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Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:59 pm
by Andrew Feist
General reminders: All matches are to be Standard 15, best-of-three. Everyone will be scheduled for one match a week for the next five weeks. These are the matches for week 1; post results in this thread please.
Open: (Swiss system, accelerated pairings) (4 games left of 20!)
Kirk Bevins 2-0 James Hurrell
Oliver Garner 0-2 Junaid Mubeen
Jon Corby 2-1 Ben Wilson
Martin May 1-2 Charlie Reams
Innis Carson 2-0 Jack Hurst
Jim Bentley 1-2 Dinos Sfyris
Kai Laddiman 1-2 Neil Zussman
Matt Bayfield 0-2 David O'Donnell
Andrew Hulme - Richard Priest
Ian Volante 0-2 Damian Eadie
Ross Allatt 2-1 Simon Myers
Paul Erdunast 1-2 Donald Gordon
Henry Meier 1-2 Matt Morrison
Mark Harrison 2-0 Jay Murphy
Julie Russell 1-2 James Doohan
Peter Lee - James Levison
Marc Meakin 1-2 Andy Kravis
Aaron Higgs 2-0 Niall Seymour
Ian Dent 1-1 Jeff Burgin
Tom Rowell - Ben Ziek
U1200: (Swiss system) (1 games left of 14)
Barry Evans 0-2 Jeff Burgin
Tom Rowell 0-2 Matthew Green
Ross Allatt 1-2 Paul Erdunast
Simon Myers 2-1 Donald Gordon
Henry Meier 1-2 Daniel O'Dowd
Jay Murphy 0-2 Marcus Hares
Mark Harrison 0-2 Matt Morrison
Peter Crawley 0-2 James Doohan
Tyron Potts - Liam Tiernan
Shaun Hegarty 1-2 Peter Lee
Jeff Clayton 2-1 Rob Thomas
Phil Collinge 0-2 Andy Kravis
Aaron Higgs 2-0 Andy Wilson
Ian Dent 0-2 Lesley Hines
U1000: (Pools with crossover SEE NOTE BELOW)
Liam Tiernan 2-0 Ian Dent
James Hall 2-0 Andy Wilson
Julie Russell 2-0 Phil Collinge
Jason Turner 2-0 James Levison
Shaun Hegarty 2-1 Niall Seymour
U800: (Pools with crossover SEE NOTE BELOW)
Ian Dent 2-0 James Leroux
Gregor Morgan 1-2 Ben Ziek
Maxine Silkstone 2-0 Steve Rogers
Adam Dexter - Supee Juachan
NOTE FOR U1000: Your crossover games are based on rating, not performance; hence an additional crossover game may need to be played in week 5. Beep repaired.
NOTE FOR U800: You will play a round-robin in two pools of four, then crossover matches based on performance (the top two from pool 1 will play the top two from pool 2, and ditto for the bottom two). That means that final rankings will not be based solely on record; the four top-two finishers will finish in the top four places and the four bottom-two finishers will finish in the bottom four places.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:06 pm
by Shaun Hegarty
Just so I'm totally clear on it, what exactly is meant by crossover games? Maybe I'm being a bit dim, but I feel like I'm missing something.
Also, cheers for the effort and work you've put into this, seriously.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:28 pm
by Andrew Feist
Shaun Hegarty wrote:Just so I'm totally clear on it, what exactly is meant by crossover games? Maybe I'm being a bit dim, but I feel like I'm missing something.
Also, cheers for the effort and work you've put into this, seriously.
Crossover games are games you play against people in the other pool.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:43 pm
by Shaun Hegarty
Ah, that's what I was thinking, but I couldn't figure it out because of the general mixing of people in the pools anyway. Cheers.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:31 am
by Daniel O'Dowd
First results! Very very close games all three, and the third in particular is of merit for its extremely interesting max words.
O'Dowd 2-1 Meier:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79032
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79052
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79063
ETA: Question: how will you be ranking those on the same number of points: initial ranking, points scored across all games, or spread? (If the latter two, I'm guessing you prefer this as an absolute skill ranking despite potentially some people playing one more game than others in matches)
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:51 am
by Andrew Feist
Daniel O'Dowd wrote:
ETA: Question: how will you be ranking those on the same number of points: initial ranking, points scored across all games, or spread? (If the latter two, I'm guessing you prefer this as an absolute skill ranking despite potentially some people playing one more game than others in matches)
First tiebreaker is games won/lost percentage, second tiebreaker is points/game.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:48 am
by Jon Corby
Do you still play the 3rd match if someone's 2-0 up?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:28 am
by JackHurst
Jon Corby wrote:Do you still play the 3rd match if someone's 2-0 up?
I dont quite know how swiss pairing works, but if its anything similar to what was used in the last aptobash im guessing you might need to play all three games in order to calculate the spread thing. (whatever that is)
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:07 pm
by Matthew Green
Tom, Im gonna leave my CPU on apterous all day so just challenge me if you wanna play.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:13 pm
by Daniel O'Dowd
Jon Corby wrote:Do you still play the 3rd match if someone's 2-0 up?
Andrew told me that you can if you want, but it won't be counted towards results.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:29 pm
by Andrew Feist
Daniel O'Dowd wrote:Jon Corby wrote:Do you still play the 3rd match if someone's 2-0 up?
Andrew told me that you can if you want, but it won't be counted towards results.
Right. The goal is to get to two wins, so the results will either be 2-0 or 2-1. The points tiebreaker will be points/game, so you shouldn't fear "only" playing two games.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:49 pm
by Charlie Reams
Martin, I'm online most of the time, match me when you want to play.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:12 pm
by David O'Donnell
Charlie Reams wrote:Martin, I'm online most of the time, match me when you want to play.
I will be doing likewise, Matt.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:48 pm
by Ian Dent
Jeff Burgin - when might I find you?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:51 pm
by Ben Wilson
Corby, name your time and your place (except for tomorrow evening that is).
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:20 pm
by Maxine Silkstone
Calling Steve Rogers.....When's good for you?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:29 pm
by Matt Morrison
When did public forum posts become the new private messages?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:40 pm
by Maxine Silkstone
Matt Morrison wrote:When did public forum posts become the new private messages?
When the new numpties on them have no idea how to do private messages coz none of the clever buggers already in there give any instructions!
Edited: Ok, Ok, I'm a lazy numpty, just had a wade around and figured out PM's (now i know they exist)and a really handy thingy called FAQ. Thanks for the prod, clever bugger! Can I have some custard with my humble pie please?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:46 pm
by Ian Dent
No need for that really.
Has any harm been done?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:40 pm
by Matt Morrison
Maxine Silkstone wrote:just had a wade around and figured out PM's (now i know they exist)and a really handy thingy called FAQ. Thanks for the prod, clever bugger! Can I have some custard with my humble pie please?
Haha! Sorry Maxine, wasn't a prod at you at all! Was just tipsy off my gran's champagne and wanted to have a go at everyone. On a positive note, you've inspired me to develop a page in the apterous help section to cover tips for using the forum. At some point.
Ian Dent wrote:No need for that really.
Has any harm been done?
Less of your cheek Denty.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:46 pm
by jason turner
u1000, section,
Jason Turner 2-0 James Levison
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:55 pm
by J.Levison
Me and Jason Turner have played our U-1000 match. Jason winning all three. Weren't sure as to weather we play all three or not, but thats been cleared up after looking at the other posts in this thread.
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79518
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79531
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=79546
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:56 pm
by Marcus Hares
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:12 pm
by James Hurrell
Oh crap. What did I do (or not do) to deserve that draw??
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:22 pm
by Andrew Feist
James Hurrell wrote:Oh crap. What did I do (or not do) to deserve that draw??
Look at it this way: at the cost of starting 0-1, you've guaranteed yourself not to have to play Kirk the rest of the way.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:45 pm
by Jeffrey Burgin
Ian Dent wrote:Jeff Burgin - when might I find you?
Usually in the evenings from 8.30-9.30, I'm on now if you fancy it.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:16 pm
by Aaron Higgs
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:24 pm
by Andy Wilson
Ian Dent wrote:No need for that really.
Has any harm been done?
Well, it does mean Andrew has to scroll through some irrelevant stuff to find results. Perhaps we should yap about it in another thread and leave this one just for results, to make it a little easier on the Feisty one.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:58 am
by Matt Bayfield
David O'D: I tend to be on apterous between 8 am and 9 am, noon and 1 pm, and 5 pm and 6 pm. If I haven't spotted you online after a couple of days, please look out for me.
Cheers--
Matt
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:35 am
by Lesley Hines
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:53 pm
by Andy Kravis
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:00 pm
by Marc Meakin
Yeah well played Andy
The fact that you got all three conundrums explains why I tend to lose the close ones
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:53 pm
by Ian Volante
Tough battles, but Damian sunk me in the end:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=80032
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=80041
If only I'd not missed an easy seven early in the first game, I'd have got beat on a tiebreak instead...
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:02 pm
by Donald Gordon
Results from my games with Paul Erdunast (2-1 to me) from the open:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=80024
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=80034
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=80045
some great games, cheers paul, especially the first one with a max of 160!
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:31 pm
by Andrew Feist
I've edited in the results that I've got noted.
Also: I realized that I did not quite say what I meant regarding the first tiebreaker. For example, two people might be tied at 4-1 in match play; one could have a game record of 9-4, while the other a record of 8-3. For my purposes, those two players are still tied as far as game record goes (even though the first has a permillage of 0.692 and the second 0.727). A more accurate claim would be that the first tiebreaker is "games above .500" or "net games" or even "treat the record like a subtraction problem". Sorry for the confusion.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:05 pm
by Matt Bayfield
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:15 pm
by Matthew Green
Where you at Tom? Come and face me, son of Jor-El, kneel before Fritzl!
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:05 pm
by James Doohan
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:30 pm
by James Hall
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:11 am
by Matt Bayfield
Oh pants. I'm really sorry about this, but I think I'm going to have to withdraw from the competition.
Because of an unexpected development at work (one of my job hazards is having to move at ultra short notice), this afternoon I will move to an office where I will have no access to apterous. This means I won't be around for the foreseeable future, at least until I get net access at home again (which might be a while since I currently don't own a working computer).
Apologies Andrew, for messing up your tourney... and if I'm not around for a while, then thank you to the apto-people I've played over the month or two I've been here. It might take a while, but I'll be back as soon as I get the opportunity.
Best wishes all.
--Matt
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:25 am
by Jeffrey Burgin
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:39 pm
by Shaun Hegarty
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:33 pm
by Andrew Feist
Matt Bayfield wrote:Oh pants. I'm really sorry about this, but I think I'm going to have to withdraw from the competition.
Because of an unexpected development at work (one of my job hazards is having to move at ultra short notice), this afternoon I will move to an office where I will have no access to apterous. This means I won't be around for the foreseeable future, at least until I get net access at home again (which might be a while since I currently don't own a working computer).
Apologies Andrew, for messing up your tourney... and if I'm not around for a while, then thank you to the apto-people I've played over the month or two I've been here. It might take a while, but I'll be back as soon as I get the opportunity.
Best wishes all.
--Matt
I guess I will then step in to take the extra place.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 6:51 pm
by Phil Collinge
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:33 pm
by Maxine Silkstone
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:42 pm
by James Doohan
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:41 pm
by Jeff Clayton
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:42 pm
by Junaid Mubeen
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:43 pm
by Charlie Reams
Christine Russell wants to play if you have a vacancy.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:29 pm
by Charlie Reams
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:08 pm
by Shaun Hegarty
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:08 pm
by Simon Myers
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:33 pm
by Matthew Green
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:58 pm
by Jon Corby
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:24 am
by Simon Myers
Apt final two conundrums!
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:58 am
by James Hurrell
Kirk - some time before 4 today would be good - don't think I'll be able to fit this in otherwise. I am usually on around 12:30-2
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:12 am
by Kirk Bevins
James Hurrell wrote:Kirk - some time before 4 today would be good - don't think I'll be able to fit this in otherwise. I am usually on around 12:30-2
I've sent you a private message - I'm at school teaching and we can't get apterous to work - it's blocked. On an evening or at a weekend is best for me. Can't you play on Saturday or Sunday say?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 11:58 am
by Matt Morrison
Kirk Bevins wrote:I'm at school teaching and we can't get apterous to work - it's blocked.
Kirk, has it always been blocked just because it's a java game, or has it specifically been outlawed since your Countdown fame, so as not to distract any kids who want to follow in your footsteps?
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:06 pm
by Kirk Bevins
Matt Morrison wrote:Kirk Bevins wrote:I'm at school teaching and we can't get apterous to work - it's blocked.
Kirk, has it always been blocked just because it's a java game, or has it specifically been outlawed since your Countdown fame, so as not to distract any kids who want to follow in your footsteps?
Has always been blocked.
Re: Apterous Summer Open Week 1
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:08 pm
by Matt Morrison
Kirk Bevins wrote:Matt Morrison wrote:Kirk Bevins wrote:I'm at school teaching and we can't get apterous to work - it's blocked.
Kirk, has it always been blocked just because it's a java game, or has it specifically been outlawed since your Countdown fame, so as not to distract any kids who want to follow in your footsteps?
Has always been blocked.
You would have thought that Mr. IT would happily unblock it for you on a specific case basis to play in your lunchbreak. Unless the other staff don't trust you.