Spoilers for Wednesday July 1st
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:40 pm
Alternative 1st numbers:
25 x (9 + 7) + 10 + 1
25 x (9 + 7) + 10 + 1
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How about slipping it in a conundrum APTEROUS+1Kirk Bevins wrote:Well played Innis. Another lightning conundrum. It's about time we name-dropped apterous! We need it being plugged!
APTEROUSM and APTEROUSD would both be fairly reasonable; APTERROUS and APTEROUSL are other options but maybe too hard.Marc Meakin wrote:How about slipping it in a conundrum APTEROUS+1Kirk Bevins wrote:Well played Innis. Another lightning conundrum. It's about time we name-dropped apterous! We need it being plugged!
I actually found APTERROUS far easier than APTEROUSD. Horses for courses, I suppose. (And I'm hardly the best!)Charlie Reams wrote:APTEROUSM and APTEROUSD would both be fairly reasonable; APTERROUS and APTEROUSL are other options but maybe too hard.Marc Meakin wrote:How about slipping it in a conundrum APTEROUS+1Kirk Bevins wrote:Well played Innis. Another lightning conundrum. It's about time we name-dropped apterous! We need it being plugged!
IAWTP My favourite bit when we went to see the recordingJunaid Mubeen wrote:Loved the pre-game interview with Innis. Smooth.
Rich and I chatted with Innis after filming this one and I think he said he spotted it too late. MIASMA was a nice round 3 equaller. Ashamedly I missed STORIATED in the studio and would have risked TWOTONE^ in round 6, although it is a nice non-word, so is SOAPFEST^ in round 12Chris Kirby wrote:DC beater in round 13.. dapsone.
I just assumed you swapped shirts at the end.Innis Carson wrote:Very observant people might have noticed that Martyn Brewer was wearing my shirt from today on Friday. Result of a slight wardrobe mix-up.
A player who knows he is going to lose may still want to maximise his score. If he normally gets his best results with six small it seems reasonable to go for it in this situation. His primary concern is not going to be the other fellow's score.JackHurst wrote:It's been a little bit annoying to see Innis's chance of a high octo score being not jeopardised, but perhaps slightly dampened by players choosing six small when they have no chance of winning. Today was a good example. Its nice to see it when a player is within reasonable range and they want to make an advance, but when they are doing it from so far behind, i just think that all they are doing is putting the chance of a high score in danger, which is ultimately the thing which i would like to see on a show. Perhaps the last numbers was the worst, considering he had gotten nothing on the previous six small, and that he was definitely going to lose.
In regards especially to the third numbers, im not sure what to see this as. I suppose the two ends of the spectrum are a bitter opponent who wants to spoil the other players chances of getting a century. Or just someone who very fairly sees it as a chance to pick thier favourite variety of numbers regardless of the situation, because its their appearance on the show, and they want to make the most of it. I feel todays (as in wednesdays) opponent fell slightly into the first side of the spectrum.
What do any of you think?
I assume by maximising score, you mean making your score as high as possible, and not making the margin of loss as small as possible.Rosemary Roberts wrote: A player who knows he is going to lose may still want to maximise his score. If he normally gets his best results with six small it seems reasonable to go for it in this situation. His primary concern is not going to be the other fellow's score.
Spot on.Paul Howe wrote:I really don't get the idea that once someone is beaten they should just bend over and concentrate on helping their opponent to an even higher score. Perhaps they should also refrain from offering winning words if they happen to find one, and not bother trying on the conundrum?
Regardless of motivation, its their last (and probably only) appearance on the show, and they have the right to pick whatever they want.
Paul Howe wrote:I really don't get the idea that once someone is beaten they should just bend over and concentrate on helping their opponent to an even higher score. Perhaps they should also refrain from offering winning words if they happen to find one, and not bother trying on the conundrum?
Regardless of motivation, its their last (and probably only) appearance on the show, and they have the right to pick whatever they want.
The difference is, picking 1 large doesn't cost you anything, and most of the people at home will be more impressed with a high losing score than some elaborate 6 small method. I know this is something of a moot point because most of the contestants don't analyse the game closely enough to tell the difference, but still. I think if you've trained hard at some particular thing (like 4 large) then of course you want to have a chance to show it off even if you're about to lose, which is fair enough, but most people aren't in that position either. A good example is the guy who picked 4 large when Kirk was on for a huge score; what was the point of that? He obviously wasn't any good at 4 large, he lost the round anyway, and only succeeded in making the score 0-7 instead of a likely 10-10.Paul Howe wrote:I really don't get the idea that once someone is beaten they should just bend over and concentrate on helping their opponent to an even higher score. Perhaps they should also refrain from offering winning words if they happen to find one, and not bother trying on the conundrum?
It is just possible that contestants might want to see just how good their opponents all round game is, I sometimes do this on Apterous when I am invariably getting trounced by the big gunsCharlie Reams wrote:The difference is, picking 1 large doesn't cost you anything, and most of the people at home will be more impressed with a high losing score than some elaborate 6 small method. I know this is something of a moot point because most of the contestants don't analyse the game closely enough to tell the difference, but still. I think if you've trained hard at some particular thing (like 4 large) then of course you want to have a chance to show it off even if you're about to lose, which is fair enough, but most people aren't in that position either. A good example is the guy who picked 4 large when Kirk was on for a huge score; what was the point of that? He obviously wasn't any good at 4 large, he lost the round anyway, and only succeeded in making the score 0-7 instead of a likely 10-10.Paul Howe wrote:I really don't get the idea that once someone is beaten they should just bend over and concentrate on helping their opponent to an even higher score. Perhaps they should also refrain from offering winning words if they happen to find one, and not bother trying on the conundrum?
Its easy to imagine someone who's just been smashed on their big day on TV trying to grab some glory for themselves by pulling off a tricky numbers and maybe taking a round off an awesome opponent. For someone with no realistic chance of an octo run, that moment might provide a great deal more satisfaction than just going for an easier 10 points. Maybe they just want the chance to do an unusual numbers game on TV. Who really knows? The point being it's their moment in the sun too, and to me it seems just as petty for us to pick apart their motivations as it is for them to make it slightly harder for their opponent in the cases where there actually is malicious intent.Charlie Reams wrote: The difference is, picking 1 large doesn't cost you anything, and most of the people at home will be more impressed with a high losing score than some elaborate 6 small method. I know this is something of a moot point because most of the contestants don't analyse the game closely enough to tell the difference, but still. I think if you've trained hard at some particular thing (like 4 large) then of course you want to have a chance to show it off even if you're about to lose, which is fair enough, but most people aren't in that position either. A good example is the guy who picked 4 large when Kirk was on for a huge score; what was the point of that? He obviously wasn't any good at 4 large, he lost the round anyway, and only succeeded in making the score 0-7 instead of a likely 10-10.
Yes, that's what I said!Davy Affleck wrote:Paul Howe wrote:I really don't get the idea that once someone is beaten they should just bend over and concentrate on helping their opponent to an even higher score. Perhaps they should also refrain from offering winning words if they happen to find one, and not bother trying on the conundrum?
Regardless of motivation, its their last (and probably only) appearance on the show, and they have the right to pick whatever they want.
It's not all about helping the opponent to shine. Why should the "loser" roll over and get another kick in the nuts?
Should they also not buzz in for the conundrum in case they beat their opponent?
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