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Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:11 pm
by Matt Morrison
Just wondering. I'm a bit scared of meeting some of you one day and pronouncing a hard P, only to be met with laughter, disdain, and fists.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:18 pm
by JackHurst
I pronounce it like both the P's in Phil Pfister.

(Not really, I just wanted to say Phil Pfister)

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:22 pm
by Ian Dent
Of course.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:19 pm
by Matthew Green
More pressingly, is it App-terrus or Apter-us? Or even apteeroux?

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:33 pm
by Miriam Nussbaum
From what the OED says, it seems like it should be pronounced /'æp.tə.ɹəs/.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:35 pm
by Hugh Binnie
Isn't the P silent, as in pshrimp?

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:55 pm
by Alec Rivers
Isn't the P silent as in swimming?

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:56 am
by Marc Meakin
Alec Rivers wrote:Isn't the P silent as in swimming?
Yes but that coloured dye still makes it embarrassing.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:27 am
by Ian Volante
Miriam Nussbaum wrote:From what the OED says, it seems like it should be pronounced /'æp.tə.ɹəs/.
I really need to learn to read phonetic script.

I originally assumed that the P was silent, as in pterosaur, but I got the impression I was wrong, or at least out of step.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:30 am
by Ian Dent
I give it a good hard P.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:30 am
by Ian Dent
I give it a good hard P.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:50 pm
by Alec Rivers
Marc Meakin wrote:
Alec Rivers wrote:Isn't the P silent as in swimming?
Yes but that coloured dye still makes it embarrassing.
lol

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:02 pm
by Matt Morrison
I started this thread assuming that the proper way to say it would be with a silent 'p', simply by sticking an 'a' on the front of 'pterous', which you clearly don't pronounce the p for.
My question was about the word game we play online, as I'd just assumed without question that the word itself was silent-p'd.
As, like Ian, I don't read phonetics, can someone explain whether this assumption is correct or if the 'p' becomes hard with an 'a' in front?

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:07 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Since a similar word to apterous is dipterous and Chris (and Susie) both pronounced it with a hard p, I'm going with the hard p option.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:09 pm
by Marc Meakin
Matt Morrison wrote:I started this thread assuming that the proper way to say it would be with a silent 'p', simply by sticking an 'a' on the front of 'pterous', which you clearly don't pronounce the p for.
My question was about the word game we play online, as I'd just assumed without question that the word itself was silent-p'd.
As, like Ian, I don't read phonetics, can someone explain whether this assumption is correct or if the 'p' becomes hard with an 'a' in front?
Try this :arrow: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apterous

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:15 pm
by Matt Morrison
That's that sorted, then. Cheers.

Re: Do you pronounce the P in 'apterous'?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:44 pm
by Miriam Nussbaum
cf. apnoea. :geek: