Lady Gaga
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:43 pm
I seem to have started to like Lady Gaga is this wrong ?
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You don't have to think about it for too long to realise that this particular rumour is extremely unlikely to be true.Jon Corby wrote:Rumour is ...
Presumably that's because it's true, and not an urban legend. QED, bitches.Colin Wood wrote:Incidentally, the rumour doesn't even make this week's top twenty five Urban Legends.
So, it should be ..."Pecker Face"?Jon Corby wrote:Rumour is she has a pecker.
If you had looked at the list you will have seen that some of the Urban Legends were flagged as true. In fact, if you look up the definition you will see that urban legends are not necessarily untrue.Michael Wallace wrote:Presumably that's because it's true, and not an urban legend. QED, bitches.Colin Wood wrote:Incidentally, the rumour doesn't even make this week's top twenty five Urban Legends.
So you think it's a rumour too. So what.Charlie Reams wrote:I'm with Corby on this one.
I have to say that I find your post very offensive.Phil Reynolds wrote:
Clearly I need to start adding more emoticons to my jokes.Colin Wood wrote:If you had looked at the list you will have seen that some of the Urban Legends were flagged as true. In fact, if you look up the definition you will see that urban legends are not necessarily untrue.
Why is that offensive? (and why is it a 'personal insult'?)Colin Wood wrote:I have to say that I find your post very offensive.Phil Reynolds wrote:If Colin Wood has a stiffy, does that make it a Woody Wood Pecker?
I thought she had actually said she was a hermaphrodite in an interview, although I didn't actually pay much attention because she strikes me as the kind of person who wouldn't care about saying stuff like that for lulz.Colin Wood wrote:You don't have to think about it for too long to realise that this particular rumour is extremely unlikely to be true.Jon Corby wrote:Rumour is ...
GaGa is very successful and there are a lot of jealous people out there who could maliciously have started such a rumour.
Incidentally, the rumour doesn't even make this week's top twenty five Urban Legends.
Your post is increasing in size, originally it only had the emoticons bit in it. No worries on that one.Michael Wallace wrote:Clearly I need to start adding more emoticons to my jokes.Colin Wood wrote:If you had looked at the list you will have seen that some of the Urban Legends were flagged as true. In fact, if you look up the definition you will see that urban legends are not necessarily untrue.![]()
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Why is that offensive? (and why is it a 'personal insult'?)Colin Wood wrote:I have to say that I find your post very offensive.Phil Reynolds wrote:If Colin Wood has a stiffy, does that make it a Woody Wood Pecker?
Jon Corby wrote:I thought she had actually said she was a hermaphrodite in an interview, although I didn't actually pay much attention because she strikes me as the kind of person who wouldn't care about saying stuff like that for lulz.Colin Wood wrote:You don't have to think about it for too long to realise that this particular rumour is extremely unlikely to be true.Jon Corby wrote:Rumour is ...
GaGa is very successful and there are a lot of jealous people out there who could maliciously have started such a rumour.
Incidentally, the rumour doesn't even make this week's top twenty five Urban Legends.
It wasn't meant as a negative! I saw her supporting Take That last month, and she was great.
With the name Wood, there are only specific occasions when a joke can be made, such as the one where "pecker" and "Wood" were in the same discussion, which Phil picked up on.Colin Wood wrote:I personally wouldn't dream of making that sort of personal comment out of the blue on an internet forum. I guess we have different values.
It wasn't meant to offend, but people can be offended by anything they choose so one can't legislate for that. However, my post wasn't a personal comment - it was just a pun on your name. It could have been anyone's name; it just so happened that (as the ever-sensible Dez has already pointed out) the juxtaposition of the words "wood" and "pecker" in the same thread was an open invitation to people like me who delight in puerile ribaldry. Sorry you took it personally. You'll read far more genuinely offensive material if you look around these forums more closely, believe me.Colin Wood wrote:I personally wouldn't dream of making that sort of personal comment out of the blue on an internet forum. I guess we have different values.Michael Wallace wrote:Why is that offensive? (and why is it a 'personal insult'?)
OK I've had a think about it. It's not the kind of comment I would make and if I feel I'm under attack, sometimes the red mist descends.Phil Reynolds wrote:It wasn't meant to offend, but people can be offended by anything they choose so one can't legislate for that. However, my post wasn't a personal comment - it was just a pun on your name. It could have been anyone's name; it just so happened that (as the ever-sensible Dez has already pointed out) the juxtaposition of the words "wood" and "pecker" in the same thread was an open invitation to people like me who delight in puerile ribaldry. Sorry you took it personally. You'll read far more genuinely offensive material if you look around these forums more closely, believe me.Colin Wood wrote:I personally wouldn't dream of making that sort of personal comment out of the blue on an internet forum. I guess we have different values.Michael Wallace wrote:Why is that offensive? (and why is it a 'personal insult'?)
Heh, that one was going around when I was at school, except it was about Marc Almond, what with Lil' Kim not having been invented yet. I can readily believe it of either of them, mind you.Jeffrey Burgin wrote:Wasn't Ciara an actual confirmed hermaphrodite? I'm sure that was a genuine one. Probably my second favourite R'n'B female artist rumour after the one about Lil' Kim having her stomach pumped due to over-excessive ingestion of, er, certain 'bodily fluids'. Let's just say she's a spunky character, that one.
It was also going round at my school. You need a lot of young males to "pull off" a stunt like that.JimBentley wrote:Heh, that one was going around when I was at school, except it was about Marc Almond, what with Lil' Kim not having been invented yet. I can readily believe it of either of them, mind you.Jeffrey Burgin wrote:Wasn't Ciara an actual confirmed hermaphrodite? I'm sure that was a genuine one. Probably my second favourite R'n'B female artist rumour after the one about Lil' Kim having her stomach pumped due to over-excessive ingestion of, er, certain 'bodily fluids'. Let's just say she's a spunky character, that one.
No-one ever really talks to one another like that, I am extremely shocked at Phil's post. If I were you I'd feel seriously aggrieved.Colin Wood wrote:
OK I've had a think about it. It's not the kind of comment I would make and if I feel I'm under attack, sometimes the red mist descends.
Derek Hazell says that you guys make these sort of comments about each other all the time. You're a smart guy and you like to show it with your comments, right. I'm the new guy round here so it's a case of "When in Rome". If I don't like it I know what I can do. I can accept that.
As far as I'm concerned, the entire incident is forgotten.
I agree. Plus "forgetting about the incident" just makes you look weak, and will probably encourage other bullies of Phil's ilk to pick on you.David O'Donnell wrote:No-one ever really talks to one another like that, I am extremely shocked at Phil's post. If I were you I'd feel seriously aggrieved.Colin Wood wrote:
OK I've had a think about it. It's not the kind of comment I would make and if I feel I'm under attack, sometimes the red mist descends.
Derek Hazell says that you guys make these sort of comments about each other all the time. You're a smart guy and you like to show it with your comments, right. I'm the new guy round here so it's a case of "When in Rome". If I don't like it I know what I can do. I can accept that.
As far as I'm concerned, the entire incident is forgotten.
I understand your feelings Colin, and when I first joined this Forum, I found it a bit of a cultural shock. that was surprising to me, because I'm not the teeniest bit cultured. This Forum is used by different Generations, with different attitudes, musical tastes, humour and different sexual preferences, and some comments and jokes may cause offence. I also have a complaint. Just because I am a poor, feeble and frail old man with no teeth, the young nippers writing on this Forum make comments about me. But I can see through their cunning plan. They are hoping that I will die laughing. they will not succeed, because I have the perfect defence, I have the ability to laugh at myself, and little do they know how much I enjoy their comments. My two daughters came visiting this week, and relating to the subject that we talked about, I mentioned that "my dick doesn't work anymore". the girls and my Wife went hysterical with laughter. If I had said something like that to my Mother, she'd have fainted with embarrassment. This illustrates the difference with attitudes of then and now, and why I accept the open-ness of the Forum as the modern attitude. That doesn't mean that I intend to join in with their coarse humour. Wait a minute though, I think I just did.Colin Wood wrote:I have to say that I find your post very offensive.Phil Reynolds wrote:
I didn't know that personal insults about other members were allowed on forums like this but I am checking on it.
Wow, I genuinely thought Kel was dead, except that he died from a heart attack and I always thought it strange that it was the thin one who died from a heart attack.Ben Hunter wrote: Other people who died when I was in year 7 included Dan Castellaneta (in a car crash) and Kel from Keanan and Kel (shot by gangstas for not acting black enough).
Bumping this thread up after a while, but going off what Jason said, Love Game was banned by Channel Ten's Video Hits programme in Australia because of that disco stick line, as Ten's in house censors thought it was too sexually explicit.JasonCullen wrote:Disappointed that GaGa's original music video of her latest video "Love Game" was heavily edited from a soft porno to a bog-standard one! But the cut version still will raise a few eyebrows for many and I'm surprised the reference to "I wanna take a ride on your disco stick" is not silenced out yet "bust that kick" is. Oh well...still thinks she's great
Feel free to moderate your own posts according to your own taste, but in general this is the Internet and it's not a kids' playground. Those kids who do use this place (there aren't many) do so under moderation from their parents. Those who aren't are likely to encounter stronger material than some song lyrics about dicks.AndyB2007 wrote:I'm unable to repeat due to this forum having youngsters on here.
*looks around nervously*Charlie Reams wrote:Those kids who do use this place (there aren't many) do so under moderation from their parents.
Thanks Charlie. I wasn't sure whether to mention the lyrics in case they were youngsters on here who might be offended.Charlie Reams wrote:Feel free to moderate your own posts according to your own taste, but in general this is the Internet and it's not a kids' playground. Those kids who do use this place (there aren't many) do so under moderation from their parents. Those who aren't are likely to encounter stronger material than some song lyrics about dicks.AndyB2007 wrote:I'm unable to repeat due to this forum having youngsters on here.
I'm sure you realised this, Jim, but for those who didn't, the song is intended as a feminist response to Too $hort's My Dick, My Sack.JimBentley wrote:Oh god I'd forgotten how funny this was in the unexpurgated version (it was only ever the very very heavily edited radio version that got played when it was in the charts). "Lick my pussy and my crack" is the best ridiculous single entendre in a song since "darling, come here, fuck me up the rear". Sorry Kai etc.
I honestly didn't know that! This knowledge enriches me in ways that I can't quite specify, but I definitely feel enriched.Charlie Reams wrote:I'm sure you realised this, Jim, but for those who didn't, the song is intended as a feminist response to Too $hort's My Dick, My Sack.JimBentley wrote:Oh god I'd forgotten how funny this was in the unexpurgated version (it was only ever the very very heavily edited radio version that got played when it was in the charts). "Lick my pussy and my crack" is the best ridiculous single entendre in a song since "darling, come here, fuck me up the rear". Sorry Kai etc.
Talking of enriching knowledge, I suspect that the precise message of feminism may have been somewhat lost on Ms. K.JimBentley wrote:I honestly didn't know that! This knowledge enriches me in ways that I can't quite specify, but I definitely feel enriched.Charlie Reams wrote: I'm sure you realised this, Jim, but for those who didn't, the song is intended as a feminist response to Too $hort's My Dick, My Sack.
Charlie, the Khia/Too Short thing reminds me of other response songs:Charlie Reams wrote:I'm sure you realised this, Jim, but for those who didn't, the song is intended as a feminist response to Too $hort's My Dick, My Sack.JimBentley wrote:Oh god I'd forgotten how funny this was in the unexpurgated version (it was only ever the very very heavily edited radio version that got played when it was in the charts). "Lick my pussy and my crack" is the best ridiculous single entendre in a song since "darling, come here, fuck me up the rear". Sorry Kai etc.
Indeed, the world of hiphop is full of such allusions, often subtler than replacing "dick" with "pussy" and then doing a shitty rap over the same beat. From the outside this probably sounds derivative but, when done well, it's no different to the clever and pleasing homages of Tarantino or Hofstadter. But of course poor people like rap so it's probably not worth the attention of us more educated types.AndyB2007 wrote: Charlie, the Khia/Too Short thing reminds me of other response songs:
The 2004 song F.U.R.B by Frankee was a response to Eamon's I Don't Want You Back, You Should Really Know by The Pirates featuring Shola Ama, Enya, Naila Boss and Ishani was a response to I Don't Wanna Know by Mario Winans feat P Diddy and Enya, whilst No Pigeons by Sporty Thievz was a response to No Scrubs by TLC. Not to mention Cheat Again by Jamie Jay, a response to Beat Again by JLS.
Hope that helps.
Great info, Andy. An abarndance of musical curiosities.AndyB2007 wrote:Charlie, the Khia/Too Short thing reminds me of other response songs:Charlie Reams wrote:I'm sure you realised this, Jim, but for those who didn't, the song is intended as a feminist response to Too $hort's My Dick, My Sack.JimBentley wrote:Oh god I'd forgotten how funny this was in the unexpurgated version (it was only ever the very very heavily edited radio version that got played when it was in the charts). "Lick my pussy and my crack" is the best ridiculous single entendre in a song since "darling, come here, fuck me up the rear". Sorry Kai etc.
The 2004 song F.U.R.B by Frankee was a response to Eamon's I Don't Want You Back, You Should Really Know by The Pirates featuring Shola Ama, Enya, Naila Boss and Ishani was a response to I Don't Wanna Know by Mario Winans feat P Diddy and Enya, whilst No Pigeons by Sporty Thievz was a response to No Scrubs by TLC. Not to mention Cheat Again by Jamie Jay, a response to Beat Again by JLS.
Hope that helps.
I think she feels empowered by being able to use sex to control - at least in some small ways, perhaps the ways that matter to her - the thugs and niggas that otherwise would try to control her. And of course it's going to piss the other bitches off, which is always a bonus.Charlie Reams wrote:Talking of enriching knowledge, I suspect that the precise message of feminism may have been somewhat lost on Ms. K.
Yeah, I meant more that feminism was supposed to be about allowing women to do the same things as men, rather than obliging them to be exactly as obnoxious and sexually naive.JimBentley wrote:I think she feels empowered by being able to use sex to control - at least in some small ways, perhaps the ways that matter to her - the thugs and niggas that otherwise would try to control her. And of course it's going to piss the other bitches off, which is always a bonus.Charlie Reams wrote:Talking of enriching knowledge, I suspect that the precise message of feminism may have been somewhat lost on Ms. K.
Comparing this to the positive sentiments generally expressed in music during the sixties and seventies, have I become an old fuddy-duddy to think that we, as a society, are doomed?JimBentley wrote:I think she feels empowered by being able to use sex to control - at least in some small ways, perhaps the ways that matter to her - the thugs and niggas that otherwise would try to control her. And of course it's going to piss the other bitches off, which is always a bonus.Charlie Reams wrote:Talking of enriching knowledge, I suspect that the precise message of feminism may have been somewhat lost on Ms. K.
I don't know about fuddy-daddy, but maybe naive. Many (in fact, more) people at that time had similar negative life experiences to those discussed in hip-hop, but had no creative outlet for their experiences, and could not even have aspired to a career in music.Alec Rivers wrote: Comparing this to the positive sentiments generally expressed in music during the sixties and seventies, have I become an old fuddy-duddy to think that we, as a society, are doomed?
Story of my life.Charlie Reams wrote:I don't know about fuddy-daddy [sic], but maybe naive.
Hmm, good point. Ta.Charlie Reams wrote:Many (in fact, more) people at that time had similar negative life experiences to those discussed in hip-hop, but had no creative outlet for their experiences, and could not even have aspired to a career in music.
Of course Boney M were not what they seemed- only 2 out of the 4 members sang on the tracks, Marcia Barrett and Liz Mitchell . Bobby Farrell's vocals were done by Frank Farian (who went on to form Milli Vanilli, and look how that turned out, when we found out that the 2 men in the videos actually never sang-to be honest it's been happening after Milli Vanilli, with dance acts such as C&C Music Factory, Black Box, Cappella,etc using younger women to mime to someone else's vocals in their videos without giving credit to the singer) and Maizie Williams never sang.Derek Hazell wrote:My sister took me shopping on Saturday.
On the way, she played me the Lady Gaga album in her car.
When "Poker Face" came on, she mentioned how boys like to interpret that lyric as "poke her face". We giggled a little.
I then told her about how it sampled the Boney M song "Ma Baker". When we got home I played her said song on my laptop.
She said she preferred Lady Gaga.
Not yet, but I should.Alec Rivers wrote:Andy, have you bought that second cabinet for your pop quiz trophies yet?
This is my new favourite way of highlighting a typo.Alec Rivers wrote:Story of my life.Charlie Reams wrote:I don't know about fuddy-daddy [sic], but maybe naive.
That's not to say, by the way, that I think all "negative" music is good. I don't much like 50 Cent's music, for example, because I think he romanticises a lifestyle which he clearly didn't like that much, or he'd still be selling crack instead of making songs. He's actually a smart guy (listen to his audiobook The 50th Law if you doubt this) and quite openly admits to making childish songs because they shift copies. I'd like to see such traditional-mould gangsta rappers try to advance the art form, but maybe the market isn't right for it yet.Charlie Reams wrote:Many (in fact, more) people at that time had similar negative life experiences to those discussed in hip-hop, but had no creative outlet for their experiences, and could not even have aspired to a career in music.
'[/sarcasm]'? (You have to spell it out for me, I'm afraid.)Charlie Reams wrote:This is my new favourite way of highlighting a typo.Alec Rivers wrote:Story of my life.Charlie Reams wrote:I don't know about fuddy-daddy [sic], but maybe naive.
Nope, I was genuinely amused by the offhandness.Alec Rivers wrote:'[/sarcasm]'? (You have to spell it out for me, I'm afraid.)