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have a look here - http://wiki.apterous.org/Mary

we know her first name was Mary, but the surname is uncertain

if she really was Mary Craig the was she also the keeper of the questions on mastermind?

Prompted by your thread, I decided to look this up.

A couple of seconds before Mary appears for the first time, there is a shot of the audience, and the women in that are thus the first women to appear on Channel 4, including - assuming they are a woman, never assume, etc - this really bored-looking one.



Then the mythical Mary appears in full Richard Ayoade cosplay:



Then appears Vorderman, who "works in computers", wearing brown on brown, accompanied by an insinuation that she has a "pretty good figure". What a show.



Anyway, I watched the entire episode, and Mary is neither mentioned, heard from nor seen again. What a career. So all we have to go on is that one picture above, and her silhouette in the outro.



The Mary Craig you refer to died recently and there is very little information about her to be found, nor images. She would have been 54 at the time of the show's recording, so, well done there, that's a good 54. Her obituary in the Telegraph includes this photo, which, when compared to the one above, definitely shows a likeness.



And if you turn a picture of her from the cover of one of her books into a silhouette and drop it on a blue background, there is a likeness there as well;



Mind you, if you turn a picture of Neil Warnock into a silhouette and drop it on a blue background, there's one there too:



So that's not really conclusive at all.

In conclusion - pass.

No way is she 54 there.

I tend to agree with you, but there does seem to be a facial likeness otherwise, so it's a poser.

Where did the "possibly Mary Craig" on the wiki actually come from?

Haha good work Mark.

I would say monochrome Mary has earlobes, whereas elixir of youth technicolor Mary does not.

Not the same person.

Fiona T wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:39 am I would say monochrome Mary has earlobes, whereas elixir of youth technicolor Mary does not.

Not the same person.

Yeah, I'm not sure I see much of a likeness anyway.

Unless this is just "White people all look the same racism". That would be a shame.

How much of your life do you spend trying to portray me as a racist? It's got to be about 46%, surely.

That was to Gev, by the way, not Fiona.

46% is a bit high. Maybe 46% of my waking life. Although I did try in that dream I had about the numbers game, but I didn't really get the right material to work with.

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:48 amWhere did the "possibly Mary Craig" on the wiki actually come from?

It is possible that she was the same Mary Craig who was Magnus Magnussen's scorer on Mastermind - again, her outline looks quite similar - although I don't think it's the Mary Craig Mark was referring to (the writer).