Who Will Win 62?
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Who Will Win 62?
Well the line up has been confirmed, so now it's time for you to decide.
If you already know the result either don't vote, or vote for who you honestly thought would win before you watched it (although that's slightly difficult since not all of the players had been on screen)
Feel free to speculate and analyise in detail if you want.
If you already know the result either don't vote, or vote for who you honestly thought would win before you watched it (although that's slightly difficult since not all of the players had been on screen)
Feel free to speculate and analyise in detail if you want.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
If the matches are run on a seeding system, I believe the semi-final match-ups will probably be Oliver vs Craig and Danny vs Lee, with the first semi being the game of the series. I'd also tip Lee to just edge Danny out for the other final spot.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Gotta be Garner.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
They are run on a seeding system, but not in the way you're assuming.Liam Tiernan wrote:If the matches are run on a seeding system, I believe the semi-final match-ups will probably be Oliver vs Craig and Danny vs Lee, with the first semi being the game of the series. I'd also tip Lee to just edge Danny out for the other final spot.
QFs are:
1 v 8
2 v 7
3 v 6
4 v 5
SFs are:
1/8 v 4/5
2/7 v 3/6
edit - having reread what you wrote, i think you probably were assuming the correct matches
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Because of the seeding system, we have the possibility that for the 3rd series running, we could have a semi-final, which would possibly have been a great final.
We had Kirk v Neil in Series 60, Chris v Innis in the last series, and possibly Oliver v Craig this time round.
If only the series had used average scores per game, then things might've been slightly different. It'd have made not much difference last series, thanks to the 7 octos, but if there was an average score format used for this series, then the seedings would look well different. (Average score, followed by actual seeding in brackets)
Oliver (100.25, 1)
Craig (94.57, 5)
Lee (89.57, 6)
Nicki (79.42, 7)
Danny (79.38, 2)
Claudia (77.86, 8)
Dave (77.25, 3)
Peter (77.12, 4)
We had Kirk v Neil in Series 60, Chris v Innis in the last series, and possibly Oliver v Craig this time round.
If only the series had used average scores per game, then things might've been slightly different. It'd have made not much difference last series, thanks to the 7 octos, but if there was an average score format used for this series, then the seedings would look well different. (Average score, followed by actual seeding in brackets)
Oliver (100.25, 1)
Craig (94.57, 5)
Lee (89.57, 6)
Nicki (79.42, 7)
Danny (79.38, 2)
Claudia (77.86, 8)
Dave (77.25, 3)
Peter (77.12, 4)
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
I have been boring and gone with Ollie too. Some of his recent games have been excellent, up there with Bevins-Carson-Davies-Levell.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
I imagine Gulliver Orner must start as favourite here. I did think that James Rawson might have looked even better when he started but then he lost. And Clark Carlisle would have made a good quarter-finalist. Also that guy who said he had to learn everything again from scratch after an accident or something looked like he could have gone far but he lost to James Rawson who then went onto lose anyway. But anyway, I'm going to take a punt on Craig.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Assuming Oliver and Craig win their QF's then whoever wins the semi final (between Oliver and Craig) will go on to win it, surely. I voted for Craig. Craig's numbers are superb and if he gets two picks at the numbers then this could be vital, although Oliver is also very good with the numbers game. Craig practised hard on apterous building on his sound letters game. Overall in my opinion Oliver is the stronger player, the statistics prove this but this is a one off game and Craig might just do it. If it goes to a crucial though I would expect Garnier to "take care" of it.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
An alternative to ranking the contestants by average score, as James has interestingly done, is to try to eliminate as far as possible the variables, and prompted by the Statistics Corner which Kai recently included in recaps, I've extended that to look at raw score as a precentage of max for each of the contestants over their entire runs. Also, I've looked separately at the various disciplines.
So -
Letters rounds
Raw score as percentage of max
Ollie 91%
Lee 87%
Danny 80%
Claudia 79%
Dave 77.5%
Craig 77.25%
Nicki 77.21%
Peter 76.8%
Maxes found
Ollie 66%
Lee 49%
Claudia 49%
Peter 42%
Danny 40%
Craig 34%
Nicki 30%
Dave 30%
Invalid word, or misdeclaration
Lee 2.6%
Ollie 3.4%
Danny 6%
Dave 8%
Craig 9%
Nicki 12%
Claudia 13%
Peter 15%
Niners
Ollie 3 out of 4
Lee 1 out of 2
Peter, Nicki and Claudia all 0 out of 1
Dave 0 out of 2
Danny and Craig both 0 out of 3
Number rounds
Raw score as percentage of max
Craig 94%
Oliver 87%
Nicki 86%
Dave 75.1%
Danny 74.6%
Lee 72.5%
Claudia 72.1%
Peter 63%
Maxes found
Craig 81%
Ollie 67%
Nicki 67%
Lee 52%
Danny 50%
Claudia 48%
Peter 46%
Dave 42%
Invalid, or no, solution
Craig 0%
Ollie 4%
Micki 5%
Dave 8%
Danny 12%
Lee 19%
Claudia 19%
Peter 29%
Conundrums (including tie-break)
Successes
Craig and Lee 4 (out of 7)
Dave 4 (8)
Peter 4 (9)
Nicki 3 (7)
Ollie 3 (8)
Danny 2 (8)
Claudia 1 (7)
Average time for successes
Ollie 2 sec
Nicki 5.6 sec
Peter 6.1 sec
Craig 8 sec
Dave 10 sec
Lee 13 sec
Danny 15 sec
Claudia 19 sec
Wrong guesses
Danny, Dave, Lee, Nicki 0
Peter, Craig 1
Claudia 2
Ollie 3
Overall (excludes tie-breaks)
Raw score as percentage of max
Ollie 86%
Lee 81%
Craig 80%
Nicki 76%
Dave 75%
Danny 74%
Claudia 72%
Peter 70%
Raw score per game
Ollie 105
Craig 99
Lee 97
Nicki 92
Dave 91.0
Danny 90.6
Claudia 85
Peter 84
Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
So -
Letters rounds
Raw score as percentage of max
Ollie 91%
Lee 87%
Danny 80%
Claudia 79%
Dave 77.5%
Craig 77.25%
Nicki 77.21%
Peter 76.8%
Maxes found
Ollie 66%
Lee 49%
Claudia 49%
Peter 42%
Danny 40%
Craig 34%
Nicki 30%
Dave 30%
Invalid word, or misdeclaration
Lee 2.6%
Ollie 3.4%
Danny 6%
Dave 8%
Craig 9%
Nicki 12%
Claudia 13%
Peter 15%
Niners
Ollie 3 out of 4
Lee 1 out of 2
Peter, Nicki and Claudia all 0 out of 1
Dave 0 out of 2
Danny and Craig both 0 out of 3
Number rounds
Raw score as percentage of max
Craig 94%
Oliver 87%
Nicki 86%
Dave 75.1%
Danny 74.6%
Lee 72.5%
Claudia 72.1%
Peter 63%
Maxes found
Craig 81%
Ollie 67%
Nicki 67%
Lee 52%
Danny 50%
Claudia 48%
Peter 46%
Dave 42%
Invalid, or no, solution
Craig 0%
Ollie 4%
Micki 5%
Dave 8%
Danny 12%
Lee 19%
Claudia 19%
Peter 29%
Conundrums (including tie-break)
Successes
Craig and Lee 4 (out of 7)
Dave 4 (8)
Peter 4 (9)
Nicki 3 (7)
Ollie 3 (8)
Danny 2 (8)
Claudia 1 (7)
Average time for successes
Ollie 2 sec
Nicki 5.6 sec
Peter 6.1 sec
Craig 8 sec
Dave 10 sec
Lee 13 sec
Danny 15 sec
Claudia 19 sec
Wrong guesses
Danny, Dave, Lee, Nicki 0
Peter, Craig 1
Claudia 2
Ollie 3
Overall (excludes tie-breaks)
Raw score as percentage of max
Ollie 86%
Lee 81%
Craig 80%
Nicki 76%
Dave 75%
Danny 74%
Claudia 72%
Peter 70%
Raw score per game
Ollie 105
Craig 99
Lee 97
Nicki 92
Dave 91.0
Danny 90.6
Claudia 85
Peter 84
Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Appreciated, thoughHoward Somerset wrote:Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Yeah that was pretty cool. Here's the same data in a different format:Michael Wallace wrote:Appreciated, thoughHoward Somerset wrote:Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
The "best" value in each column is in bold (this is a bit spurious for some of the conundrum columns). Fairly clear who should be expected to dominate letters (Ollie) and numbers (Craig); conundrums are harder to interpret because the data are so sparse.
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QFTMichael Wallace wrote:Appreciated, thoughHoward Somerset wrote:Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
16/10/2007 - Episode 4460
Dinos Sfyris 76 - 78 Dorian Lidell
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Don't worry Davy, by losing to Scott, Dominic was narrowly denied a place in the finals, but there weren't enough heats left before the finals began for Scott to edge in and so if he does continue his run, he'll simply be coming back as champion at the start of the next series.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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Had to look up QFT on Wiki. Nine meanings, seven of them are clearly irrelevant, but I'm interested which of the other two (7th or 8th) you were meaning, Kai.Kai Laddiman wrote:QFTMichael Wallace wrote:Appreciated, thoughHoward Somerset wrote:Clearly, I've got far too much time on my hands.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFT
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Actually in my experience it's normally number six, though I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks of number eight when it crops up.Howard Somerset wrote:Had to look up QFT on Wiki. Nine meanings, seven of them are clearly irrelevant, but I'm interested which of the other two (7th or 8th) you were meaning, Kai.Kai Laddiman wrote:QFT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QFT
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
LOL Davy complains about a spoiler that contained ummm... no spoilers, meanwhile allowing anyone who hasn't seen the last few games who the current champ is. You gotta love irony.Andy Wilson wrote:Don't worry Davy, by losing to Scott, Dominic was narrowly denied a place in the finals, but there weren't enough heats left before the finals began for Scott to edge in and so if he does continue his run, he'll simply be coming back as champion at the start of the next series.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
Ryan Taylor wrote:I would expect Garnier to "take care" of it.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Yup, and this got me too, last night when me and Badcock were just getting really excited about catching up on the Dom-Scott gameDinos Sfyris wrote:LOL Davy complains about a spoiler that contained ummm... no spoilers, meanwhile allowing anyone who hasn't seen the last few games who the current champ is. You gotta love irony.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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And me - I've been walking in the Lake District for a week, saving up the whole five days' worth of programmes for my return. Still, at least I'm alive, one of only c.600,000 in the area who made it past Wednesday.Matt Morrison wrote:Yup, and this got me too, last night when me and Badcock were just getting really excited about catching up on the Dom-Scott gameDinos Sfyris wrote:LOL Davy complains about a spoiler that contained ummm... no spoilers, meanwhile allowing anyone who hasn't seen the last few games who the current champ is. You gotta love irony.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
I have not voted for Peter Zyss - but he does have a rather nice smile.
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I hope you've told Jeff Burgin he's been dumped to his face. It's not a nice way to find out otherwiseRalph Gillions wrote:I have not voted for Peter Zyss - but he does have a rather nice smile.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
I'm looking forward to this starting, I'm sure the standard won't be as high as last year but I'm expecting some really close games as other than Ollie and Craig I think all the players are of about the same standard. The problem with last year was that whilst it was great to see Andrew, Chris and Innis again; they won their QFs so convincingly it was no different to watching the prelims.
As it's been touched on above it's a shame Ollie and Craig are in the same side of the draw as that would have made an epic final, I'm almost certain the winner of that game will win the whole thing; but I'd put my money on Ollie.
As it's been touched on above it's a shame Ollie and Craig are in the same side of the draw as that would have made an epic final, I'm almost certain the winner of that game will win the whole thing; but I'd put my money on Ollie.
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Oooh Lesley. Jeffrey has most certainly not been dumped.Lesley Hines wrote:I hope you've told Jeff Burgin he's been dumped to his face.
I assure you.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Andy Wilson wrote:Don't worry Davy, by losing to Scott, Dominic was narrowly denied a place in the finals, but there weren't enough heats left before the finals began for Scott to edge in and so if he does continue his run, he'll simply be coming back as champion at the start of the next series.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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Apology accepted no doubt!Davy Affleck wrote:CheersAndy Wilson wrote:Don't worry Davy, by losing to Scott, Dominic was narrowly denied a place in the finals, but there weren't enough heats left before the finals began for Scott to edge in and so if he does continue his run, he'll simply be coming back as champion at the start of the next series.Davy Affleck wrote:The fact that the present champ on TV (Scott) isn't there is a bit of a spoiler. Thanks for that.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
Is it my imagination or has this series been particularly lack-lustre? No real stars in this lot, apart from Oliver. Nice to see a woman in the last group though.
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
How many wins have you got?Jennifer McElroy wrote:Is it my imagination or has this series been particularly lack-lustre?
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Sorry..I don't get you...What do you mean "How many wins have you got?"
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Re: Who Will Win 62?
I've thought this a good series - there have been good close good-natured contests with personable contestants, a few upsets, and interesting DC guests (mostly). It doesn't matter that it hasn't been overflowing with Apterites who are familiar with the obscurer corners of the ODE, though at the same time it has been fun watching Oliver demolish opponents.Jennifer McElroy wrote:Is it my imagination or has this series been particularly lack-lustre? No real stars in this lot, apart from Oliver. Nice to see a woman in the last group though.
All in all, a credit to Damian and his team.
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I take your point Brian..and quite agree actually when you put it like that. good DC guests too (on the whole)