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Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:16 pm
by Charlie Reams
For a bit of fun I thought I'd run a Scrabble consensus game, the brains of C4C vs the brawn of Quackle, an excellent Scrabble AI.

People can propose moves or support previous suggestions, and the move with the most support at the end of each day gets played. (In the event of a tie, the player with the highest Apterous rating gets the casting vote.) Note the dictionary used in CSW, not ODE, because no one wants to learn the ODE twos. CSW is much larger than ODE so you won't make many errors that way. Please no solvers, dictionaries or other trickery.

So, move 1. Quackle moved first and scored 30 points for HOWRE. Our rack and current board position is shown below:

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Votes by 23:59 on 27 February please.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:40 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Challenge. There's an apostrophe in how're.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:56 pm
by Matt Morrison
Jon O'Neill wrote:Challenge. There's an apostrophe in how're.
One of the best posts I've read in ages.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:05 pm
by Matt Morrison
FIRE, C9 horizontal, 23 points.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:46 pm
by Jon O'Neill
If FOILIER is no good then I would go for E4 or E7 FOLIO for more points and a better leave.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:48 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Er, apart from the more points bit.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:51 pm
by Charlie Reams
FOLIO scores 16 and keeps IER.
FIRE scores 23 and keeps OIL.

IER is better than OIL but not 7 points better, IMO.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:41 pm
by Ian Volante
LIFE on C9.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:41 pm
by Dinos Sfyris
Ian Volante wrote:LIFE on C9.
This. Same points as FIRE but the sticky out letters which Quackle may build on are slightly less points-generous.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:45 pm
by Charlie Reams
OIR is also a slightly preferable leave to OIL, I think, and also FIRE takes an A front hook when we don't have an A. So yeah, LIFE would be my vote for now.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:27 pm
by JimBentley
Is WIFIE at F8 worth considering? Scores 19 and keeps LOR (which seems better to me than either OIR or OIL, but that's just cos I've got a real aversion to keeping more vowels than consonants - probably misguided). It does open a couple of double word lines for Quackle to exploit, though.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:14 pm
by Peter Mabey
I'll go for LIFE, on grounds that it give Quackle fewer chances.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:53 pm
by Charlie Reams
WIFIE scores 19 and while LOR isn't a bad leave, I don't think it's 4 points better than OIR, especially because (little known fact) L and R have negative synergy.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:31 pm
by Jon O'Neill
Charlie Reams wrote:WIFIE scores 19 and while LOR isn't a bad leave, I don't think it's 4 points better than OIR, especially because (little known fact) L and R have negative synergy.
That's ridiculous. Lorry, laundry, looroll, I could go on all night.

I'm happy to go with the consensus here. Don't think any of the moves stand out.

Re: Scrabble Consensus Game

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:36 pm
by Craig Beevers
Choose LIFE...

One vote for that.