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David O'Donnell wrote:

Kai Laddiman wrote:One I made up:

Real run (5)

This has to be deceptively simple but I cannot get it. What is it, Kal?

LEGIT

LOL, very good !

I think these are too easy for a separate thread, so I'll post them here. The answer to these are all Famous Leaders or Rulers. Also, this is my first attempt at writing clues, so they might be a bit dodgy, or very easy.

No PMs required, just answers and explanations in a light font.

1) In Lourdes, Monday gives score draw.
2) Milking Jo is wrong.
3) Endless chat amidst transgression.
4) Farting Amir hides his bottom, then shows his rear, reportedly.
5) Little Anthony finds British fox's home.
6) Song about puritans?
7) An incomplete Mrs.Taylor and America head to palace.
8) Point us around to the plane driver we hear.
9) Lightning doesn't faze us.
10) Use short crowbar to fix tracer.

Please don't criticise too much if these aren't great, as I said, it is my first attempt.

N.B: About time someone bumped this thread.

Similarly:

Brittain's creation is 5/9 weird on the weirdness scale after mothers siege Moroccan city

1) LourDES, MONday gives score draw (2-2) = DESMOND TUTU
2) Milking Jo is wrong = KIM JONG IL (anagram of "Milking Jo")
4) GENGHIS KHAN (No idea about GENGHIS but Amir KHAN)
5) Little Anthony (TONY) finds British (B) fox's home (LAIR) = TONY BLAIR
6) Song about puritans = RASPUTIN (anagram of "puritans" indicated by "about" and a song by Boney M)
8) Point us around (PONTIUS) to the plane driver (PILOT) we hear = PONTIUS PILATE ("we hear" sounds like PILOT)

Ryan Taylor wrote:1) LourDES, MONday gives score draw (2-2) = DESMOND TUTU
2) Milking Jo is wrong = KIM JONG IL (anagram of "Milking Jo")
4) GENGHIS KHAN (No idea about GENGHIS but Amir KHAN)
5) Little Anthony (TONY) finds British (B) fox's home (LAIR) = TONY BLAIR
6) Song about puritans = RASPUTIN (anagram of "puritans" indicated by "about" and a song by Boney M)
8) Point us around (PONTIUS) to the plane driver (PILOT) we hear = PONTIUS PILATE ("we hear" sounds like PILOT)

You've got all those right except number 4, you're partially right with KHAN however.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:I think these are too easy for a separate thread, so I'll post them here. The answer to these are all Famous Leaders or Rulers. Also, this is my first attempt at writing clues, so they might be a bit dodgy, or very easy.

No PMs required, just answers and explanations in a light font.

1) In Lourdes, Monday gives score draw.
2) Milking Jo is wrong.
3) Endless chat amidst transgression.
4) Farting Amir hides his bottom, then shows his rear, reportedly.
5) Little Anthony finds British fox's home.
6) Song about puritans?
7) An incomplete Mrs.Taylor and America head to palace.
8) Point us around to the plane driver we hear.
9) Lightning doesn't faze us.
10) Use short crowbar to fix tracer.

Please don't criticise too much if these aren't great, as I said, it is my first attempt.

N.B: About time someone bumped this thread.

Seems like Ryan is the only one who cared about this, should I give the answers?

Eoin Monaghan wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:I think these are too easy for a separate thread, so I'll post them here. The answer to these are all Famous Leaders or Rulers. Also, this is my first attempt at writing clues, so they might be a bit dodgy, or very easy.

No PMs required, just answers and explanations in a light font.

1) In Lourdes, Monday gives score draw.
2) Milking Jo is wrong.
3) Endless chat amidst transgression.
4) Farting Amir hides his bottom, then shows his rear, reportedly.
5) Little Anthony finds British fox's home.
6) Song about puritans?
7) An incomplete Mrs.Taylor and America head to palace.
8) Point us around to the plane driver we hear.
9) Lightning doesn't faze us.
10) Use short crowbar to fix tracer.

Please don't criticise too much if these aren't great, as I said, it is my first attempt.

N.B: About time someone bumped this thread.

Seems like Ryan is the only one who cared about this, should I give the answers?

No not yet. Will have another look tomorrow morning assuming nobody else solves the remaining ones.

Dinos has PMed me a few correct answers, so I'll delay posting the answers.

Like Ryan I had 6 of them. I was getting nowhere on the other 4 so peeked at his answers. Between us we're only missing 3 and 9

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Like Ryan I had 6 of them. I was getting nowhere on the other 4 so peeked at his answers. Between us we're only missing 3 and 9

Just had a look at these. I've definitely got 3 and pretty sure I've got 9. I'll PM Eoin now.

Bob has 3 and 9 correct.

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Like Ryan I had 6 of them. I was getting nowhere on the other 4 so peeked at his answers. Between us we're only missing 3 and 9

Ryan had number 4 incorrect.

Answer time?

Yep go on then

OK, answers:

1) In LourDES, MONDay gives score draw (2-2) = Desmond Tutu
2) Milking Jo is wrong. = Kim Jong-Il (anagram of 'Milking Jo')
3) Endless chat amidst transgression. = Stalin (Endless chat is TAL (TALK-K) transgression is SIN, so TAL amidst SIN gives Stalin.)
4) Farting Amir hides his bottom, then shows his rear, reportedly. = Farting is TOOTING, Amir is Khan, hides bottom means take off last letter, so KHA, then 'shows his rear' is MOON, so TOOTINGKHAMOON = Tutankhamun
5) Little Anthony finds British fox's home. = Tony Blair (Little Anthony is TONY, British = B, fox's home is LAIR.)
6) Song about puritans? = Rasputin (anagram of 'puritans', and then Boney M sang about Rasputin)
7) An incomplete Mrs.Taylor and America head to palace. = Julius Caesar. (Incomplete Mrs. Taylor is Julie-e so JULI, America is US, the palace is CAESAR.
8) Point us around to the plane driver we hear. = Pontius Pilate. (anagram of 'point us') (plane driver is 'pilot')
9) Lightning doesn't faZE US. = Zeus, whose symbol was a lightning bolt.
10) Use short crowbar to fix tracer. = Jimmy Carter, using a short crowbar is to Jimmy something, to fix tracer indicates an anagram of tracer, so CARTER.

Tell me what you thought of them please, how I could improve them etc.

So, 3 people gave answers: Ryan, Dinos and Bob.

Bob got 9
Dinos got 6
Ryan got 5.

Sorry Eoin, only just got to this thread having fallen behind for a few days.

For what it's worth, for a first effort I think it is excellent.

Agreed, great work Eoin. Annoyingly I had actually thought of the Kha-moon bit, but didn't think to add Tutan on the front - d'oh!

Good work, and I saw ZEUS but didn't think it was the answer.

Thanks, gotta like all those posts.

I liked the Jimmy clue for No 10. Americanisms are fun.

Nice one I found in a book:

Top secret-monkey? (4)

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Nice one I found in a book:

Top secret-monkey? (4)

I don't really understand cryptics but I guess that's APEX?

JimBentley wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Nice one I found in a book:

Top secret-monkey? (4)

I don't really understand cryptics but I guess that's APEX?

Yep, well done.

Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Bacardi

Chris Corby wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Bacardi

That's nice! I'm always impressed by you guys both setting and solving these things, I can't do shit all of them.
So I might be wrong in suggesting this, but shouldn't the clue be "Taking a cab back..." to get the 'a' in? Or does the 'a' come from 'a short road', or something else I'm missing?

And what is Jim's APEX one?

Top = Apex (secret monkey ape x)

From The Times last month:
Where one pays for the other doorbell to be fixed (8)
bordello

Matt Morrison wrote:

Chris Corby wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Bacardi

That's nice! I'm always impressed by you guys both setting and solving these things, I can't do shit all of them.
So I might be wrong in suggesting this, but shouldn't the clue be "Taking a cab back..." to get the 'a' in? Or does the 'a' come from 'a short road', or something else I'm missing?

Nah the "a" comes from "a short road" otherwise it would contain repetition.

PS You could also word it Taking a cab back to short road ...

I made this one up:

Moan around the French. (6)

Chris Corby wrote:Sorry Eoin, only just got to this thread having fallen behind for a few days.

For what it's worth, for a first effort I think it is excellent.

Agreed.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Maybe I'm just a dick, but I can't see anything notable about this. The surface reading barely makes sense, and although it's slightly ambiguous, there's a pretty good chance you'd read the literal part of the clue exactly as it's intended (the beverage). The cryptic part is just a straight-forward charade composed mainly of common codewords. Pretty standard overall.

Charlie Reams wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Maybe I'm just a dick, but I can't see anything notable about this. The surface reading barely makes sense, and although it's slightly ambiguous, there's a pretty good chance you'd read the literal part of the clue exactly as it's intended (the beverage). The cryptic part is just a straight-forward charade composed mainly of common codewords. Pretty standard overall.

Excellent set of clues, Eoin. You've certainly nothing to worry about.

Wish I'd seen your post a lot earlier, but doubt if I'd have got many.

Charlie Reams wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Found this nice one: Taking cab back to a short road, one gets rum.

Maybe I'm just a dick, but I can't see anything notable about this. The surface reading barely makes sense, and although it's slightly ambiguous, there's a pretty good chance you'd read the literal part of the clue exactly as it's intended (the beverage). The cryptic part is just a straight-forward charade composed mainly of common codewords. Pretty standard overall.

Yeah, true enough but Eoin is only 14 years of age. He is just discovering how cryptic clues work, and has yet to go on to further education, university and California.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:I made this one up:

Moan around the French. (6)

Have to confess Eoin, I am struggling with this one though.......

Chris Corby wrote: Yeah, true enough but Eoin is only 14 years of age. He is just discovering how cryptic clues work, and has yet to go on to further education, university and California.

If it had been me I would have worded the clue "Taking taxi back....." which is slightly less obvious.

What's 14 got to do with it? I was appraising the clue, not him. If he'd written it himself I might've been more charitable and it's not even a bad clue, it's just mediocre. I wondered if I'd missed something clever (as I think happened elsewhere in this thread).

Charlie Reams wrote:

Chris Corby wrote: Yeah, true enough but Eoin is only 14 years of age. He is just discovering how cryptic clues work, and has yet to go on to further education, university and California.

If it had been me I would have worded the clue "Taking taxi back....." which is slightly less obvious.

What's 14 got to do with it? I was appraising the clue, not him. If he'd written it himself I might've been more charitable and it's not even a bad clue, it's just mediocre. I wondered if I'd missed something clever (as I think happened elsewhere in this thread).

Basically, we all think you're a cunt now you've fucked off to America. You American cunt, you.

(Attention Like-whores: abusing me gets you an automatic Like.)

Charlie Reams wrote:(Attention Like-whores: abusing me gets you an automatic Like.)

I'm not going to rise to that. Yet. Maybe when I'm something other than the most liked guy here. We'll see. I'm SO above the days of abusing Meakin for easy likes.

Charlie Reams wrote:

Chris Corby wrote: Yeah, true enough but Eoin is only 14 years of age. He is just discovering how cryptic clues work, and has yet to go on to further education, university and California.

If it had been me I would have worded the clue "Taking taxi back....." which is slightly less obvious.

What's 14 got to do with it?

Seriously???

Don't be a Charlie, Charlie, it's a good effort for anyone (first time out) but for a kid whose only 14 it's extremely impressive.

I'll grant you there are issues with the clues but I haven't seen many people, on here, setting better.

Quite frankly Dinos's are worse but then I have long suspected he is retarded.

David O'Donnell wrote:

Charlie Reams wrote:

Chris Corby wrote: Yeah, true enough but Eoin is only 14 years of age. He is just discovering how cryptic clues work, and has yet to go on to further education, university and California.

If it had been me I would have worded the clue "Taking taxi back....." which is slightly less obvious.

What's 14 got to do with it?

Seriously???

Don't be a Charlie, Charlie, it's a good effort for anyone (first time out) but for a kid whose only 14 it's extremely impressive.

I'll grant you there are issues with the clues but I haven't seen many people, on here, setting better.

Quite frankly Dinos's are worse but then I have long suspected he is retarded.

The original clue posted by Eoin was one he had found and Charlie was just saying that the clue wasn't that great a clue, like it was a pretty standard crossword clue. It could have just been in a quick crossword with the clue - Rum (7). He never criticised Eoin's personal clues, I liked Eoin's original 10 and thought they were good. Can't get 'Moan around the French' though.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:I made this one up:

Moan around the French. (6)

I suspect the intended answer is FEEBLE - but if so, you've forgotten to include a definition: "Slight moan ..." would be OK.

Peter Mabey wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:I made this one up:

Moan around the French. (6)

I suspect the intended answer is FEEBLE - but if so, you've forgotten to include a definition: "Slight moan ..." would be OK.

Nice spot given there was no straight component.

Ryan Taylor wrote:

Yeah actually, that's fair enough. Charlie wasn't even ambiguous about it.

Guess I must have been stocious.

Err, FEEBLE isn't right.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Err, FEEBLE isn't right.

Good stuff then.

Moan = Beef - around = feeb the French = le

but yeah it doesn't work since there is no straight component so I am glad it isn't the answer.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Err, FEEBLE isn't right.

Good stuff then.

Moan = Beef - around = feeb the French = le

but yeah it doesn't work since there is no straight component so I am glad it isn't the answer.

Uh oh, don't think I have a 'straight component' in the answer, better edit it:

Moan around the French to kill perhaps. (6)

That might make the answer a bit clearer.

Ryan Taylor wrote:Rum (7).

BACARDI ?

Jon Corby wrote:

Ryan Taylor wrote:Rum (7).

BACARDI ?

STRANGE

David O'Donnell wrote:Quite frankly Dinos's are worse but then I have long suspected he is retarded.

I am REALLY good at cryptic clues (for my age which is 6 and a half) I know theyr'e meant to make some sort of coherent sense but I think it's more important to be myself

I was a little harsh there; hit my shitfaced reply button.

Better give the answer then:

Moan around the French to kill perhaps. (6)

The answer is SLEIGH.

Moan = SIGH
The French = LE, so SIGH around LE is SLEIGH.
Also "To Kill" is SLAY.

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Better give the answer then:

Moan around the French to kill perhaps. (6)

The answer is SLEIGH.

Moan = SIGH
The French = LE, so SIGH around LE is SLEIGH.
Also "To Kill" is SLAY.

Excellent, although the clue should read:

Moan around the French to kill, say.

Thus you say out loud SLAY and it sounds like SLEIGH.

Kirk Bevins wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Better give the answer then:

Moan around the French to kill perhaps. (6)

The answer is SLEIGH.

Moan = SIGH
The French = LE, so SIGH around LE is SLEIGH.
Also "To Kill" is SLAY.

Excellent, although the clue should read:

Moan around the French to kill, say.

Thus you say out loud SLAY and it sounds like SLEIGH.

Okay, thanks Kirk.

Kirk Bevins wrote:

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Better give the answer then:

Moan around the French to kill perhaps. (6)

The answer is SLEIGH.

Moan = SIGH
The French = LE, so SIGH around LE is SLEIGH.
Also "To Kill" is SLAY.

Excellent, although the clue should read:

Moan around the French to kill, say.

Thus you say out loud SLAY and it sounds like SLEIGH.

That's not really there either. The clue still has no definition component. You're saying it's a word that sounds like kill but there is no definition of sleigh in the clue. It's okay when you are setting clues for the names of forumites because the definition component is already implied.

Moan about the French Santa's transport would be a way of doing it but needs work.

Edit: Moan about the French snowmobile might flow better.

There are also ways to describe the straight clue (or definitional component) like

Smiley Terry is not right, spasms spasmodically. (9)

Very, very tiresome ultimately, a Zulu playing the blasted thing? (8)

Almost topical clue in the Guardian today.

David O'Donnell wrote:Very, very tiresome ultimately, a Zulu playing the blasted thing? (8)

Almost topical clue in the Guardian today.

VUVUZELA? Complete guess obviously as I'm shit at these things. Let me have a go...

A ZULU + VV (very very) + E (tiresomE ultimately) ... playing (anagram) .... blasted thing (vuvuzela).

Ok it makes sense now, woo! Go me.

I managed to finish that one. Yay!