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Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:28 pm
by Michael Wallace
Today's show started with some god-awful 'joke' from some guy called 'chris corby', let's hope that the show picks up from here ;)

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:52 pm
by Michael Wallace
does FAUCETS not count for being American? (or have I just mis-seen the letters in round 9?)

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:02 pm
by Joseph Bolas
I think you can have UNSORTED as an equaller.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:09 pm
by Joseph Bolas
3rd Numbers Alternative: (100 - (10 - 7)) x (50 / 25)

EDIT: Is it me or was Carl trying to do a Jeffrey by buzzing in before he knew the answer?

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:23 pm
by DaveC
R2 alternative DOPAMINE
R6 equaller RAPTURE

R14 a round the world way of reaching JB's slicker solution.

100- (75/25) = 97

7- (50/10) = 2

97 x 2 = 194.

R10 the 945 was reachable via...
100+25*7= 875+75=950-5

I threw it at the solver and that's as close as it's possible to get.

DC

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:38 pm
by Ben Pugh
SCIAENID equaller.

I missed the opening, did they mention about the challenger being on before when his opponent cheated (saying PROMATE and then claiming she had PRONATE)?

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:42 pm
by Ben Pugh
Michael Wallace wrote:does FAUCETS not count for being American? (or have I just mis-seen the letters in round 9?)
FAUCETS does count, even though it is an American word. American words count but American spellings of words where there is a different spelling more traditionally used in British English aren't allowed, most of the words that I can think of where that applies are ones where there is vowel before an E not featured in American English, like FOETUS.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:13 pm
by Michael Wallace
Ben Pugh wrote:SCIAENID equaller.

I missed the opening, did they mention about the challenger being on before when his opponent cheated (saying PROMATE and then claiming she had PRONATE)?
They said that he'd been on before but that someone had "miscounted" (or something like that). I was not aware of this promate/pronate business, it sounds delicious.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:29 pm
by Ben Pugh
Michael Wallace wrote:
Ben Pugh wrote:SCIAENID equaller.

I missed the opening, did they mention about the challenger being on before when his opponent cheated (saying PROMATE and then claiming she had PRONATE)?
They said that he'd been on before but that someone had "miscounted" (or something like that). I was not aware of this promate/pronate business, it sounds delicious.
It was only last series.

http://www.thecountdowncorral.com/cd/re ... recap=1254

In round 4, both declared that they had risky 7s, the challenger said they had PROMATE but DC and Des didn't hear properly so they said something along the lines of 'did you say PRONATE?', the challenger looked somewhat surprised and then said she had PRONATE and then Des/DC said it was in, Countdown favourite etc. Carl then went on to lose.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:41 pm
by Michael Wallace
ohhhh, that rings a bell now, actually - so when they said today that someone had 'miscounted' was that just a politer way of saying 'someone cheated'

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:04 pm
by Joseph Bolas
Ben Pugh wrote:In round 4, both declared that they had risky 7s, the challenger said they had PROMATE but DC and Des didn't hear properly so they said something along the lines of 'did you say PRONATE?', the challenger looked somewhat surprised and then said she had PRONATE and then Des/DC said it was in, Countdown favourite etc. Carl then went on to lose.
But Carl lost by 19 points, so even if they had picked up on the PROMATE indcident, Carl still would've lost anyway.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:35 pm
by Howard Somerset
Good to see that Carl has had a chance to come back after the PROMATE / PRONATE incident.

True, he lost that game by 19 points, but it's quite possible that the incident put him off his stride; it occurred in the first section of the show.

I wonder if his win in series 57 will count, and so leave him now on two wins.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:59 pm
by Martin Gardner
MELANOID as another equaller.

Martin

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:13 pm
by Joseph Bolas
Howard Somerset wrote:True, he lost that game by 19 points, but it's quite possible that the incident put him off his stride; it occurred in the first section of the show.
Surely if there was a problem, Carl could've just interrupted the recording and pointed it out?

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:04 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Maybe he didn't realise. Fact is, the guy got cheated, and now they're back on. Just like Amey. Sorry Joseph.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:44 pm
by James Hurrell
Imagine he would start again this series just like Martin May in Series 56/57

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:36 pm
by Jon Corby
Howard Somerset wrote:Good to see that Carl has had a chance to come back after the PROMATE / PRONATE incident.
Quite agree, he deserved another bash as he was cheated out. You can't just subtract the points from the cheated round, as he may have declared differently due to being behind etc etc.

It would have been nicer though if PAULINE HUGGINS had been publicly shamed, either by just mentioning what had happened (rather than the "counting mistake" cover-up) or possibly by her being suspended in a cage next to the clock for the duration of the show.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:02 pm
by Richard Priest
Joseph Bolas wrote:3rd Numbers Alternative: (100 - (10 - 7)) x (50 / 25)

EDIT: Is it me or was Carl trying to do a Jeffrey by buzzing in before he knew the answer?
Possibly but it wasn't crucial so I don't know why he would have done that.If it was kosher it must have been one of the quickest conundrums in history!

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:24 am
by Malcolm James
Jim Bentley wrote 19th Nov 2007

Bit of a minefield, this round, as I would have taken Carl's offering
as "PORTENT" - it was Des who said "PORTANT", stressing the hard 'A',
which made Alison disallow it without giving him the chance to spell
it. Then again, that's just what we saw on telly, so it might just be
a load of bollocks.

Sounds as though this whole round was a complete c**k-up. The swing on this round could have been 14 points.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:30 am
by Jon Corby
Malcolm James wrote:Sounds as though this whole round was a complete c**k-up. The swing on this round could have been 14 points.
I don't think so - unlike Pauline, Carl had his word written down. Had they disallowed PORTANT when he actually had PORTENT written down, I don't think anyone would be so meek as to not challenge this.

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:55 am
by Martin Gardner
That was my question, and it's quite an important one to Jason Cullen as he's #8 seed, do the points from his games in Series 57 count in this series? If they do, then he's two wins away from getting the #8 seed spot, if they don't he's three games away. Not only that, if he lost after 4 wins, he'd actually have 4 wins and 2 losses so he'd automatically have a higher points total than Jacu, because he's played six games, not five!

Martin

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:36 pm
by Joseph Bolas
Martin Gardner wrote:That was my question, and it's quite an important one to Jason Cullen as he's #8 seed, do the points from his games in Series 57 count in this series? If they do, then he's two wins away from getting the #8 seed spot, if they don't he's three games away. Not only that, if he lost after 4 wins, he'd actually have 4 wins and 2 losses so he'd automatically have a higher points total than Jacu, because he's played six games, not five!
Doesn't Des say how many wins the champion has got or anything like that after the conundrum?

Re: Spoilers for Monday 19th May 2008

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:30 pm
by Howard Somerset
I think Des sometimes says how many wins the current champion is on, but as often as not, I've also heard him ask the champion just how many that makes it.

Regarding Martin's point about counting 4 wins and 2 losses, I would guess that the defeat in series 57 would not count towards any points total, because they are effectively regarding the series 57 defeat as a void match by bringing him back.

It's still interesting, though, as to whether the series 57 win will count when seedings are determined.