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Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:07 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Countdown recap for Monday 14 December 2009.

C1: Champion Innis Carson (8 wins, 861 points.)
C2: Champion Jeffrey 'doesn't rhyme with virgin' Burgin (8 wins, 695 points.)
DC: Susie Dent and Rory McGrath.
RR: Rachel Riley.
OT: Other words or solutions.

This game looks like it's going to be good, with two octochamps, me recapping it and James Robinson starting a spoilers thread about it. Woo!

R01: W R P E U E D S L
R02: O U I A E D N T B
R03: A J N R I A C L E
R04: B R W T M Y I E O
R05: 50, 75, 10, 6, 7, 4. Target: 354.
TTT: ACUTECAR - "You'll have to be pretty spot on to get this."
R06: I E S G I O T L S
R07: P N E A T E G R I
R08: T R C O A E T N O
R09: A R X K E D H A N
R10: 10, 5, 2, 2, 4, 8. Target: 644.
TTT: MINISAGE - "The occasional thought about Mr Lennon, perhaps."
R11: T T C S I O E M L
R12: A O A U O D Y Z R
R13: N S T E I R A G O
R14: 25, 50, 100, 75, 5, 8. Target: 601.
R15: T O O T H P A S T (conundrum)


And now a brief interlude before our main feature:


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Enjoy the show.

Round 1: W R P E U E D S L

C1: PRELUDES (8)
C2: PRELUDES (8)
OT: REPULSED (8)
Score: 8–8 (max 8)

Round 2: O U I A E D N T B

C1: batoned
C2: bountied
DC: OBTAINED (8)
Score: 8–8 (max 16)

Both contestants' 'words' have been on before I think.

Round 3: A J N R I A C L E

C1: CARLINE (7)
C2: ARCANE (6)
DC: CRANIAL (7)
OT: ACARINE (7) CARINAE (7) CARINAL (7)
Score: 15–8 (max 23)

Round 4: B R W T M Y I E O

C1: TIMBER (6)
C2: TIMBER (6)
DC: MOIETY (6)
OT: BIOMETRY (8) I got that :woop:
Score: 21–14 (max 31)

Round 5: 50, 75, 10, 6, 7, 4. Target: 354.

C1: 354. 7 x 50 + 4 (10)
C2: 354. 7 x 50 + 4 (10)
Score: 31–24 (max 41)

A very difficult numbers game is cracked by both of our contestants. Will their awesomeness ever falter?

Rory talks about visiting Limerick for a, um, limerick contest.

Teatime teaser: ACUTECAR -> ACCURATE

Round 6: I E S G I O T L S

C1: LOGIEST (7)
C2: GLOSS (5)
DC: EGOISTS (7) OILIEST (7)
OT: STOGIES (7)
Score: 38–24 (max 48)

Some American word pops up for Innis as Jeff only reaches 5.

Round 7: P N E A T E G R I

C1: REPEATING (18)
C2: REPEATING (18)
Score: 56–42 (max 66)

Even my mum got that ¬_¬

Round 8: T R C O A E T N O

C1: CARTOON (7)
C2: coronate
DC: CORNETTO (8)
Score: 63–42 (max 74)

CORNETTO is a handy anagram of the invalid COTTONER. Unfortunately for Jeffrey, CORONATE isn't in.

Round 9: A R X K E D H A N

C1: HARDEN (6)
C2: DARKEN (6)
OT: ADNEXA (6) DANKER (6) NARKED (6) RANKED (6) DHARNA (6) HANKER (6) HARKEN (6) HARKED (6)
Score: 69–48 (max 80)

Round 10: 10, 5, 2, 2, 4, 8. Target: 644.

C1: 644. (5 x 2 - 2) x 8 x 10 + 4 (10)
C2: 645.
Score: 79–48 (max 90)

A good spot from Innis. (I have a few good spots.)

Teatime teaser: MINISAGE -> IMAGINES

Round 11: T T C S I O E M L

C1: TOILETS (7)
C2: MOTLIEST (8)
Score: 79–56 (max 98)

Nice one. (Marseille nil YES I KNOW!!!)

Round 12: A O A U O D Y Z R

C1: DOOR (4)
C2: ROAD (4)
DC: ODOUR (5)
OT: DOOZY (5) RAZOO (5) ZARDA (5)
Score: 83–60 (max 103)

Ouch! A harsh round for the two of 'em.

Round 13: N S T E I R A G O

C1: ROASTING (8)
C2: groaniest
DC: ANGRIEST (8) ORGANIST (8)
OT: GANISTER (8) GANTRIES (8) INGRATES (8) RANGIEST (8) GENITORS (8) TRIGONES (8) NEGATORS (8) RAGSTONE (8) NOTARIES (8) NOTARISE (8) SENORITA (8) ORGANISE (8)
Score: 91–60 (max 111)

An incredibly inviting round lures Jeff into making a risk, but it doesn't pay off. ul m8

Round 14: 25, 50, 100, 75, 5, 8. Target: 601.

C1: 601. 75 x 8 + 5 - 100 / 25 (10)
C2: 601. 75 x 8 + 5 - 100 / 25 (10)
Score: 101–70 (max 121)

JEFF STOLE MY PUNCHLINE :evil:

Round 15: T O O T H P A S T

C1 buzzes on 7 seconds to say PHOTOSTAT which is correct.
Score: 111–70 (max 131)

An impressive conundrum spot sums up Innis' game - very tidy and very good. Jeff was unlucky, with 3 disallowed words, but it was a vgg.

Statistics Corner

Innis:
Total score - 111
Raw score - 118
Total % of max - 85
Raw % of max - 89
Total average score per round - 7.4
Raw average score per round - 7.9
Number of maxes - 10

Jeffrey:
Total score - 70
Raw score - 88
Total % of max - 53
Raw % of max - 67
Total average score per round - 4.7
Raw average score per round - 5.9
Number of maxes - 5

Fröhliches Weihnachten!

Further summaries are at:
http://www.apterous.org/cdb/series.php?series=61

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:13 pm
by Alec Rivers
Kai Laddiman wrote:This game looks like it's going to be good, with two octochamps, me recapping it and James Robinson starting a spoilers thread about it. Woo!
Well, two out of three ain't bad! :D

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:41 pm
by Phil Reynolds
Kai Laddiman wrote:I have a few good spots.
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Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:10 pm
by Liam Tiernan
Round 13: N S T E I R A G O

C1: ROASTING (8)
C2: groaniest
DC: ANGRIEST (8) ORGANIST (8)
OT: GANISTER (8) GANTRIES (8) INGRATES (8) RANGIEST (8) GENITORS (8) TRIGONES (8) NEGATORS (8) RAGSTONE (8) NOTARIES (8) NOTARISE (8) SENORITA (8) ORGANISE (8)
Score: 91–60 (max 111)

You missed GRANITES (99% obscurity rating, can't be right, surely)

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:17 pm
by Kai Laddiman
Liam Tiernan wrote:Round 13: N S T E I R A G O

C1: ROASTING (8)
C2: groaniest
DC: ANGRIEST (8) ORGANIST (8)
OT: GANISTER (8) GANTRIES (8) INGRATES (8) RANGIEST (8) GENITORS (8) TRIGONES (8) NEGATORS (8) RAGSTONE (8) NOTARIES (8) NOTARISE (8) SENORITA (8) ORGANISE (8)
Score: 91–60 (max 111)

You missed GRANITES (99% obscurity rating, can't be right, surely)
Yeh for some odd reason it isn't in CountMax. Meh.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:26 pm
by JimBentley
Kai Laddiman wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:You missed GRANITES (99% obscurity rating, can't be right, surely)
Yeh for some odd reason it isn't in CountMax. Meh.
It's a bit of an oddity, this one and it depends on the vintage of the CountMax. At first it was included because it was (erroneously) included in the Official Countdown Words, but then it was removed when we took out the mass noun plurals. But then the ODE2r came out and it was actually specified as allowable in the usage notes, so it went back in. Then (and things get a bit hazy here) I think Susie might have disallowed it on the show, so back out it went. Finally, at some point between then and the start of this year (ish) it came up again in discussion and it seemed odd for it not to be in, so it should (still) be in the current version.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:27 pm
by Alec Rivers
JimBentley wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:You missed GRANITES (99% obscurity rating, can't be right, surely)
Yeh for some odd reason it isn't in CountMax. Meh.
It's a bit of an oddity, this one and it depends on the vintage of the CountMax. At first it was included because it was (erroneously) included in the Official Countdown Words, but then it was removed when we took out the mass noun plurals. But then the ODE2r came out and it was actually specified as allowable in the usage notes, so it went back in. Then (and things get a bit hazy here) I think Susie might have disallowed it on the show, so back out it went. Finally, at some point between then and the start of this year (ish) it came up again in discussion and it seemed odd for it not to be in, so it should (still) be in the current version.
It's in the updated list of 30 October.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:06 am
by Simon Myers
JimBentley wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:You missed GRANITES (99% obscurity rating, can't be right, surely)
Yeh for some odd reason it isn't in CountMax. Meh.
It's a bit of an oddity, this one and it depends on the vintage of the CountMax. At first it was included because it was (erroneously) included in the Official Countdown Words, but then it was removed when we took out the mass noun plurals. But then the ODE2r came out and it was actually specified as allowable in the usage notes, so it went back in. Then (and things get a bit hazy here) I think Susie might have disallowed it on the show, so back out it went. Finally, at some point between then and the start of this year (ish) it came up again in discussion and it seemed odd for it not to be in, so it should (still) be in the current version.
Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:33 am
by Liam Tiernan
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
No thank you. I'll stick with INGRATES

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:56 am
by Kirk Bevins
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
It frustrates me when people say this. People who aren't 'anagram-wise' may not see ANGRIEST (ANGR^ is a hard prefix to spot) but might just see GRANITES. Obviously I'd offer GANISTER but if contestants do offer GRANITES (and don't see anything else) then it's useful to know if it's allowed.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:12 am
by Innis Carson
Wasn't going to lose any sleep over it but our declarations of DOOR and ROAD are the wrong way round. Nice work otherwise.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:26 am
by Martin Smith
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
No thank you. I'll stick with INGRATES
Good one!

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:03 am
by Marc Meakin
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
No thank you. I'll stick with INGRATES
I prefer GANTRIES

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:39 am
by Jon Corby
Marc Meakin wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
No thank you. I'll stick with INGRATES
I prefer GANTRIES
I prefer SEATING.

:?

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:58 pm
by Liam Tiernan
Martin Smith wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Simon Myers wrote: Stay safe and offer ANGRIEST. Friends don't let friends use dodgy mass noun plurals.
No thank you. I'll stick with INGRATES
Good one!
Thanks. Was wondering if anyone would spot it.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 5:49 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Liam Tiernan wrote: Thanks. Was wondering if anyone would spot it.
I don't understand.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 6:09 pm
by Charlie Reams
Kirk Bevins wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: Thanks. Was wondering if anyone would spot it.
I don't understand.
Cheers for taking the hit. I don't understand either.

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:27 pm
by Marc Meakin
Kirk Bevins wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: Thanks. Was wondering if anyone would spot it.
I don't understand.
Ingrates as opposed to friends. :?:

Re: Monday 14th December 2009 (Series 61, QF 3)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:02 pm
by Liam Tiernan
Marc Meakin wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: Thanks. Was wondering if anyone would spot it.
I don't understand.
Ingrates as opposed to friends. :?:
As in ungrateful.(No thank you?)