Todd - 32:07 (50 points)
240. Bradley Horrocks - 33:23 (33.3 points)
256. Fiona T - 34:42 (16.7 points)

Callum and Bradley's positions and times are estimates, but the order of the five of us is not thought to be controversial, so it wouldn't affect the championship points anyway. Callum said he thought he took about 31 minutes and that it could therefore be position 199 or 202 (both unknown runners in the results), but his Strava log says he took 32:03, so I've given him position 220 (also an unknown), which finished in 32:07, although I'm happy to discuss this further. Bradley thought he was position 240 (an unknown), and I've given him that. Unknown runners aren't given a time in the parkrun results, but you can find them on runbritainrankings here.

The final standings then:

The standings:

1. Gevin Chapwell (440.6 points)
2. Callum Todd (223.3 points)
3. Fiona T (150.6 points)
4. Jonathan Wynn (122.2 points)
5. Oliver Garner (80 points)
6. Tim Down (77.8 points)
7. David Hilton (66.7 points)
=. Eddy Byrne (66.7 points)
9. Dave Ryan (44.4 points)
10. Mike Springett (33.3 points)
=. Bradley Horrocks (33.3 points)
11. Suzy Turner (11.1 points)

I had messed up Fiona's points earlier in the year but it should be rectified now for this final list (I haven't kept a spreadsheet but have just been adding on to the previous results, which might be dangerous). 440.6 points is a new annual record as well.

Why did you get free rice and olive oil?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:59 am

Ahead of the new season starting at COLIN this coming weekend, I've updated the PB list. Since the last update we've had improvements from Oliver Garner, Jon Elmer, Matthew Tassier, Jonathan Wynn, and Gerry Tynan, with Bradley Horrocks also registering an unofficial result. And Oliver Garner has broken 16 minutes, which is very impressive indeed.

And just to clarify the points system for this year - it will be the same as the FOCAL championship (as far as I understand anyway), which means scores will be between 0 and 1000 and all fractions will be rounded up or down (0.5 will be rounded up). The decimals won't be stored as part of the score, so two lots of 333 will add up to 666, not 667. I doubt it will make a difference to anything though.

Also, if for any reason different people go to different parkruns, they will effectively by treated as separate events. So if one person does one parkrun, they will score 500, and if two do a different one, they will score 667 and 333. To qualify, you need to do a parkrun and the CO-event, but the parkrun can be anywhere.

I've been generous in the past by giving points for DNFs and runs without barcodes, and I see no reason to stop that.
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:39 pm
Right, I'm going to put up a ranking list of Countdown/Apterous parkrunners. I'll check it every so often to see if anyone's beaten their PB, and if anyone is really insistent that they don't want to be on the list, then I can remove their name. And if I've forgotten anyone, let me know and I can add them. This list is unlikely to be anywhere near exhaustive.

1. John Ashcroft - 15:15
2. Oliver Garner - 15:54
3. Jonathan Rawlinson - 17:24
4. Tim Down - 17:45
5. Matt Bayfield - 17:56
6. Gevin Chapwell - 18:09
7. Tim Springett - 18:32
8. James Bradley - 19:04
9. James Laverty - 19:21
10. Giles Hutchings - 19:48
11. Andy Noden - 20:06
12. Conrad Teixeira - 20:07
13. Adam Gillard - 20:18
14. Tom Hargreaves - 20:20
15. Dave Nicholson - 20:27
16. Michael Springett - 20:36
17. Ryan Taylor - 20:39
18. Adam Curran - 21:14
19. Jon Elmer - 21:32
20. Kirk Bevins - 21:58
=. Jon Corby - 21:58
22. Ian Volante - 22:01
23. David Williams - 22:38
24. Richard Brittain - 22:55
25. David Hilton - 23:07
26. James Wilson - 23:38
27. Matthew Tassier - 23:58
28. Jon O'Neill - 24:10
29. Jonathan Wynn - 24:39
30. Stephen Read - 24:43
31. Dave Ryan - 24:48
32. Zubair Patel - 24:56
33. Rose Boyle - 25:33
34. Tom Feilding - 26:16
35. Lauren Hamer - 26:30
36. Callum Todd - 27:36
37. Tom Chafer-Cook - 28:11
38. Fiona T - 28:47
39. Gerry Tynan - 28:58
40. Suzy Turner - 29:08
41. Paul Talmey - 30:22
42. Eddy Byrne - 31:04
43. Rachel Perkins - 36:40
44. Jack Worsley - 36:53
45. Noel Pereira - 44:14

Also Bradley Horrocks got 33:23 in 240th place in this run but I can't find his name for any run on the parkrun site so he doesn't have an official time yet.
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:56 pm

Saturday 25th January saw a record 10 Countdowners take part in the inaugural Doddington Hall parkrun before COLIN. Chris Marshall also took part in his first ever parkrun! And so here are the results out of 396 runners:

9. Gevin Chapwell - 18:28 (909 points)
12. Tim Down - 18:50 (818 points)
52. Mike Springett - 22:37 (727 points)
150. Dave Ryan - 26:33 (636 points)
187. Zubair Patel - 27:41 (545 points)
199. Callum Todd - 28:09 (455 points)
209. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33 (364 points)
217. Suzy Turner - 28:51 (273 points)
322. Fiona T - 34:28 (182 points)
327. Chris Marshall - 34:46 (91 points)

Some guy called Graham Lincoln took part. I wonder if Dave Doddington Hall was at the Lincoln parkrun. Anyway, as this was the first event of the year, the points table is the same as above, so I'm not going put it again. As well as being an automatic PB for Chris Marshall, this was also a new PB for Suzy Turner and Bradley Horrocks, so I'll need to do another update soon!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Jonathan Wynn » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:24 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:56 pm
Saturday 25th January saw a record 10 Countdowners take part in the inaugural Doddington Hall parkrun before COLIN. Chris Marshall also took part in his first ever parkrun! And so here are the results out of 396 runners:

9. Gevin Chapwell - 18:28 (909 points)
12. Tim Down - 18:50 (818 points)
52. Mike Springett - 22:37 (727 points)
150. Dave Ryan - 26:33 (636 points)
187. Zubair Patel - 27:41 (545 points)
199. Callum Todd - 28:09 (455 points)
209. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33 (364 points)
217. Suzy Turner - 28:51 (273 points)
322. Fiona T - 34:28 (182 points)
327. Chris Marshall - 34:46 (91 points)

Some guy called Graham Lincoln took part. I wonder if Dave Doddington Hall was at the Lincoln parkrun. Anyway, as this was the first event of the year, the points table is the same as above, so I'm not going put it again. As well as being an automatic PB for Chris Marshall, this was also a new PB for Suzy Turner and Bradley Horrocks, so I'll need to do another update soon!
My riverside parkrun appears to be missing from the table?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:46 pm

How strange!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:32 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:56 pm
Saturday 25th January saw a record 10 Countdowners take part in the inaugural Doddington Hall parkrun before COLIN. Chris Marshall also took part in his first ever parkrun! And so here are the results out of 396 runners:

9. Gevin Chapwell - 18:28 (909 points)
12. Tim Down - 18:50 (818 points)
52. Mike Springett - 22:37 (727 points)
150. Dave Ryan - 26:33 (636 points)
187. Zubair Patel - 27:41 (545 points)
199. Callum Todd - 28:09 (455 points)
209. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33 (364 points)
217. Suzy Turner - 28:51 (273 points)
322. Fiona T - 34:28 (182 points)
327. Chris Marshall - 34:46 (91 points)

Some guy called Graham Lincoln took part. I wonder if Dave Doddington Hall was at the Lincoln parkrun. Anyway, as this was the first event of the year, the points table is the same as above, so I'm not going put it again. As well as being an automatic PB for Chris Marshall, this was also a new PB for Suzy Turner and Bradley Horrocks, so I'll need to do another update soon!

And for comparison, the 'age graded' scores, which are (in my opinion) a better measure of relative performance between different genders and ages -

Tim 74.69%
Toby 74.46%
Suzy 57.42%
Mike 57.04%
Dave 56.94%
Fiona 49.23%
Zubair 47.62%
Callum 45.83%
Bradley 45.18%
Chris 38.40%
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:15 pm

OK, as a compromise maybe we can have both championships running alongside each other!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:30 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:15 pm
OK, as a compromise maybe we can have both championships running alongside each other!
:) I'm not that bothered (honestly!)
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:54 pm

Who did the parkrun in Manchester? Was it just you Fiona?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:01 pm

Just me and 800 odd other people :)

If there were any other countdowners there, I didn't spot them.

https://www.parkrun.org.uk/heaton/resul ... Number=492

It was a nice course - tarmacked and wide paths. Recommended.
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:21 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:39 pm
Is your local run the Frimley Lodge parkrun? So do you know Jon Corby?
You will be pleased to hear that Jon and I are now acquainted!

He scanned my barcode and said "hello" and we had a brief conversation about how awesome Countdown is :)
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:52 pm

Just Fiona T (of the CO-eventers) took part in the Heaton parkrun on 15th February before the Manchester tournament. The results out of a whopping 801 runners:

689. Fiona T - 36:12 (500 points)

And the points table:

1. Gevin Chapwell - 909
2. Tim Down - 818
3. Mike Springett - 727
4. Fiona T - 682
5. Dave Ryan - 636
6. Zubair Patel - 545
7. Callum Todd - 455
8. Bradley Horrocks - 364
9. Suzy Turner - 273
10. Chris Marshall - 91
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:56 pm
Saturday 25th January saw a record 10 Countdowners take part in the inaugural Doddington Hall parkrun before COLIN. Chris Marshall also took part in his first ever parkrun! And so here are the results out of 396 runners:

9. Gevin Chapwell - 18:28 (909 points)
12. Tim Down - 18:50 (818 points)
52. Mike Springett - 22:37 (727 points)
150. Dave Ryan - 26:33 (636 points)
187. Zubair Patel - 27:41 (545 points)
199. Callum Todd - 28:09 (455 points)
209. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33 (364 points)
217. Suzy Turner - 28:51 (273 points)
322. Fiona T - 34:28 (182 points)
327. Chris Marshall - 34:46 (91 points)

Some guy called Graham Lincoln took part. I wonder if Dave Doddington Hall was at the Lincoln parkrun. Anyway, as this was the first event of the year, the points table is the same as above, so I'm not going put it again. As well as being an automatic PB for Chris Marshall, this was also a new PB for Suzy Turner and Bradley Horrocks, so I'll need to do another update soon!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:09 pm

A new update to the PB list has been done. Congratulations to Jon Elmer, Matthew Tassier, Gerry Tynan and Suzy Turner for all setting a new PB since the last update. Congratulations also to Chris Marshall for becoming a new entry on the list and to Bradley Horrocks for entering the list properly with a time that can be properly attributed to him!
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:39 pm
Right, I'm going to put up a ranking list of Countdown/Apterous parkrunners. I'll check it every so often to see if anyone's beaten their PB, and if anyone is really insistent that they don't want to be on the list, then I can remove their name. And if I've forgotten anyone, let me know and I can add them. This list is unlikely to be anywhere near exhaustive.

1. John Ashcroft - 15:15
2. Oliver Garner - 15:54
3. Jonathan Rawlinson - 17:24
4. Tim Down - 17:45
5. Matt Bayfield - 17:56
6. Gevin Chapwell - 18:09
7. Tim Springett - 18:32
8. James Bradley - 19:04
9. James Laverty - 19:21
10. Giles Hutchings - 19:48
11. Andy Noden - 20:06
12. Conrad Teixeira - 20:07
13. Adam Gillard - 20:18
14. Tom Hargreaves - 20:20
15. Dave Nicholson - 20:27
16. Michael Springett - 20:36
17. Ryan Taylor - 20:39
18. Adam Curran - 21:14
19. Jon Elmer - 21:30
20. Kirk Bevins - 21:58
=. Jon Corby - 21:58
22. Ian Volante - 22:01
23. David Williams - 22:38
24. Richard Brittain - 22:55
25. David Hilton - 23:07
26. Matthew Tassier - 23:31
27. James Wilson - 23:38
28. Jon O'Neill - 24:10
29. Jonathan Wynn - 24:39
30. Stephen Read - 24:43
31. Dave Ryan - 24:48
32. Zubair Patel - 24:56
33. Rose Boyle - 25:33
34. Tom Feilding - 26:16
35. Lauren Hamer - 26:30
36. Callum Todd - 27:36
37. Tom Chafer-Cook - 28:11
38. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33
39. Gerry Tynan - 28:43
40. Fiona T - 28:47
41. Suzy Turner - 28:51
42. Paul Talmey - 30:22
43. Eddy Byrne - 31:04
44. Chris Marshall - 34:46
45. Rachel Perkins - 36:40
46. Jack Worsley - 36:53
47. Noel Pereira - 44:14

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:09 pm

Fiona T wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:21 am
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:39 pm
Is your local run the Frimley Lodge parkrun? So do you know Jon Corby?
You will be pleased to hear that Jon and I are now acquainted!

He scanned my barcode and said "hello" and we had a brief conversation about how awesome Countdown is :)
This is excellent news!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon May 18, 2020 11:41 am

CO:LON was supposed to take place on Saturday two days ago, and I'd been considering doing the Victoria Dock parkrun, which is said to be the fastest in the country. Instead I had to do my "virtual parkrun" on my measured 5k course on the dirt track that is the Flitch Way near where I live. And I got 18:13. My parkrun PB is 18:09 (although I should have got around 18:00 that time at Hackney Marshes when I went the wrong way). I almost certainly would have got a new PB had I run at a fast parkrun on Saturday, and very likely would have gone under 18 minutes. I just have to try and keep hold of this form for when lockdown ends in 2029!

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Matt Morrison » Tue May 19, 2020 8:56 pm

did you just watch the video of yourself doing the run before? if so how are you going to improve your own time?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue May 19, 2020 9:06 pm

People just call it a virtual parkrun if they do a 5k run on a Saturday without there being a parkrun, if that's what you're referring to.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Tue May 19, 2020 10:40 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 11:41 am
CO:LON was supposed to take place on Saturday two days ago, and I'd been considering doing the Victoria Dock parkrun, which is said to be the fastest in the country. Instead I had to do my "virtual parkrun" on my measured 5k course on the dirt track that is the Flitch Way near where I live. And I got 18:13. My parkrun PB is 18:09 (although I should have got around 18:00 that time at Hackney Marshes when I went the wrong way). I almost certainly would have got a new PB had I run at a fast parkrun on Saturday, and very likely would have gone under 18 minutes. I just have to try and keep hold of this form for when lockdown ends in 2029!
Well done. A few of us are still dragging our sorry arses round a lonely Saturday 5k. Missing it. A lot.
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:15 am

I've added Paul Nixon to the list, since he is on Apterous and took part in Zoomdown. He slots in in 6th place, just behind me!
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:39 pm
Right, I'm going to put up a ranking list of Countdown/Apterous parkrunners. I'll check it every so often to see if anyone's beaten their PB, and if anyone is really insistent that they don't want to be on the list, then I can remove their name. And if I've forgotten anyone, let me know and I can add them. This list is unlikely to be anywhere near exhaustive.

1. John Ashcroft - 15:15
2. Oliver Garner - 15:54
3. Jonathan Rawlinson - 17:24
4. Tim Down - 17:45
5. Matt Bayfield - 17:56
6. Gevin Chapwell - 18:09
7. Paul Nixon 18:10
8. Tim Springett - 18:32
9. James Bradley - 19:04
10. James Laverty - 19:21
11. Giles Hutchings - 19:48
12. Andy Noden - 20:06
13. Conrad Teixeira - 20:07
14. Adam Gillard - 20:18
15. Tom Hargreaves - 20:20
16. Dave Nicholson - 20:27
17. Michael Springett - 20:36
18. Ryan Taylor - 20:39
19. Adam Curran - 21:14
20. Jon Elmer - 21:30
21. Kirk Bevins - 21:58
=. Jon Corby - 21:58
23. Ian Volante - 22:01
24. David Williams - 22:38
25. Richard Brittain - 22:55
26. David Hilton - 23:07
27. Matthew Tassier - 23:31
28. James Wilson - 23:38
29. Jon O'Neill - 24:10
30. Jonathan Wynn - 24:39
31. Stephen Read - 24:43
32. Dave Ryan - 24:48
33. Zubair Patel - 24:56
34. Rose Boyle - 25:33
35. Tom Feilding - 26:16
36. Lauren Hamer - 26:30
37. Callum Todd - 27:36
38. Tom Chafer-Cook - 28:11
39. Bradley Horrocks - 28:33
40. Gerry Tynan - 28:43
41. Fiona T - 28:47
42. Suzy Turner - 28:51
43. Paul Talmey - 30:22
44. Eddy Byrne - 31:04
45. Chris Marshall - 34:46
46. Rachel Perkins - 36:40
47. Jack Worsley - 36:53
48. Noel Pereira - 44:14

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:17 am

In other news, in the absence of parkrun, you can still submit times each week and they get registered as (not)parkruns. And the last couple of weeks, my MP James Cleverly has registered times for my local parkrun. Also we're now following each other on Strava.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Callum Todd » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:51 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:17 am
In other news, in the absence of parkrun, you can still submit times each week and they get registered as (not)parkruns. And the last couple of weeks, my MP James Cleverly has registered times for my local parkrun. Also we're now following each other on Strava.
How does one do this?

And are you counting James Cleverly's (not)parkruns as a fulfillment of his promise to run in a parkrun?
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:57 am

Callum Todd wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:51 am
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:17 am
In other news, in the absence of parkrun, you can still submit times each week and they get registered as (not)parkruns. And the last couple of weeks, my MP James Cleverly has registered times for my local parkrun. Also we're now following each other on Strava.
How does one do this?

And are you counting James Cleverly's (not)parkruns as a fulfillment of his promise to run in a parkrun?
Sign in to your parkrun account and you can just type in your time. At the same time you can check if you are registered to Rayne Runners.

And no - he has to come to a proper parkrun.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:54 am

As many of you will be aware, parkrun recently announced their intention to come back in England by the end of October. The announcement was made this recent news about gatherings of more than six people. However, it seems that there was a limit of 30 anyway, and parkruns are generally bigger than that, so it might not make any difference. Presumably they'd be going for some sort of exemption under the organised team sports category, if they can argue that it is that.

The other thing is that this is just England:
Unfortunately, as things stand, and due to current restrictions across Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, we are not able to commit to the same timeline across the other Home Nations.
So this obviously raises the question of whether it is responsible to do this, or whether it's just possible because England have more lax rules than Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland. And they won't be able to run the events unless they get enough volunteers and run directors, so they need enough of the parkrun community on board with this as well.

What do you think?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:40 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:54 am
As many of you will be aware, parkrun recently announced their intention to come back in England by the end of October. The announcement was made this recent news about gatherings of more than six people. However, it seems that there was a limit of 30 anyway, and parkruns are generally bigger than that, so it might not make any difference. Presumably they'd be going for some sort of exemption under the organised team sports category, if they can argue that it is that.

The other thing is that this is just England:
Unfortunately, as things stand, and due to current restrictions across Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, we are not able to commit to the same timeline across the other Home Nations.
So this obviously raises the question of whether it is responsible to do this, or whether it's just possible because England have more lax rules than Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland. And they won't be able to run the events unless they get enough volunteers and run directors, so they need enough of the parkrun community on board with this as well.

What do you think?
To me the main problem is the start. Lots of people crowded closely together for several minutes, albeit outdoors.

I've volunteered to tail walk when we go back so that I can hang back and see how it all pans out. I'll probs wear a mask too.

As well as people spitting (which I understand has been 'banned') there is generally a lot more snot and sweat about - don't know how much of a problem that is. There are also one or two casualties who trip/fall/feel faint etc every week - how do you help those people while maintaining social distance?

In short, I'm glad it's back, but personally will be proceeding with caution.
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:53 pm

One of our local parkruns (Rushmoor) has announced they will not be restarting in October.

https://www.facebook.com/Rushmoorparkru ... 5905825969

Given that all our local parkrus are pretty busy, this would only put more pressure on the others. I honestly can't see any of them opening. :(
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:10 pm

Fiona T wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:53 pm
One of our local parkruns (Rushmoor) has announced they will not be restarting in October.

https://www.facebook.com/Rushmoorparkru ... 5905825969

Given that all our local parkrus are pretty busy, this would only put more pressure on the others. I honestly can't see any of them opening. :(
Yeah, it could put pressure on other nearby parkruns. But having said that, not everyone who does parkruns is as obsessed as you or I might be, so you wouldn't get everyone wanting to travel to another one (depending on how close these parkruns are to each other). I'm in a couple of parkrun stats groups on Facebook, and someone once did an analysis into what happens when a parkrun closes for a week. Apparently it doesn't cause too much of an increase in numbers at the nearby ones.

When I did CO:Birmingham one year, the main Birmingham parkrun (Cannon Hill) wasn't on that week, so I went to Perry Hall instead. Cannon Hill gets some pretty big numbers, but Perry Hall (a smaller one) certainly wasn't overwhelmed.

Also, last winter there was some really bad weather one week (flooding maybe) and a lot of the parkruns near me were cancelled. The one we found that wasn't cancelled didn't get massive numbers. But maybe the weather kept people away.

Also, maybe people are more willing to give up parkrun for the odd week, but if one parkrun is cancelled for ages they might start to look elsewhere.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by David Williams » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:29 am

There's a parkrun almost literally on my doorstep. They use a route that's similar to, but not as nice as, one I regularly do at about 8:15 every Saturday. I've never really felt it would be an improvement to go at a less convenient time, hang about for ten minutes at the start and do a less attractive route. If you add in the possibility of catching coronavirus it's even worse. Anyone can run any parkrun course any time they want in perfect safety.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Sam Cappleman-Lynes » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 am

David Williams wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:29 am
Anyone can run any parkrun course any time they want in perfect safety.
They can, but won't. The real attraction of parkrun for most people is the competitive aspect and group participation that gets them running when they wouldn't otherwise be motivated to.

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:55 pm

Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 am
David Williams wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:29 am
Anyone can run any parkrun course any time they want in perfect safety.
They can, but won't. The real attraction of parkrun for most people is the competitive aspect and group participation that gets them running when they wouldn't otherwise be motivated to.
When is this guy going to make his debut?

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Sam Cappleman-Lynes » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:59 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:55 pm
When is this guy going to make his debut?
Never heard of him.

(I think what happened is that I signed up intending to join my local one at the time but then realised I couldn't actually be bothered cycling 5 miles across town just to get to the start line)

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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by Fiona T » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:38 pm

Sam Cappleman-Lynes wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:52 am
David Williams wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:29 am
Anyone can run any parkrun course any time they want in perfect safety.
They can, but won't. The real attraction of parkrun for most people is the competitive aspect and group participation that gets them running when they wouldn't otherwise be motivated to.
Yep needing to be in a particular place at a particular time, and some much needed social interaction (I work from home even in non-Covid times) is what gets me to parkrun. And the stats/t-shirts/challenges. The running part is incidental :)
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Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

Post by David Williams » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:36 am

I'm not disputing the attraction or the benefits of parkrun. I just have my doubts about their conclusion that the benefits far outweigh the risks, and I really doubt that people will stick to the guidance. You're not going to get much social interaction if everyone sticks rigidly to social distancing. If you're in the middle of a crowd you can't really move an inch without breaking the rules. You have to stand stock still until the crowd disperses from the outside. You can get all the benefits of parkrun separately by safer methods. Viruses don't care whether what we are doing is socially beneficial, they just attack where we are weak.

I also wonder if they have considered the effect on other people. The one I have been on goes along a promenade, maybe four metres wide, shared between pedestrians and cyclists. Anyone in the parkrun may get very little exposure to other people. Anyone coming the other way will have to pass hundreds.

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