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Here is a list of all the Octochamps in the 15-round era who went on to win all 11 gamess to win their series - in fact all the champions have been Octochamps, apart from Ben Wilson who was a Viscount.

1. Julian Fell - 1307
2. Jack Hurst - 1276
3. Kirk Bevins - 1240
4. Craig Beevers - 1236
5. Conor Travers - 1219
5= Chris Davies - 1219
7. Chris Wills - 1213
8. Chris Cummins - 1184
9. Stewart Holden - 1177
10. David O'Donnell - 1158
11. Oliver Garner - 1137
12. Mark Tournoff - 1127
13. Richard Brittain - 1102
14. Junaid Mubeen - 1098
15. John Mayhew - 1076*
16. John Davies - 1066
17. Ben Wilson - 1028**
18. Nick Wainwright - 1026

*Does not include 10 points for extra conundrum in final
**Viscount score multiplied by 8/6

Here are the 11-champs for the 9-round era: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/gevinc ... ssage/1195

1. Harvey Freeman - 760
2. Scott Mearns - 718
3. Don Reid - 698
4. Dick Green - 688
5. David Acton - 686
6. Graham Nash - 684
7. Chris Waddington - 680
8. Nic Brown - 677
9. Michael Calder - 653
10. Gareth Williams - 639
11. Darryl Francis - 633
12. Lawrence Pearse - 619
13. Kate Ogilvie - 613
14. Ray McPhie - 612
15. David Trace - 604

John Clarke won 5 games unbeaten before going into the knockout
stages of series 11 which he won. If his 5 game total is multiplied
by 8/5 and added to his knockout total, his score is 703.8 which
would put him 3rd on this list.

Have you gone mad?

Damian E wrote:Have you gone mad?

Not that I've noticed. You?

Damian E wrote:Have you gone mad?

"gone"? shome mishtake shurely.

I think David O'Donnell slots in with a 1158. 4th on the octochamp list but 7th here.

Interestingly, Harvey Freeman score converted into today's terms would probably put him between Chris Cummins and Stewart Holden. Crucially, this also puts him ahead of David O'Donnell (who would have been ahead on octochamp scores alone), so with Craig Beevers's withdrawal from the CofC, Harvey Freeman will still be the highest-scoring series player to go onto win the CofC, regardless of who wins this time (unless this series's winner scores a ridiculous number of points in the final stages). His brilliance at the game is not just relative to the time when he played.

Edit - His 523 in 8 games converted to 850.5 (from memory) on a round by round basis, and converting his 65 and 76 in the QF and SF using the 18/11 rule of thumb (230.73), and converting the final round by round (100.125) gives an 11 game total of 1181 rounded to the nearest whole number.

Is there not a better prefix for the number 11? Triochamp, quadrochamp, octochamp, decachamp etc are ok but 11-champ is lame. Fix it.

Matthew Green wrote:Is there not a better prefix for the number 11? Triochamp, quadrochamp, octochamp, decachamp etc are ok but 11-champ is lame. Fix it.

Well according to Math World, a Hendecagon is an 11-sided shape, so you could have a Hendecachamp.

Matthew Green wrote:Is there not a better prefix for the number 11? Triochamp, quadrochamp, octochamp, decachamp etc are ok but 11-champ is lame. Fix it.

Sensible sounding choices are: 'undecachamp' or 'hendecachamp' from:

Greek Prefix for eleven: hendeca-/hendeka-
Latin Prefix for eleven: undeca-

Personally, I think 'hendecachamp' rolls off the tongue better, but would viewers understand what it means?

Joseph beat my post to it!

If I remember correctly, the Greek would be heiskaidekachamp for a male and miakaidekachamp for a female. These terms could definitely catch on.

Julie T wrote:Joseph beat my post to it!

Going by your post above that, I think a Hendecachamp would sound better than an Undecachamp

What about a xicount?

Gavin Chipper wrote:What about a xicount?

I was going to come up with a viscount related one, but you beat me to it, and did it better.

Gavin Chipper wrote:What about a xicount?

Probably the best suggestion yet. One could even write it as Ξcount.

Charlie Reams wrote:

Gavin Chipper wrote:What about a xicount?

Probably the best suggestion yet. One could even write it as Ξcount.

It is such a good idea that it leads me to think Gav started this thread back in April purely to make this suggestion, and has had to sit tight on it for 6 months until somebody raised the question of what they might be called. There's patience for you.

Gavin Chipper wrote:What about a xicount?

Yup, I prefer xicount too!

Didn't get round to putting this on earlier - Junaid Mubeen scored 1098.

I make it that Kirk Bevins scored 1240, slotting him in just ahead of Craig Beevers but still quite a long way behind Julian Fell.

Apart from this, what else do these two men have in common?

Derek Hazell wrote:Apart from this, what else do these two men have in common?

Their first names both start with C. What do I win?

Matt Morrison wrote:

Derek Hazell wrote:Apart from this, what else do these two men have in common?

Their first names both start with C. What do I win?

Haha yeah, these "what do two people have in common" things are stupid aren't they. There are just too many options, such as "they both have two eyes . . . one mouth" etc.. But, there is one specific thing of which I am thinking which connects these two champions.

Derek Hazell wrote:Apart from this, what else do these two men have in common?

You're stalking both of them ?

Sue Sanders wrote:

Derek Hazell wrote:Apart from this, what else do these two men have in common?

You're stalking both of them ?

Hmm, well if I was it wouldn't be a very good question for me to be expecting people on here to answer would it, as no-one - or possibly only the two gentlemen in question - would know!

They've both won the NSC Scrabble Championship?

Is the answer David Webb?

Ben Wilson wrote:Is the answer David Webb?

The thing they've got in common is that they've both had David Webb? I do hope this is in the biblical sense, not the Scrabble world.

Matt Morrison wrote:

Ben Wilson wrote:Is the answer David Webb?

The thing they've got in common is that they've both had David Webb? I do hope this is in the biblical sense, not the Scrabble world.

Well done Ben and Matt! Particularly Ben for planting the seed. They have both beaten David Webb in the finals of a national word game championship.
Chris Waddington in the semi-finals of Series 22 of Countdown (back in 1991), and Craig in the Scrabble one yesterday!

ZOMG spoiler!

I've added Chris Davies in. He's joint 4th along with Conor Travers with 1219 points. Although not a xicount, Andrew Hulme ended on 1197 points.

Gavin Chipper wrote:ZOMG spoiler!

I've added Chris Davies in. He's joint 4th along with Conor Travers with 1219 points. Although not a xicount, Andrew Hulme ended on 1197 points.

Nice
But I'm still not on this page, and neither are Brian, Ryan or Steve from series 61.

I've edited the first post to put Oliver Garner in. He's 10th, although for some reason my list went straight from 9th to 11th anyway, so I didn't have to renumber.

Jack Hurst goes second. Maybe this deserves its own wiki page.

I wouldn't mind making a wiki page for this: two categories, 15 round and 9 round; do you want any other info? And should I include Neb?

Kai Laddiman wrote:I wouldn't mind making a wiki page for this: two categories, 15 round and 9 round; do you want any other info? And should I include Neb?

I would include Neb and John Clarke with footnotes, sort of like I've done above, scaling up their heat scores. Also at the bottom, you could include some high-scoring beaten finalists for comparison (like Eoin Monaghan and Andrew Hulme). Also, they're definitely to be called xicounts on the wiki page!

Gavin Chipper wrote:Here is a list of all the Octochamps in the 15-round era who went on to win all 11 gamess to win their series - in fact all the champions have been Octochamps, apart from Ben Wilson who was a Viscount.

1. Julian Fell - 1307
2. Jack Hurst - 1276
3. Kirk Bevins - 1240
4. Craig Beevers - 1236
5. Conor Travers - 1219
5= Chris Davies - 1219
7. Chris Wills - 121
8. Chris Cummins - 1184
9. Stewart Holden - 1177
10. David O'Donnell - 1158
11. Oliver Garner - 1137
12. Mark Tournoff - 1127
13. Richard Brittain - 1102
14. Junaid Mubeen - 1098
15. John Mayhew - 1076*
16. John Davies - 1066
17. Ben Wilson - 1028**
18. Nick Wainwright - 1026

*Does not include 10 points for extra conundrum in final
**Viscount score multiplied by 8/6

Here are the 11-champs for the 9-round era: http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/gevinc ... ssage/1195

1. Harvey Freeman - 760
2. Scott Mearns - 718
3. Don Reid - 698
4. Dick Green - 688
5. David Acton - 686
6. Graham Nash - 684
7. Chris Waddington - 680
8. Nic Brown - 677
9. Michael Calder - 653
10. Gareth Williams - 639
11. Darryl Francis - 633
12. Lawrence Pearse - 619
13. Kate Ogilvie - 613
14. Ray McPhie - 612
15. David Trace - 604

John Clarke won 5 games unbeaten before going into the knockout
stages of series 11 which he won. If his 5 game total is multiplied
by 8/5 and added to his knockout total, his score is 703.8 which
would put him 3rd on this list.

Ben Wilson a Viscount, now that takes the biscuit
Probably the longest gap between post and pun ever!!!!

Ta-da. Probably needs to be beefed up a little but the skeleton is there.

Kai Laddiman wrote:Ta-da. Probably needs to be beefed up a little but the skeleton is there.

Excellent job. *like*

By the way, if there was ever a televised goatdown tournament, if anyone won their eight heat games and the series, they could be a xigoat.

Gavin Chipper wrote:By the way, if there was ever a televised goatdown tournament, if anyone won their eight heat games and the series, they could be a xigoat.

I'll bet the tournament's grand final would feature two such players, thus making it dixigoatic.

Phenomenal punning chaps.

Do I qualify for this list now (apart from not winning a series of course, working on that)?

Nah.

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:43 pmNah.