Spoilers for Thursday November 12th 2009 Series 61

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:52 am

Ryan Taylor plays his 6th game today against Martyn Simpson.

Post your spoilers here - and of course, any puns that might get the readers Groening.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:32 pm

This should be a good match.

Another face off between 2 Apterites.

Who will have a Springfield in their steps and who will just be going Homer

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:39 pm

D Eadie wrote:Post your spoilers here - and of course, any puns that might get the readers Groening.

As that one relies on mispronouncing Matt Groening's name, I reckon it'll be pretty hard to follow.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:46 pm

James Robinson wrote:This should be a good match.

Another face off between 2 Apterites.

Who will have a Springfield in their steps and who will just be going Homer

You're slipping James: you forgot to point out that today is Thursday, that the week is nearly over, that Ryan might become an octochamp if he keeps winning games and all the other usual fascinating titbits.

Darren Carter · Post by **Darren Carter** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:17 pm

I'd laugh if 742 was a target for one of the number games.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:23 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
James Robinson wrote:This should be a good match.

Another face off between 2 Apterites.

Who will have a Springfield in their steps and who will just be going Homer
You're slipping James: you forgot to point out that today is Thursday, that the week is nearly over, that Ryan might become an octochamp if he keeps winning games and all the other usual fascinating titbits.

Well, Damian has pointed out that it's Thursday.

It seems pretty obvious to all of us taht if Ryan carries on winning, he'll be an octochamp.

One little titbit is that Bob De Caux will drop out of the top 8 if Ryan wins today. So, that'd be one Apterite in and one Apterite, assuming Ryan wins of course.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:24 pm

Darren Carter wrote:I'd laugh if 742 was a target for one of the number games.

Why

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:39 pm

You are slipping up a bit James. Put a new alarm clock on your santa list.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:46 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Darren Carter wrote:I'd laugh if 742 was a target for one of the number games.
Why

Aye carumba.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:48 pm

D Eadie wrote:Ryan Taylor plays his 6th game today against Martyn Simpson.

Post your spoilers here - and of course, any puns that might get the readers Groening.

Worst Simpson pun ever

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:13 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
James Robinson wrote:
Darren Carter wrote:I'd laugh if 742 was a target for one of the number games.
Why
Aye carumba.

Ah, just worked it out. Stupid me.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:17 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
D Eadie wrote:Post your spoilers here - and of course, any puns that might get the readers Groening.
As that one relies on mispronouncing Matt Groening's name, I reckon it'll be pretty hard to follow.

Now that...........HAS to be the most pedantic reply of all time.

Hang your head in shame Phil. Our love affair is officially over.

PS - i was going to put, Ah !! Poo, having read about my mistake, but you've emotionally destroyed me.

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:28 pm

Ryan has entered into the spirit of "orange for orangatangs" day by tinting his hair.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:34 pm

SAXOMANIS . . . Charlie Parker?

Sorry, just trying to make Damian feel better by doing an even worse pun!

Mark Kudlowski · Post by **Mark Kudlowski** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:40 pm

1st numbers alt:

((100 x 2) + 10 + 1) x 3

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:48 pm

Is it slightly cynical of me to suggest it would be nice if Ryan knew these as words rather than strings of letters?

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:49 pm

Alternative seven STEALER

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:49 pm

DEISTICAL

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:49 pm

the RELATES round... final consonant instead of vowel (C came out first next round) would have produced LACERATES

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:51 pm

There is a nine in the Delicates round

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:51 pm

rostering

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:51 pm

Sue Sanders wrote:Is it slightly cynical of me to suggest it would be nice if Ryan knew these as words rather than strings of letters?

Kirk's had similar accusations levelled at him plenty of times, so you'd have to be willing to tar him with the same brush.
Ryan's conversation with Corby in another spoilers thread suggests this is a competition to him rather than a love-of-words game, and deciding whether that's wrong or not will always be subjective opinion.

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:54 pm

Sue Sanders wrote:Is it slightly cynical of me to suggest it would be nice if Ryan knew these as words rather than strings of letters?

'Fraid so - it seems to be a common tactic. Kirk was very kindly teaching me the PAINTERS stem (cos you never know when it'll come in handy) and he didn't know what they meant either. Besides, that's how women think. I can only submit words I know. Men are much better at random strings - it's the way their brains work. But we still have tits

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:55 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:There is a nine in the Delicates round

SILICATED? Don't think so.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:58 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote:
Marc Meakin wrote:There is a nine in the Delicates round
SILICATED? Don't think so.

DEISTICAL (dunno what it means though)

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:00 pm

Lesley Hines wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:Is it slightly cynical of me to suggest it would be nice if Ryan knew these as words rather than strings of letters?
'Fraid so - it seems to be a common tactic. Kirk was very kindly teaching me the PAINTERS stem (cos you never know when it'll come in handy) and he didn't know what they meant either. Besides, that's how women think. I can only submit words I know. Men are much better at random strings - it's the way their brains work. But we still have tits

I'm learning a lot of definitions as a by-product of my Scrabble study, although I didn't know any of them when I was on Countdown as there weren't any definitions in the word list. It's nice to know them but it's nicer still to have Susie read out the definition properly.

Anyway finished my sarnies so no excuse not to get back to Zyzzyva and it's wonderful 3000+ a day cardbox.

DEISTICAL is from DEISTIC which is from DEIST which is religious philosophy.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:03 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote:
Marc Meakin wrote:There is a nine in the Delicates round
SILICATED? Don't think so.
DEISTICAL (dunno what it means though)

I smell a set-up.

Mark Kudlowski · Post by **Mark Kudlowski** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:06 pm

3rd numbers :

(50 x 8 x 2) + 10 - 1

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:10 pm

Such a pity we probably won't see Bob again. But I enjoyed Ryan's joy at the end when he got his conundrum.

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:13 pm

Derek Hazell wrote:Such a pity we probably won't see Bob again. But I enjoyed Ryan's joy at the end when he got his conundrum.

I didn't enjoy it. Only three secs before they went to the audience. I'd got it, and Kirk, sitting next to me, hadn't!

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:16 pm

Howard Somerset wrote:
Derek Hazell wrote:Such a pity we probably won't see Bob again. But I enjoyed Ryan's joy at the end when he got his conundrum.
I didn't enjoy it. Only three secs before they went to the audience. I'd got it, and Kirk, sitting next to me, hadn't!

Aww that's not good, Howard! It would have been great to have seen you finally rewarded with a notable appearance on your favourite show.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:16 pm

ANOSMIA in round 2 as a beater.

Well done Ryan on getting your first conundrum - just in the nick of time too! 123 points is a great score and will get you on the high scores (120+) page on The Countdown Page.

Sue, I think a lot of top players now learn words for Countdown as strings of letters. My mum kept badgering me to learn what they mean but if I was to check up all the new words I learn I'd still be there, memorising their definitions too. It's much quicker and much more efficient to just memorise patterns of letters and link them to words. The only problem with this is not knowing if they are adjectives or mass noun (so take no -S) or if they are nouns/verbs and so you can extend them. An example is VARIATE. Sounds like a verb but it's actually a noun so VARIATED^ is no good, but VARIATES is. It's a term from Statistics and it's a noun - that's as far as my memory takes me. Now it's in the memory bank I move on and remember more words. Simple.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:18 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:ANOSMIA in round 2 as a beater.

Well done Ryan on getting your first conundrum - just in the nick of time too! 123 points is a great score and will get you on the high scores (120+) page on The Countdown Page.

Sue, I think a lot of top players now learn words for Countdown as strings of letters. My mum kept badgering me to learn what they mean but if I was to check up all the new words I learn I'd still be there, memorising their definitions too. It's much quicker and much more efficient to just memorise patterns of letters and link them to words. The only problem with this is not knowing if they are adjectives or mass noun (so take no -S) or if they are nouns/verbs and so you can extend them. An example is VARIATE. Sounds like a verb but it's actually a noun so VARIATED^ is no good, but VARIATES is. It's a term from Statistics and it's a noun - that's as far as my memory takes me. Now it's in the memory bank I move on and remember more words. Simple.

Did you get DIESTICAL?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:22 pm

Marc Meakin wrote: Did you get DIESTICAL?

DEISTICAL you mean - no I didn't. I played along in the studio and then got home, shoved them through solvers and then watch the show again a month later. I aim to then get a max game. I spotted DEISTICAL this time (CILIATES + CILIATED) which gives me a small sense I'm improving (it probably doesn't - it probably just means I remembered there was a 9 coming out at this point but I like to think I'm learning).

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:26 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:ANOSMIA in round 2 as a beater.

Well done Ryan on getting your first conundrum - just in the nick of time too! 123 points is a great score and will get you on the high scores (120+) page on The Countdown Page.

Sue, I think a lot of top players now learn words for Countdown as strings of letters. My mum kept badgering me to learn what they mean but if I was to check up all the new words I learn I'd still be there, memorising their definitions too. It's much quicker and much more efficient to just memorise patterns of letters and link them to words. The only problem with this is not knowing if they are adjectives or mass noun (so take no -S) or if they are nouns/verbs and so you can extend them. An example is VARIATE. Sounds like a verb but it's actually a noun so VARIATED^ is no good, but VARIATES is. It's a term from Statistics and it's a noun - that's as far as my memory takes me. Now it's in the memory bank I move on and remember more words. Simple.

Well, I know - but I'm old fashioned. I did mispronounce a word in my own game because what I had written, PINNATE had a double letter so I knew how is should be pronounced. But it's a word relating to leaf formation and I mistakenly had it in my brain that it was to do with the shape of pine needles so got all confused and said it as 'pinate'.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:27 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Marc Meakin wrote: Did you get DIESTICAL?
DEISTICAL you mean - no I didn't. I played along in the studio and then got home, shoved them through solvers and then watch the show again a month later. I aim to then get a max game. I spotted DEISTICAL this time (CILIATES + CILIATED) which gives me a small sense I'm improving (it probably doesn't - it probably just means I remembered there was a 9 coming out at this point but I like to think I'm learning).

Oh yeah I thought SILICATED was a word but tried a solver afterwards as I am good at spotting letter combinations that yield a nine but can never remember the word.

Martyn Simpson · Post by **Martyn Simpson** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:36 pm

Thanks for all the Simpsons puns guys...... for the record, I did say d'oh when I lost! But fair play to Ryan, he scored in every round and was a worthy victor.

Overall a very enjoyable experience, although I'm slightly disappointed at missing a rather obvious 9!

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:55 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Marc Meakin wrote: Did you get DIESTICAL?
DEISTICAL you mean - no I didn't. I played along in the studio and then got home, shoved them through solvers and then watch the show again a month later. I aim to then get a max game. I spotted DEISTICAL this time (CILIATES + CILIATED) which gives me a small sense I'm improving (it probably doesn't - it probably just means I remembered there was a 9 coming out at this point but I like to think I'm learning).

Kirk, are you serious, or are you toying with our gesneriads?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:22 pm

D Eadie wrote: Kirk, are you serious, or are you toying with our gesneriads?

Ha. I was kinda serious yeah (although it reminded me of something James had typed on here at some point about he always does better when watching the same game at home versus in the studio

).

The seriousness was trying to get what I originally missed. I looked back over some old games of mine from apterous and played the rounds again and see if I'd improved. I had but still missed some silly maxes. It would be an interesting feature on apterous if we could specifically play the rounds where we missed the maximum again to see if we could spot the maximum the second or third times round.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:02 pm

I noticed RUMPLED as a nice contestant-beater in round 11.

Tim talking about karaoke brought back memories of hearing him sing in a karaoke bar at the Pleasance during the 1999 Edinburgh Fringe. Can't remember what he sang as I was sitting at a table with Richard Herring who heckled drunkenly all the way through and then got up and murdered the Osmonds' Crazy Horses. (Actually, thinking about it, the Osmonds had mortally wounded it already - Rich just finished the job.)

Darren Carter · Post by **Darren Carter** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:30 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:I noticed RUMPLED as a nice contestant-beater in round 11.

I was just about to post that......

Eoin Monaghan · Post by **Eoin Monaghan** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:42 pm

I was disappointed PONTIFIC wasn't in, I would have risked that but other than that I got 119.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:59 pm

Had a slightly strange brain-fry in round 6 when I noticed a common prefix (OUT-), looked to see if there was anything to follow it, and thought, "Oh yeah - OUTSWAY for 7". Never occurred to me it might even be risky, and was surprised when the contestants declared 6s. I was about to post it here as another smug contestant-beater and suddenly thought: "Hold on; is it a word?" and of course it isn't. Somehow, in the space of a few seconds, I'd managed to invent it and convince myself that I'd heard it countless times before. I can only guess I must have subconsciously conflated "outweigh" and "hold sway".

My mind is going, Dave; I can feel it.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:01 pm

OUTSWAY was the first thing I wrote down.

It just felt so right

(Love the Herring/Vine story. Did you ever see the Peepolykus stuff at Edinburgh, or some of the crazy plays by the prepubescent Mitchell and Webb?)

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:27 am

Phil Reynolds wrote:Had a slightly strange brain-fry in round 6 when I noticed a common prefix (OUT-), looked to see if there was anything to follow it, and thought, "Oh yeah - OUTSWAY for 7". Never occurred to me it might even be risky, and was surprised when the contestants declared 6s. I was about to post it here as another smug contestant-beater and suddenly thought: "Hold on; is it a word?" and of course it isn't. Somehow, in the space of a few seconds, I'd managed to invent it and convince myself that I'd heard it countless times before. I can only guess I must have subconsciously conflated "outweigh" and "hold sway".

My mind is going, Dave; I can feel it.

Next thing you know you'll be singing "Daisy, Daisy......" in some karaoke bar with Tim Vine.

Jeffrey Burgin · Post by **Jeffrey Burgin** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:08 am

Sue Sanders wrote: Well, I know - but I'm old fashioned.

Well, I'm young-fashioned and I don't do it either- as I've said before, I prefer just playing the game as I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn all these long stems, the only one I know being the CANTERS one. I'm sure this will be to my detriment come quarter-finals, in addition to the fact I haven't watched a show or been on Apterous since my broadcast dates!

Well done on making the quarters Ryan, I hope you kick on to become an Octochamp.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:19 am

Jeffrey Burgin wrote:Well, I'm young-fashioned and I don't do it either- as I've said before, I prefer just playing the game as I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn all these long stems, the only one I know being the CANTERS one. I'm sure this will be to my detriment come quarter-finals, in addition to the fact I haven't watched a show or been on Apterous since my broadcast dates!

Haha, seems I was even wrong about us at least having Countdown-watching in common then!

It's good that the new young batch of players aren't all playing in the same way - so we can at least agree on that part!

Martyn Simpson · Post by **Martyn Simpson** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:33 am

Jeffrey Burgin wrote:
Well, I'm young-fashioned and I don't do it either- as I've said before, I prefer just playing the game as I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn all these long stems, the only one I know being the CANTERS one. I'm sure this will be to my detriment come quarter-finals, in addition to the fact I haven't watched a show or been on Apterous since my broadcast dates!

Well done on making the quarters Ryan, I hope you kick on to become an Octochamp.

Out of interest, how come?

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:46 am

He's in prison.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:51 am

D Eadie wrote:He's in prison.

Cell mates with Frank Mulvey.

Philip Jarvis · Post by **Philip Jarvis** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:48 pm

Davy Affleck wrote:rostering

Is that rostered or non-rostered leave you're asking for Davy?

[In joke from one fire Service to another]

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:45 am

Just watched this and well done again Ryan. Was surprised MILAGES was disallowed so i checked it and apterous lexplorer says it's valid!

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:47 am

Oh, and well done and hard luck Martyn.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:10 am

Andy Wilson wrote:Just watched this and well done again Ryan. Was surprised MILAGES was disallowed so i checked it and apterous lexplorer says it's valid!

Susie said MILAGES was fine - it was declared as an eight (MILEAGES) but there was only one E in the selection.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:16 am

Jon Corby wrote:
Andy Wilson wrote:Just watched this and well done again Ryan. Was surprised MILAGES was disallowed so i checked it and apterous lexplorer says it's valid!
Susie said MILAGES was fine - it was declared as an eight (MILEAGES) but there was only one E in the selection.

Although some miles earlier, Julian's mouth Fell open at it being disallowed.

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:31 am

Silly me - was making breakfast and not really watching very carefully obviously.

Martyn Simpson · Post by **Martyn Simpson** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:48 pm

Jon Corby wrote:
Andy Wilson wrote:Just watched this and well done again Ryan. Was surprised MILAGES was disallowed so i checked it and apterous lexplorer says it's valid!
Susie said MILAGES was fine - it was declared as an eight (MILEAGES) but there was only one E in the selection.

Correct. I had Goalies down for 7, to match Ryan, but had to take a gamble to try and claw some points back. Heaven knows where I "saw" that extra "e" though....

Jeffrey Burgin · Post by **Jeffrey Burgin** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 8:56 am

Martyn Simpson wrote:Out of interest, how come?

Well, post-recording I had a break from Apterous for a bit as I obviously wasn't practicing any more and I was at work a lot, and as I started uni on the 5th October I haven't really had any time to spare what with general socialising/getting slashed and chasing clunge. Oh yeah, that and my assignments. Anywho, you can't watch TV live on your computer and evenings are spent doing the above, and 45 minutes is too long a period of time to justify taking out of my day when I could be on Facebook. This, and the fact that the port for Apterous is blocked and despite me emailing the techie people they are lazy bastards who obviously don't check their emails or don't give a shit.

Ok I lied, I'm in prison. I'm on day-release for quarters. If someone can smuggle me out in one of the goody bags, it'd be appreciated.

Ralph Gillions · Post by **Ralph Gillions** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:37 pm

Jeffrey Burgin wrote: If someone can smuggle me out in one of the goody bags, it'd be appreciated.

What a goody bag that would be!
(Sorry Jeffrey I couldn't help myself.)

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:45 pm

Jeffrey Burgin wrote:as I started uni on the 5th October I haven't really had any time to spare what with general socialising/getting slashed and chasing clunge.

If any owners of said clunge have seen the Facebook photo to which Matt has just drawn my attention, I imagine it's not you but they who'll be doing the chasing.