Re: Music
Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:51 am
By the way, I really like music
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Jon Corby wrote:Satan has taken music and he has counterfeited it, convoluted it, twisted it, exploited it and now he's using it to hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer, hammer a message into the minds and the lifestyles of this generation.
I find it quite interesting, I've never actually met anyone who doesn't like music before; sure, I know people who don't like much music, but maybe they're just very selective and elitist, and I know people who only like a very narrow genre of music to the exclusion of all else (but that tends to be a fashion or scene thing, rather than the music itself). But not liking music in general is a new one on me.Adam Gillard wrote:Then again, I'm thinking of 'music' here mostly in the narrow sense of the stuff that's released into the charts. People singing / playing musical instruments can be OK as long as it's not too loud. Here's the big controversial no-no though: (I think) I could live without it (sorry ABBA).
I wouldn't be surprised if I'm the only person on this forum who feels this way about music, as it seems to be an extremely rare standpoint (it is possible to like other things without liking music; I'm not a completely miserable sod). Does anyone else feel this way or even understand this viewpoint?
This makes a lot of sense to me, Brian. I can also see myself performing (singing or playing a musical instrument) rather than listening.Brian Moore wrote:I only got into jazz & big band in my thirties from playing the stuff. Still don't get most rock or pop, though the odd song sticks in my mind. I had to get over the fact that I had very abnormal tastes in music (for my peer group) early on. The compensation for the fact that I didn't 'get' the stuff that everyone else seemed to was that I had an appreciation and understanding of something most of 'everyone else' didn't.Adam Gillard wrote:I don't follow the normal culture and views that come along with it.
In truth, I really don't do much listening to recordings (or even going to concerts) these days - I'd rather be playing. One thing to consider is that the relatively recent advent of sound recording has not only changed the way we 'consume' music, but has also changed the very nature of music and how we think about it.
Out of interest, has anybody (other than yourself, and preferably somebody impartial) told you that you can sing? Cos most people like to sing, and enjoy it, and kinda think in their head that they sound somewhere between okay and really good, but the reality is they are actually pretty fucking shit at it. (I include myself in that group.) It just occurs that somebody with no musical appreciation to start with has the potential to get this even more wrong. Just hold off with X Factor/Britain's Got Talent application is all I'm saying.Adam Gillard wrote:This makes a lot of sense to me, Brian. I can also see myself performing (singing or playing a musical instrument) rather than listening.
Upload some singing and link to it here. We will tell you if you can sing or not.Jon Corby wrote:Out of interest, has anybody (other than yourself, and preferably somebody impartial) told you that you can sing? Cos most people like to sing, and enjoy it, and kinda think in their head that they sound somewhere between okay and really good, but the reality is they are actually pretty fucking shit at it. (I include myself in that group.) It just occurs that somebody with no musical appreciation to start with has the potential to get this even more wrong. Just hold off with X Factor/Britain's Got Talent application is all I'm saying.Adam Gillard wrote:This makes a lot of sense to me, Brian. I can also see myself performing (singing or playing a musical instrument) rather than listening.
Me?Jon O'Neill wrote:Upload some singing and link to it here. We will tell you if you can sing or not.Jon Corby wrote:Out of interest, has anybody (other than yourself, and preferably somebody impartial) told you that you can sing? Cos most people like to sing, and enjoy it, and kinda think in their head that they sound somewhere between okay and really good, but the reality is they are actually pretty fucking shit at it. (I include myself in that group.) It just occurs that somebody with no musical appreciation to start with has the potential to get this even more wrong. Just hold off with X Factor/Britain's Got Talent application is all I'm saying.Adam Gillard wrote:This makes a lot of sense to me, Brian. I can also see myself performing (singing or playing a musical instrument) rather than listening.
Not gonna happen . To be honest, I'm probably one of the many people who think their voice sounds good in their head (or in the shower). I never perform 'singing' to anyone because I'm probably not that good and it's an embarrassing thing to have to do, in my mind. Basically it's people at synagogue (relatively impartial, including some people I don't know who have come up to me after services) who decided I have a good voice (this doesn't mean I'd be a good singing 'performer' by any means) and I lead some of the services that require a certain level of cantorial skill on the most prestigious occasions of the year.Jon O'Neill wrote:Upload some singing and link to it here. We will tell you if you can sing or not.Jon Corby wrote:Out of interest, has anybody (other than yourself, and preferably somebody impartial) told you that you can sing? Cos most people like to sing, and enjoy it, and kinda think in their head that they sound somewhere between okay and really good, but the reality is they are actually pretty fucking shit at it. (I include myself in that group.) It just occurs that somebody with no musical appreciation to start with has the potential to get this even more wrong. Just hold off with X Factor/Britain's Got Talent application is all I'm saying.Adam Gillard wrote:This makes a lot of sense to me, Brian. I can also see myself performing (singing or playing a musical instrument) rather than listening.
Adam Gillard wrote:they randomly started singing Nessun Dorma in the "choir practice" (a jokey thing again) and people were blown away and let me finish singing it solo
39 Steps?Jon O'Neill wrote:Adam Gillard wrote:they randomly started singing Nessun Dorma in the "choir practice" (a jokey thing again) and people were blown away and let me finish singing it solo
Great song, this album has just gone on my phone and I like it.Mark James wrote:Just saw this video on one of the music channels. I like it.
Yes, I was amazed when I found out that it was no. 1 in the charts the other week (still is, I think), but then those bastions of cool at Radio 2 have been all over it for the last month or so, which probably helped. The last time I can remember the no. 1 being so out of step with everything else in the charts was probably when White Town got there with 'Your Woman' and that must be fifteen years ago at least. So yeah, I approve (I know, Gotye and Kimbra are going to be thrilled when they hear).Ian Volante wrote:Oddly catchy song, nice to see it doing well in the charts. Shame about the nursery rhyme element though.
It's number 1? Holy shit. I don't pay attention to the charts at all. Well done everybody. Although it was released as a single last July. You took your time. Better late than never I suppose.JimBentley wrote:Yes, I was amazed when I found out that it was no. 1 in the charts the other week (still is, I think), but then those bastions of cool at Radio 2 have been all over it for the last month or so, which probably helped. The last time I can remember the no. 1 being so out of step with everything else in the charts was probably when White Town got there with 'Your Woman' and that must be fifteen years ago at least. So yeah, I approve (I know, Gotye and Kimbra are going to be thrilled when they hear).Ian Volante wrote:Oddly catchy song, nice to see it doing well in the charts. Shame about the nursery rhyme element though.
Christmas number one is a special case in itself. As for Your Woman, doesn't Mark Radcliffe take credit for that? 6 Music have been playing Gotye a lot too actually, a rare song that crosses over between their playlists.Mark James wrote:It's number 1? Holy shit. I don't pay attention to the charts at all. Well done everybody. Although it was released as a single last July. You took your time. Better late than never I suppose.JimBentley wrote:Yes, I was amazed when I found out that it was no. 1 in the charts the other week (still is, I think), but then those bastions of cool at Radio 2 have been all over it for the last month or so, which probably helped. The last time I can remember the no. 1 being so out of step with everything else in the charts was probably when White Town got there with 'Your Woman' and that must be fifteen years ago at least. So yeah, I approve (I know, Gotye and Kimbra are going to be thrilled when they hear).Ian Volante wrote:Oddly catchy song, nice to see it doing well in the charts. Shame about the nursery rhyme element though.
And what about Gary Jules "Mad World" Jim. I'd say that fits the bill for what you're talking about.
I guess. But it certainly doesn't sound like a Christmas song or even the kind of novelty song that sometimes makes the Christmas number one spot like Mr Blobby.Ian Volante wrote: Christmas number one is a special case in itself. As for Your Woman, doesn't Mark Radcliffe take credit for that? 6 Music have been playing Gotye a lot too actually, a rare song that crosses over between their playlists.
That's a good call, I'd forgotten about that, but yeah, it was a similarly out of kilter no. 1. Did that Nizlopi thing (also around Xmas few years back) reach no. 1? That would also be in the same ballpark.Mark James wrote:And what about Gary Jules "Mad World" Jim. I'd say that fits the bill for what you're talking about.
I got his signature on a postcard when I bumped into him round the back of the Radio 1 Beach Party in Bournemouth in 19-whatever. Absolutely no one in the world apart from you has ever heard of him.Matt Bayfield wrote:Tony di Bart
Yeah, and also that one called di Bart Man where he put on that squeaky voice.Matt Bayfield wrote:And if we're totting up unlikely number one singles, I'm tossing in The Real Thing by Tony di Bart.
Get your coat, Reynolds.Phil Reynolds wrote:Yeah, and also that one called di Bart Man where he put on that squeaky voice.Matt Bayfield wrote:And if we're totting up unlikely number one singles, I'm tossing in The Real Thing by Tony di Bart.
"...you've pulled" ?Ian Volante wrote:Get your coat, Reynolds.
I wouldn't be so presumptuousJon Corby wrote:"...you've pulled" ?Ian Volante wrote:Get your coat, Reynolds.
Really Matt? I remember it as nothing more than a slightly above average house tune, nothing out of the ordinary at all. Unless my memory's playing tricks. Which it probably is.Matt Bayfield wrote:And if we're totting up unlikely number one singles, I'm tossing in The Real Thing by Tony di Bart.
Jim meant more that the number ones were unlikely in the sense that they sounded like nothing else that was going on in the charts though, not just that they were an unlikely number one.Matt Bayfield wrote:Jim, that's precisely why I've always thought it was an unlikely #1. There were plenty of dance records topping the charts around that time, but for one as spectacularly average as The Real Thing to climb to the top... well, it was huge surprise to me when the chart was counted down on Radio 1.
Too controversial.Matt Morrison wrote:Adam, what about "Jermain Defoe, he's a yiddo" ?
Yeah actually, the Star Wars theme is good when the film's on. I think I just don't like stuff on the radio.Jennifer Steadman wrote:What about, say, the Star Wars theme tune? Does the opening minute or so not fill you with joy? (I'm guessing the answer'll be no, but it's so glorious and iconic, etc.)Adam Gillard wrote:It's still annoying most of the time. The rest of the time it's so samey that it's cringeworthy (e.g. the music for a love scene or a farewell scene). Sometimes it's cool, but I wouldn't like the music on its own (i.e., if there weren't a similarly cool action sequence going on in the foreground).Jennifer Steadman wrote:Out of interest, what do you think of music in films - do you find it annoying/not conducive for adding to the mood of a scene?
Incidentally, the phrase 'music for a love scene' makes me think of those diabolical Eurotrash soundtracks for those late night Movies4Men films. Never a good thing to think of. Or listen to. Or watch.
Funny you should say that, Ed Sheeran actually counts Nizlopi (as well as Damian Rice) as one of his main musical influences.Gavin Chipper wrote: It's interesting that someone mentioned The JCB Song by Nizlopi - that more stands out for being impossibly boring, a bit like Ed Sheeran now.
My music choices aren't based on moralsJohn Gillies wrote:Gary Glitter, Ian (I watched him on Top of the Pops as a teenager )
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It seemed a little muted this time around - John Williams is still pretty decent though, innit. Still not fussed if I don't listen to music but enjoy it more now when I do.Jennifer Steadman wrote:What about, say, the Star Wars theme tune? Does the opening minute or so not fill you with joy? (I'm guessing the answer'll be no, but it's so glorious and iconic, etc.)Adam Gillard wrote:It's still annoying most of the time. The rest of the time it's so samey that it's cringeworthy (e.g. the music for a love scene or a farewell scene). Sometimes it's cool, but I wouldn't like the music on its own (i.e., if there weren't a similarly cool action sequence going on in the foreground).Jennifer Steadman wrote:Out of interest, what do you think of music in films - do you find it annoying/not conducive for adding to the mood of a scene?
Incidentally, the phrase 'music for a love scene' makes me think of those diabolical Eurotrash soundtracks for those late night Movies4Men films. Never a good thing to think of. Or listen to. Or watch.
Aye, the whole Currents album is sick.Jennifer Steadman wrote:Can't stop listening to The Less I Know The Better by Tame Impala. The bassline is sleazy as fuck and I LOVE IT.
Their search engine optimisation must be a fucking nightmare! Great band though.Mark James wrote:American Football are back it seems. No longer will they be able to be featured on the list of great bands who only had one album (if you heaven't heard said album you should check it out). Their new song is top stuff too https://soundcloud.com/american-football