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CONFITS
The singular is allowed. I had confit of duck the other week and if someone else had ordered it, I'm sure the waitress would have told the chef she needed 2 confits.
It was yummy btw!
The singular is allowed. I had confit of duck the other week and if someone else had ordered it, I'm sure the waitress would have told the chef she needed 2 confits.
It was yummy btw!
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Re: CountMax errors
Add BOOAIS, BOOAYS, BOOHAIS.
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I agree completely.Karen Pearson wrote:CONFITS
The singular is allowed. I had confit of duck the other week and if someone else had ordered it, I'm sure the waitress would have told the chef she needed 2 confits.
It was yummy btw!
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Add LOOKITS, LOOKITED, LOOKITING as LOOKIT is a verb.
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I had OXTAILS disallowed in the duel yesterday:
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=204175
I thought it should be allowed under the 'plurals of foods are allowed even if mass nouns' rule.
Amie Bateen, Robert Shadwick, Tom Rowell, Jamie French, Edwin Mead, Christopher Smith and Alan White appeared to be under the same impression, as they offered it too.
OXTAILS was allowed in this episode:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2469&p=51190&hilit= ... 9f2#p51190
The singular was allowed by Susie here, but the plural not mentioned:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=351&hilit=oxtails
It is possible that since it wasn't offered by a contestant, Susie simply didn't think of it, rather than OXTAILS not being allowed.
Just noticed, after I'd already typed the rest of this, that Alison Heard was in DC for the first one, so that could be the difference.
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=204175
I thought it should be allowed under the 'plurals of foods are allowed even if mass nouns' rule.
Amie Bateen, Robert Shadwick, Tom Rowell, Jamie French, Edwin Mead, Christopher Smith and Alan White appeared to be under the same impression, as they offered it too.
OXTAILS was allowed in this episode:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2469&p=51190&hilit= ... 9f2#p51190
The singular was allowed by Susie here, but the plural not mentioned:
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=351&hilit=oxtails
It is possible that since it wasn't offered by a contestant, Susie simply didn't think of it, rather than OXTAILS not being allowed.
Just noticed, after I'd already typed the rest of this, that Alison Heard was in DC for the first one, so that could be the difference.
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Re: CountMax errors
Doesn't it also mean 'The tail of a cow'?Julie T wrote:I thought it should be allowed under the 'plurals of foods are allowed even if mass nouns' rule.
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According to ODE2r, OXTAIL as one word is a mass noun meaning the meat from the tail of a cow.Edwin Mead wrote:Doesn't it also mean 'The tail of a cow'?Julie T wrote:I thought it should be allowed under the 'plurals of foods are allowed even if mass nouns' rule.
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In that case, I'll have two oxtails please.Julie T wrote:According to ODE2r, OXTAIL as one word is a mass noun meaning the meat from the tail of a cow.Edwin Mead wrote:Doesn't it also mean 'The tail of a cow'?Julie T wrote:I thought it should be allowed under the 'plurals of foods are allowed even if mass nouns' rule.
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My older version of the ODE (published 1999) includes a second meaning: 'The tail of a cow' (noun). This probably explains why Alison Heard stated oxtails as acceptable.
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Re: CountMax errors
Have finally caught up with the backlog here, so all of the above are now available on apterous. I'm pretty sure Susie would allow oxtails.
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Thanks, Charlie!Charlie Reams wrote:Have finally caught up with the backlog here, so all of the above are now available on apterous. I'm pretty sure Susie would allow oxtails.
Always difficult to know exactly what Susie would allow with the slightly dubious ones. A bit of guesswork always comes into it.
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I've just had LANKER disallowed (and have checked it's not in the apterous dictionary). A mistake?
LANKEST is allowable.
LANKEST is allowable.
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Yep. Both added now.Matt Bayfield wrote:I've just had LANKER disallowed (and have checked it's not in the apterous dictionary). A mistake?
LANKEST is allowable.
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Think PEROBAS should be in as recently Susie has allowed mass noun plurals under the proviso there are different species in bold underneath and for PEROBA there are (White peroba and red peroba are specified).
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Pretty sure this is wrongly allowed- http://www.apterous.org/lexplorer.php?word=kibitzs
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Weirdly, BISCUITS is missing.Ben Wilson wrote:Pretty sure this is wrongly allowed- http://www.apterous.org/lexplorer.php?word=kibitzs
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Should ARCINGS be in as under ARC it states a verb but the second entry is [usu. as noun arcing] form an electric arc. The definition implies a verb but it states usually as a noun. Opinions?
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We've allowed plurals from other entries like that, although I can't think of an example right now.Kirk Bevins wrote:Should ARCINGS be in as under ARC it states a verb but the second entry is [usu. as noun arcing] form an electric arc. The definition implies a verb but it states usually as a noun. Opinions?
Re: CountMax errors
PANFORTE is listed as some kind of cake, so I am guessing you could ask for two PANFORTES when ordering your pudding in a restaurant. PRONATES+F
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I don't have ODE, but am I right in thinking that plurals of fabrics (even if indicated as mass noun) are permissible? If so, then I think VISCOSES should be added to the lexicon.
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From what I can tell with my Google-fu, the plural of PANFORTE in Italian is PANFORTI, but I think its use in English is too uncommon (likewise the singular of another Italian dessert, CANNOLI [sing. CANNOLO]) for inclusion in the ODE2r. So this one is a little more complicated than, say, LEMONADE. I'll let those more experienced with these judgements make that decision though.JackHurst wrote:PANFORTE is listed as some kind of cake, so I am guessing you could ask for two PANFORTES when ordering your pudding in a restaurant. PRONATES+F
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Re: CountMax errors
FEOFFEES
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There wasn't an O in that round. (Or are you saying it should go?)Karen Pearson wrote:FEOFFEES
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http://www.apterous.org/lexplorer.php?word=FEOFFEESKaren Pearson wrote:FEOFFEES
GR MSL GNDT MSS NGVWL SRND NNLYC NNCT
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Oh bugger! Misread the Q as an O!!! Must get new glasses!!!Hugh Binnie wrote:There wasn't an O in that round. (Or are you saying it should go?)Karen Pearson wrote:FEOFFEES
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Might be GELATI?Edwin Mead wrote:GELATOS?
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Re: CountMax errors
Just had a game with SDEIGNED listed as a winner. I suspect this is a mistake!
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?ga ... 0#r3390270
EDIT: This isn't a Countmax problem, just an Apterous one I've discovered...
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?ga ... 0#r3390270
EDIT: This isn't a Countmax problem, just an Apterous one I've discovered...
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I think it's valid for CSW just not ODE2r.Ian Volante wrote:Just had a game with SDEIGNED listed as a winner. I suspect this is a mistake!
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?ga ... 0#r3390270
EDIT: This isn't a Countmax problem, just an Apterous one I've discovered...
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Re: CountMax errors
Yup - from the Collins Ultimate Scrabble Word List:
SDEIGN, vb, old form of disdain
SDEIGN, vb, old form of disdain
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Fair enough, I should have dug further. I also forgot I'd been playing CSW...Kirk Bevins wrote:I think it's valid for CSW just not ODE2r.Ian Volante wrote:Just had a game with SDEIGNED listed as a winner. I suspect this is a mistake!
http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?ga ... 0#r3390270
EDIT: This isn't a Countmax problem, just an Apterous one I've discovered...
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Add DECORUMS as it's listed as its own entry.
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Re: CountMax errors
Thanks to Samir for pointing out that RAMBURAS is in Countmax and apterous but google doesn't recognise it, nor can I find it in ODE2r. Not sure where this has come from (apart from a foreign/French dictionary?).
Re: CountMax errors
Hmm, it's in my personal dictionary too, which tends to suggest it really could be in there *somewhere* as mine was made from scratch from the ODE2r text. Will try and investigate...Kirk Bevins wrote:Thanks to Samir for pointing out that RAMBURAS is in Countmax and apterous but google doesn't recognise it, nor can I find it in ODE2r. Not sure where this has come from (apart from a foreign/French dictionary?).
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MEOWING
From yesterday's Duel. I notice I wasn't the only person to declare this. I may have an out-of-date version of the dictionary but mine states:
Meow - noun & verb - variant spelling of miaow.
Is this no longer valid?
P.S. As other people also declared it, I don't think I was seeing phantom letters this time!
From yesterday's Duel. I notice I wasn't the only person to declare this. I may have an out-of-date version of the dictionary but mine states:
Meow - noun & verb - variant spelling of miaow.
Is this no longer valid?
P.S. As other people also declared it, I don't think I was seeing phantom letters this time!
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I think it might have something to do with Round 2 of this episode: http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3532Karen Pearson wrote:MEOWING
From yesterday's Duel. I notice I wasn't the only person to declare this. I may have an out-of-date version of the dictionary but mine states:
Meow - noun & verb - variant spelling of miaow.
Is this no longer valid?
P.S. As other people also declared it, I don't think I was seeing phantom letters this time!
Susie declared that MEOWING was illegal, and was only allowed as MIAOWING. I think the same thing happened with POUNCER, or should I saw pouncer.
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Thanks James. I knew someone would have a better memory than me.
Interestingly, it doesn't say 'US' under the actual entry for MEOW, only under the entry for MIAOW. Could definitely be clearer.
I think I'll probably remember not to declare this again (or at least not for another 6 months)!
Interestingly, it doesn't say 'US' under the actual entry for MEOW, only under the entry for MIAOW. Could definitely be clearer.
I think I'll probably remember not to declare this again (or at least not for another 6 months)!
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We've discussed this discrepancy (if you like) before....Susie had allowed MEOWING back in the past (since US spellings) and now disallows it. I don't like these cross reference things that say "noun...another term for milk glass" and then you look at milk glass and it says "[mass noun]". Annoying.Karen Pearson wrote:
Interestingly, it doesn't say 'US' under the actual entry for MEOW, only under the entry for MIAOW. Could definitely be clearer.
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QUANTUS is listed as valid on apterous and CountMax, but I can't find it in the ODE and definitions of the word on the Internet seem to be non-existent.
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Not in NODE either, of course - except in etymology of QUANTUMChris Davies wrote:QUANTUS is listed as valid on apterous and CountMax, but I can't find it in the ODE and definitions of the word on the Internet seem to be non-existent.
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I declared it too.Karen Pearson wrote:MEOWING
From yesterday's Duel. I notice I wasn't the only person to declare this. I may have an out-of-date version of the dictionary but mine states:
Meow - noun & verb - variant spelling of miaow.
Is this no longer valid?
P.S. As other people also declared it, I don't think I was seeing phantom letters this time!
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Add AETHERS.
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MATELOTE is a food mass noun so I believe MATELOTES should be in.
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Some of the very obscure elements are invalid, so this is probably just statistical lexicography in action (sorry for digging up the old post, I was lexploring some of the elements this weekend. Sad, I know.)Ian Volante wrote:COPERNICIUM?
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SPOILER ALERT!Karen Pearson wrote:CONFITS
The singular is allowed. I had confit of duck the other week and if someone else had ordered it, I'm sure the waitress would have told the chef she needed 2 confits.
It was yummy btw!
Fitting for today.
Edit: Cheers Dinos.
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http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=2 ... 5#r4024245Kirk Bevins wrote:MATELOTE is a food mass noun so I believe MATELOTES should be in.
From this game I assume.
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Confitting?Eoin Monaghan wrote:Fitting for today.Karen Pearson wrote:CONFITS
The singular is allowed. I had confit of duck the other week and if someone else had ordered it, I'm sure the waitress would have told the chef she needed 2 confits.
It was yummy btw!
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Fair enough. I was partly under the impression that if a new element for example was named, it would quickly be placed in the dictionary. But given that dictionaries appear to be updated annually, that's a bit of a silly idea.Paul Howe wrote:Some of the very obscure elements are invalid, so this is probably just statistical lexicography in action (sorry for digging up the old post, I was lexploring some of the elements this weekend. Sad, I know.)Ian Volante wrote:COPERNICIUM?
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GUILLEMET
This came up in a game today and neither Dinos nor I had come across it before.
I've looked in the great book and can't find it anywhere.
Any clues?
According to Wikipedia it means those brackets that are rather like arrows.
This came up in a game today and neither Dinos nor I had come across it before.
I've looked in the great book and can't find it anywhere.
Any clues?
According to Wikipedia it means those brackets that are rather like arrows.
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I have this strange idea that the main spelling might be guillemot (or at least that's how I learned it). And yes, it's the <<quote marks>>.Karen Pearson wrote:GUILLEMET
This came up in a game today and neither Dinos nor I had come across it before.
I've looked in the great book and can't find it anywhere.
Any clues?
According to Wikipedia it means those brackets that are rather like arrows.
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That's a seabird innit?Andrew Feist wrote:I have this strange idea that the main spelling might be guillemot (or at least that's how I learned it). And yes, it's the <<quote marks>>.Karen Pearson wrote:GUILLEMET
This came up in a game today and neither Dinos nor I had come across it before.
I've looked in the great book and can't find it anywhere.
Any clues?
According to Wikipedia it means those brackets that are rather like arrows.
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It's actually the name of the show Dmitry was planning to start a thread about, but now he can't.
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It is. An auk.Jon Corby wrote:That's a seabird innit?Andrew Feist wrote: I have this strange idea that the main spelling might be guillemot (or at least that's how I learned it). And yes, it's the <<quote marks>>.
Re: CountMax errors
It's right above GUILLEMOT, no idea how you missed it. Maybe you are using the wrong edition.Karen Pearson wrote:GUILLEMET
This came up in a game today and neither Dinos nor I had come across it before.
I've looked in the great book and can't find it anywhere.
Any clues?
According to Wikipedia it means those brackets that are rather like arrows.
Re: CountMax errors
Yeah, I just checked, its in Joshes Version of the current edition, but not in my version of the previous edition. Must have been added when they updated.
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Thanks Jack. I wasn't sure if mine was the latest edition (not counting the really new one).
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LIMONENES should be in I think, as dictionary.com says "a liquid terpene, C 40 H 16 , occurring in two optically different forms" which implies there are two LIMONENES.
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Re: CountMax errors
In the OED, its listed as a mass noun, and there is nothing in the entry to suggest there are different types. So going on the basis that Susie would have no reason to allow it when she looked it up on the show, it shouldn't be in.Kai Laddiman wrote:LIMONENES should be in I think, as dictionary.com says "a liquid terpene, C 40 H 16 , occurring in two optically different forms" which implies there are two LIMONENES.
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SWEETNESSES should be in - sweetness is clearly a noun, not a mass noun.
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