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Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:17 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Remarkably, for the new series they've managed not to change any of the rules.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:44 pm
by Matt Morrison
Did it start today? I hope Sky+ remembered it.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:59 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Matt Morrison wrote:Did it start today?
Yep. Two very good teams made it through to the head-to-head round, making for quite an entertaining tussle.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm
by Matt Morrison
The chess thing was crazy. They must have accepted "castle" too, but even then....

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:12 pm
by Ian Volante
Never heard anything from my application for this series. Maybe I'll try again.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:16 pm
by Debbi Flack
Paul and I made the selection pot, but weren't chosen for filming. Never mind, we'll apply again and hope to get another audition.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:11 pm
by James Robinson
I'm hoping to try again too, but I'm taking my mate, Steve, this time. He's actually also sent a form off for Countdown within the last 3 weeks, so you never know, he could be a late challenger for this series. ;) :) :D

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:41 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Why is it so hard to get on the show? I remember for Countdown sending off my application form, replying with an audition date, attending the audition and (on my second try :oops: ) going on the show.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:49 pm
by Michael Wallace
Kai Laddiman wrote:Why is it so hard to get on the show? I remember for Countdown sending off my application form, replying with an audition date, attending the audition and (on my second try :oops: ) going on the show.
Trying to compare it to your experience of getting on Countdown is a bit pointless (geddit?!?!!!), since a) Countdown is just one program, and ii) Countdown is fairly unusual in (apparently) being entirely down to your ability at the game, rather than ill-defined things like whether you're chatty enough or would make good TV or whatever.

Also, I'd imagine a show like Pointles, where you can actually win something, and where it's much less obvious to the viewer whether they're any good or not, has a much higher applicant to places ratio (but obviously that's just speculation).

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:34 pm
by Peter Mabey
Matt Morrison wrote:The chess thing was crazy. They must have accepted "castle" too, but even then....
I don't thimk Richard had "castle" on his list :?

It would have given more scope if fairy pieces:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_chess_piece
had been included (or Chinese ones), but I suppose only a few of their 100 people would have been able to name any :?:

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:09 pm
by Soph K
It's a little bit boring, Pointless. IT IS pointless. Kinda.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:46 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Roxx and Myth were excellent contestants - reminded me a bit of Raccoon and CF. My favourite quip of theirs was when they chose Words as the category for the final because, as (I think) Myth said, "I use words all the time, in conversation."

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:12 pm
by Michael Wallace
Yeah, Roxx and Myth were awesome. I particularly enjoyed the juxtaposition of mad rockers and a teatime quiz show.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:07 am
by Liam Tiernan
Michael Wallace wrote:Yeah, Roxx and Myth were awesome. I particularly enjoyed the juxtaposition of mad rockers and a teatime quiz show.
Mad rockers? Roxx turned out to be a Science teacher, ffs.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:17 am
by Dinos Sfyris
Yeah was definitely rooting for Roxx and Myth today, although the two old ladies were unlucky the way the first picks fell in the head to head as the Scrabble question could have gone either way.

Nice to see a words round for the final. Was very surprised to see superset as a pointless answer. It was the first one that sprang into my mind. Also Boneset is a nice word.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:32 am
by Peter Mabey
Same here - other words that I thought of (OK for Scrabble, haven't checked OED) were DOWSET (cooked sheep testicle) and SOMERSET (alternative spelling of somersault) :D

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:36 pm
by Joseph Krol
ZXQJK is the most epic word ever. Thought of BASSET as in basset hound but am not sure. Also got superset, subset, overset, upset, outset, cosset, and a few others.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:05 pm
by Debbi Flack
Not forgetting one of RW's favourites - Moonset. Great word

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:22 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Peter Mabey wrote:other words that I thought of (OK for Scrabble, haven't checked OED) were DOWSET (cooked sheep testicle) and SOMERSET (alternative spelling of somersault) :D
Neither would have been allowed. :geek:
Joseph Krol wrote:Thought of BASSET as in basset hound but am not sure.
I'd have thought that was capitalised but it turns out it isn't so it would have been allowed.

Interestingly, a word that no one has so far suggested here is MARMOSET and yet HWMBO and I both said it simultaneously when the question came up.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:41 pm
by Mark James
Phil Reynolds wrote:Interestingly, a word that no one has so far suggested here is MARMOSET and yet HWMBO and I both said it simultaneously when the question came up.
I thought of MARMOSET immediately too. Does this mean I'm gay? Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:24 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Mark James wrote:I thought of MARMOSET immediately too. Does this mean I'm gay?
If you haven't made up your own mind on that one by the age of 29 then I can't help you I'm afraid. Was you second choice CLOSET by any chance?

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:38 pm
by Michael Wallace
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Peter Mabey wrote:other words that I thought of (OK for Scrabble, haven't checked OED) were DOWSET (cooked sheep testicle) and SOMERSET (alternative spelling of somersault) :D
Neither would have been allowed. :geek:
Joseph Krol wrote:Thought of BASSET as in basset hound but am not sure.
I'd have thought that was capitalised but it turns out it isn't so it would have been allowed.
I know I could go back and check, but it's presumably less effort to ask you what dictionary they said it was. Was it the OED? (And with that do you not have to specify the version or whatever, like ODE2r?)

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:04 pm
by Joseph Krol
I think they said Oxford English Dictionary, but the dictionary used is questionable, as there are likely more than 60 obscure to very obscure words with a common suffix like -set. Plus all the mentioned words appear in the ODE3.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:04 pm
by Joseph Krol
I think they said Oxford English Dictionary, but the dictionary used is questionable, as there are likely more than 60 obscure to very obscure words with a common suffix like -set. Plus all the mentioned words appear in the ODE3.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:05 pm
by Rhys Benjamin
Don't need to post it twice!
Don't need to post it twice!

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:10 pm
by Liam Tiernan
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Mark James wrote:I thought of MARMOSET immediately too. Does this mean I'm gay?
If you haven't made up your own mind on that one by the age of 29 then I can't help you I'm afraid. Was you second choice CLOSET by any chance?
**** LIKE****

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:14 pm
by Michael Wallace
Joseph Krol wrote:I think they said Oxford English Dictionary, but the dictionary used is questionable, as there are likely more than 60 obscure to very obscure words with a common suffix like -set. Plus all the mentioned words appear in the ODE3.
UNDERSET (one of the pointlesses) isn't, though.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:32 pm
by Peter Mabey
I've now run a search of the online OED, which gives 185 entries - however, that includes hyphenated ones, and also counts the same word several times if it occurs with more than one meaning, so there could well be only about half that many distinct ones.

BTW, looking at the definitions there shows that I got the meaning of DOWSET rather confused - an animal's testicles are DOWSETS, but in cookery a DOWSET was something like a custard. (Both derive from douce, sweet) :oops:

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:57 pm
by Matt Morrison
MARMOSET was Heather's first. Mine was PERCOSET which isn't a popular enough brand to have become word yet. Shame.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:27 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Peter Mabey wrote:other words that I thought of (OK for Scrabble, haven't checked OED) were DOWSET (cooked sheep testicle) and SOMERSET (alternative spelling of somersault) :D
Neither would have been allowed. :geek:
Sorry Peter, brain failure. :oops: I heard Richard say "Oxford English Dictionary" and just automatically went into Countdown mode and assumed that meant ODE3r. If there were 60 pointless answers then I guess they meant the full OED.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:06 pm
by Mark James
Did Michael Jackson not have a posthumous number 1?

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:11 pm
by Ian Volante
Mark James wrote:Did Michael Jackson not have a posthumous number 1?
Not yet. Broke the record for the most simultaneous songs on the chart though.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:46 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Ian Volante wrote:
Mark James wrote:Did Michael Jackson not have a posthumous number 1?
Not yet. Broke the record for the most simultaneous songs on the chart though.
I'm pretty sure Man in the Mirror was Number 1 in the iTunes chart for a while, but I'm guessing that's not the official chart.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:57 pm
by Matt Morrison
Absolutely raped -OUD. Distinct possibility we would have got all 3 pointless.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:12 pm
by Phil Reynolds
When I saw that this thread had been bumped today I assumed that c4cers must have been posting in their dozens about the weird bit at the end where Richard rounded off a list of pointless answers with "...and UNDERCLOUD", which had just been declared a wrong answer. Maxine even nodded and then looked at Richard all like WTF?

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:30 pm
by Craig Beevers
Phil Reynolds wrote:When I saw that this thread had been bumped today I assumed that c4cers must have been posting in their dozens about the weird bit at the end where Richard rounded off a list of pointless answers with "...and UNDERCLOUD", which had just been declared a wrong answer. Maxine even nodded and then looked at Richard all like WTF?
Sounded very much like THUNDERCLOUD to me.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:12 pm
by Matt Morrison
Bit of both of you. Sounded very much like UNDERCLOUD but I never even thought twice and assumed without fear it was THUNDERCLOUD.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:35 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Craig Beevers wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:Richard rounded off a list of pointless answers with "...and UNDERCLOUD", which had just been declared a wrong answer.
Sounded very much like THUNDERCLOUD to me.
My bad. :oops:

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 1:58 pm
by Craig Beevers
Hmm a final question on horse racing. Don't think it gets any more pointless than that.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:03 pm
by Michael Wallace
Craig Beevers wrote:Hmm a final question on horse racing. Don't think it gets any more pointless than that.
Oh I dunno, I can think of some things.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:53 pm
by Craig Beevers
Virtually all the pointless answers were recent winners as well. Seemed a bit daft really apart from it being about a non-sport.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:20 pm
by Charlie Reams
Michael Wallace wrote:
Craig Beevers wrote:Hmm a final question on horse racing. Don't think it gets any more pointless than that.
Oh I dunno, I can think of some things.
lol.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:43 pm
by Michael Wallace
So round one today was 'countries ending in N', and Richard said there were 18 answers. The sporcle quiz on it has 24, but one of them is Taiwan (but it also doesn't have Russian Federation, which was correct). As far as I can tell from a quick glance, the rest are all fine according to the UN's website, so we can only conclude this is yet another pointles scandal :o

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:50 pm
by Ryan Taylor
Michael Wallace wrote:So round one today was 'countries ending in N', and Richard said there were 18 answers. The sporcle quiz on it has 24, but one of them is Taiwan (but it also doesn't have Russian Federation, which was correct). As far as I can tell from a quick glance, the rest are all fine according to the UN's website, so we can only conclude this is yet another pointles scandal :o
Are you called 'Oxbridge' on sporcle?

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:31 pm
by Michael Wallace
Ryan Taylor wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:So round one today was 'countries ending in N', and Richard said there were 18 answers. The sporcle quiz on it has 24, but one of them is Taiwan (but it also doesn't have Russian Federation, which was correct). As far as I can tell from a quick glance, the rest are all fine according to the UN's website, so we can only conclude this is yet another pointles scandal :o
Are you called 'Oxbridge' on sporcle?
Nope. I do have a sporcle name but I can't remember what it is.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:08 pm
by James Robinson
Speaking of Pointless, me and my mate Steve have got an audition tomorrow morning for the show.

If successful, we'll be recording next month. ;) :) :D :mrgreen: 8-)

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:21 pm
by Michael Wallace
James Robinson wrote:Speaking of Pointless, me and my mate Steve have got an audition tomorrow morning for the show.
Good luck, James, etc.

Are you going to try a different plan of attack to last time?

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:39 pm
by James Robinson
Michael Wallace wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Speaking of Pointless, me and my mate Steve have got an audition tomorrow morning for the show.
Good luck, James, etc.

Are you going to try a different plan of attack to last time?
Well, I've changed my co-contestant, so that's a start. :idea:

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:13 am
by Charlie Reams
James, I think the key to getting on Pointless is to focus on trying to be interesting/kooky/fun/interactive in some way and don't bother too much about getting the questions right.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:19 pm
by Michael Wallace
James Robinson wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:
James Robinson wrote:Speaking of Pointless, me and my mate Steve have got an audition tomorrow morning for the show.
Good luck, James, etc.

Are you going to try a different plan of attack to last time?
Well, I've changed my co-contestant, so that's a start. :idea:
How did it go :?:

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:29 pm
by James Robinson
Michael Wallace wrote:How did it go :?:
I think me and Steve did well with the questions, and I definitely think there was a lot more interaction between me and him, then when I went with my sister the last time. I think they quite enjoyed the interesting mix of a pairing that we were too, which is nice. :)

1st in the questions, again, 11 points this time. Even had a words question too. :lol: The pair that came 2nd even asked us for a pic with them, cos they thought we were certs to go on, which was nice. :)

There was quite an interesting mix this time. There was certainly no rubbish pair and everyone came across as a good pair who'd do good on the show. 4 out of 6 (including us) were asked to stay behind, and I think we defo came across much better this time.

Well, we'll know within 2 weeks if we're on the shortlist, so here's hoping....... this time. :D

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:20 pm
by Craig Beevers
Nice. Make sure you don't pick foreign politics (or whatever it was today) in the final - unless you've studied it obviously. Seem to be a mix of really horrible questions then the odd one which I think a lot of people on here would get a pointless on (elements ending in -IUM, word ending in -OUD).

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:37 pm
by Mark James
Anyone else spot the continuity error on today's show. While Alexander was asking the first guy what volcano he was gonna pick you could see 22 on both the screen behind and the contestant's podium. My mam, who hadn't spotted this, thinks she's psychic so I let on that it must run in the family and confidently predicted he would go for Krakatoa and that it would score 22. Or maybe there was no continuity error and I genuinely did have a psychic vision of the result.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:47 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Mark James wrote:Anyone else spot the continuity error on today's show. While Alexander was asking the first guy what volcano he was gonna pick you could see 22 on both the screen behind and the contestant's podium.
Wow. I didn't notice this at all when I watched it earlier but just had another look and once you know it's there it seems so unbelievably obvious. I'm guessing they had to do an immediate retake for some reason and forgot to reset the graphics.

One thing I notice a lot now having been on the last series is how often Alexander says, "Remember, we're looking for the names of volcanoes" (or whatever). When we were there, if he didn't say this during the round itself, they recorded him saying it a couple of times afterwards and edited it in. No idea why, unless maybe it's for the benefit of viewers who switch on during the round and are too thick to work out what the question is.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:58 pm
by Michael Wallace
Phil Reynolds wrote:No idea why, unless maybe it's for the benefit of viewers who switch on during the round and are too thick to work out what the question is.
Given how often they explain the rules and what the topic of the round is etc. etc. I think it's just that they don't expect much of their audience. I'd quite like someone to make a shortened version that cuts out all the explanations and repetitions (I mean, some of the banter is good, but I don't need to have Richard explaining what "countries ending in N" means).

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:09 pm
by Matt Morrison
Yeah the whole "a wrong answer is worth 100 points" explained EVERY SINGLE ROUND is a reet drag.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:21 pm
by Mark James
Michael Wallace wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:No idea why, unless maybe it's for the benefit of viewers who switch on during the round and are too thick to work out what the question is.
Given how often they explain the rules and what the topic of the round is etc. etc. I think it's just that they don't expect much of their audience. I'd quite like someone to make a shortened version that cuts out all the explanations and repetitions (I mean, some of the banter is good, but I don't need to have Richard explaining what "countries ending in N" means).
Agreed. It's ridiculous that the head to head is best of three rather than first to three, like in the first series, when they could easily make time for it. Also, there should be an individual prize for getting a pointless answer as well as adding to the jackpot.
Finally, despite the show being called Pointless there should be more reward for obscure knowledge that isn't quite pointless. In the final round if the points total of your three answers is less than ten, I think you should still win. Even say a fraction of the jackpot.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:15 am
by Matt Morrison
Mark James wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:No idea why, unless maybe it's for the benefit of viewers who switch on during the round and are too thick to work out what the question is.
Given how often they explain the rules and what the topic of the round is etc. etc. I think it's just that they don't expect much of their audience. I'd quite like someone to make a shortened version that cuts out all the explanations and repetitions (I mean, some of the banter is good, but I don't need to have Richard explaining what "countries ending in N" means).
Agreed. It's ridiculous that the head to head is best of three rather than first to three, like in the first series, when they could easily make time for it. Also, there should be an individual prize for getting a pointless answer as well as adding to the jackpot.
Finally, despite the show being called Pointless there should be more reward for obscure knowledge that isn't quite pointless. In the final round if the points total of your three answers is less than ten, I think you should still win. Even say a fraction of the jackpot.
I see where you're coming from, all your suggestions would just further complicate the format of the game and are made in the midst of a discussion about how they already have to appeal to the lowest common denominator when explaining all the very obvious rules over and over again. You'd never make a game show producer.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:45 pm
by Mark James
Matt Morrison wrote:
Mark James wrote: Agreed. It's ridiculous that the head to head is best of three rather than first to three, like in the first series, when they could easily make time for it. Also, there should be an individual prize for getting a pointless answer as well as adding to the jackpot.
Finally, despite the show being called Pointless there should be more reward for obscure knowledge that isn't quite pointless. In the final round if the points total of your three answers is less than ten, I think you should still win. Even say a fraction of the jackpot.
I see where you're coming from, all your suggestions would just further complicate the format of the game and are made in the midst of a discussion about how they already have to appeal to the lowest common denominator when explaining all the very obvious rules over and over again. You'd never make a game show producer.
All of my suggestions? Maybe the last one is a bit complicated but who can't understand you get a personal prize for getting a pointless answer. Family Fortunes had random personal prizes for particular answers and you don't get more lowest common denominator than Family bloody Fortunes. As for me not being a good game show producer I came up with the idea for Poker Face before Ant 'n' Dec so there.

Re: Pointless Series 4

Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:20 am
by James Robinson
James Robinson wrote:Well, we'll know within 2 weeks if we're on the shortlist, so here's hoping....... this time. :D
Well, we've made it onto the SHORTLIST!!! ;) :) :D :mrgreen: 8-)

So, a busy month ahead for me then, possibly.....

Just have to wait and see now, I guess. :roll: