A special thanks

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:42 am

When Apterous goes down and I know it, you will all be treated to a humorous little link. From now on, we shall refer to this as my "Brucie-roll."

When Kirk Bevins Brucierolled me, I was surprised because I didn't think he would take it so seriously. Kirk should listen to me and know that I have some sense.

When I Brucieroll all of you, please do not take it to heart. Do not take it as a threat, but rather a warning.

Thank you!

Now, let's fold our hands for Charlie Reams that he comes back from Italy soon and take his comment, "So long, Britain" as a joke.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:50 am

Kieran Child · Post by **Kieran Child** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:30 am

But this is only the first step. There should be far more rolling than there is.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:33 am

I don't know what is going on.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:35 am

And the next photo is presumably, adding a dash of salt ?

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:33 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:Now, let's fold our hands for Charlie Reams that he comes back from Italy soon and take his comment, "So long, Britain" as a joke.

Jason, "so long" is an expression that means the same as "goodbye". When people go away on holiday, it's not unusual for them to say "goodbye" before they leave. It doesn't mean they won't be coming back. Charlie went on holiday and said "goodbye" before he left. That's all. It wasn't a joke.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:35 pm

Thank you kindly, Phil.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:41 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:Now, let's fold our hands for Charlie Reams

Let's what? Are you folding them round anything?

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 10:48 pm

Let's fold our hands around both oceans for Charlie!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:13 am

Jason Larsen wrote:Let's fold our hands around both oceans for Charlie!

There are only two oceans? Typical American.

Jimmy Gough · Post by **Jimmy Gough** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:20 am

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:25 am

The Atlantic and the Pacific, Kirk.

Matthew Green · Post by **Matthew Green** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:20 am

You conveniently left out the Indian. Racist.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:47 am

And the Arctic ocean.

Peter Mabey · Post by **Peter Mabey** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:07 am

Not to mention the Southern ocean

Kieran Child · Post by **Kieran Child** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:46 am

Or the 1970s rock band, 'ocean'.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:47 am

Jason Larsen wrote:The Atlantic and the Pacific, Kirk.

Turn a globe so that you are viewing Antarctica at the top, then you can see it's just one ocean - the 'World Ocean' - maybe as in Plato's description of the location of Atlantis? Atlantis was 'the navel' in the world ocean. So Antarctica (once in a temperate climate zone) is Atlantis.

Simples.

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:33 pm

They're the two oceans closest to us.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:39 pm

Jason Larsen wrote:They're the two oceans closest to us.

We're not particularly close to the Pacific, Jace, what with it being the other side of the planet.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:59 pm

You forgot Ocean the software developer and games publisher, who were responsible for bringing us such games as Worms, New Zealand Story, and most importantly, Daily Thompson's Decathlon. Ocean now goes by the name Infogrames, who in 2002 acquired Shiny Entertainment, the games developer responsible for bringing us Earthworm Jim and for making a celebrity of programmer David Perry, who had already built up a formidable reputation as a great games designer through his work for Virgin Interactive, for whom he oversaw the development of such hits as Aladdin and Cool Spot. Let's fold our hands around David Perry and Richard Branson, and all subsidiary and related videogames companies.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:05 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:Daily Thompson's Decathlon.

ZOMG he did a decathlon everyday?

DECATHLON is one of 3 9s that uses the letters LOATHED. Name the other 2

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:11 pm

Ocean and Finance?

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:40 pm

Dinos Sfyris wrote:DECATHLON is one of 3 9s that uses the letters LOATHED. Name the other 2

ETHMOIDAL and TOWELHEAD.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:09 am

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:DECATHLON is one of 3 9s that uses the letters LOATHED. Name the other 2
ETHMOIDAL and TOWELHEAD.

Did you do that without cheating? LOATHED is the one stem I know for 8s and 9s.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:42 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:Did you do that without cheating?

What's cheating? There was nothing in the question that said "without searching through a word list, especially not with a computer".

Peter Mabey · Post by **Peter Mabey** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:41 am

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:Did you do that without cheating?
What's cheating? There was nothing in the question that said "without searching through a word list, especially not with a computer".

If you're allowed software, the Quinapalus <i>Word Matcher</i> http://www.quinapalus.com/cgi-bin/match gives:
aldershot (+rs) bloodheat (+bo) deathblow (+bw) deathroll (+lr) decathlon (+cn) ethmoidal (+im) handtowel (+nw) headcloth (+ch) holderbat (+br) holdwater (+rw) joltheads (+js) lashedout (+su) tallyhoed (+ly)

Obviously Aldershot is out - I've not checked the others against Lexplorer

Jason Larsen · Post by **Jason Larsen** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:10 pm

I'm sorry.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:23 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:Did you do that without cheating?
What's cheating? There was nothing in the question that said "without searching through a word list, especially not with a computer".

But surely it's bloody easy to answer a question like that using solvers? I thought it was trying to get you to work them out/know them? Pretty fucking pointless quiz if you're allowed to use aids.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:43 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:Did you do that without cheating?
What's cheating? There was nothing in the question that said "without searching through a word list, especially not with a computer".
But surely it's bloody easy to answer a question like that using solvers? I thought it was trying to get you to work them out/know them? Pretty fucking pointless quiz if you're allowed to use aids.

Anagrams: serious business.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:53 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:Anagrams: serious business.

+1... haha excellent

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:55 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:But surely it's bloody easy to answer a question like that using solvers? I thought it was trying to get you to work them out/know them? Pretty fucking pointless quiz if you're allowed to use aids.

aids increases your anagramming skills? fuck, I should be having sex with men

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 7:58 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:But surely it's bloody easy to answer a question like that using solvers? I thought it was trying to get you to work them out/know them? Pretty fucking pointless quiz if you're allowed to use aids.
aids increases your anagramming skills? fuck, I should be having sex with men

...Too late.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:20 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:...Too late.

?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:24 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:...Too late.
?

These days they wrongfully teach kids on the curriculum that if you want to sleep with men you have to start before the age of 16. After that, it's just too late to begin. Kai's just misunderstood. We all know that really you can begin any time you want. TONIGHT!

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:51 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:There was nothing in the question that said "without searching through a word list, especially not with a computer".
But surely it's bloody easy to answer a question like that using solvers?

I didn't use a solver FWIW, although it still wouldn't have been "cheating" (in the sense of "breaking the rules") if I had. I've never heard of either of the two words before, so it would have been impossible for me to answer the question without using the dictionary; and I enjoyed the intellectual challenge of constructing a search pattern to find the answers.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:51 pm

I just feel it somewhat ruins it if you're using an aid (I class this as cheating even if Dinos didn't state rules).

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:45 am

Kirk Bevins wrote:I just feel it somewhat ruins it if you're using an aid (I class this as cheating even if Dinos didn't state rules).

But what do you class as an aid?

Kieran Child · Post by **Kieran Child** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:32 am

I would guess any form of external help - computers, solvers, other uncreditted people. That sort of thing.
Here is the wikipedia page on aids.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:37 am

Yay Phil wins with his innovative dictionary method

From Mock the Week Subject: Things you wouldn't want to hear on a first date "When I said I was a positive person I meant HIV positive."

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:44 am

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Yay Phil wins with his innovative dictionary method

From Mock the Week Subject: Things you wouldn't want to hear on a first date "When I said I was a positive person I meant HIV positive."

Even worse on a second date!
BTW kudos to Raccoon for the joke that started all this off - can't really put it in the Classic Posts thread because of the context, but it was brilliant.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:49 am

Kieran Child wrote:I would guess any form of external help - computers, solvers, other uncreditted people. That sort of thing.

Dictionaries? That would certainly be external help. What I'm getting at is, either you're meant to know these obscure words already, which seems like a rather boring and elitist test to me; or you have to look for them in the dictionary. Having worked out an algorithm for doing so, you then either apply it manually (which would take a prohibitive amount of time) or use a computer to speed up the process. I don't see why this is cheating. It's no different to maths tests where, once you've demonstrated that you know the method, you're allowed to use a calculator to work out the actual numerical answer.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:57 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Kieran Child wrote:I would guess any form of external help - computers, solvers, other uncreditted people. That sort of thing.
Dictionaries? That would certainly be external help. What I'm getting at is, either you're meant to know these obscure words already, which seems like a rather boring and elitist test to me; or you have to look for them in the dictionary. Having worked out an algorithm for doing so, you then either apply it manually (which would take a prohibitive amount of time) or use a computer to speed up the process. I don't see why this is cheating. It's no different to maths tests where, once you've demonstrated that you know the method, you're allowed to use a calculator to work out the actual numerical answer.

Not in a non-calculator test and you should treat all puzzles as non-cheaty puzzles. You wouldn't be asked a riddle on here then Google it and give an answer and feel smug would you? You should leave it to those that can think and figure it out themselves. I think it's akin to posting beaters in the spoilers thread without getting them yourself - we can all use solvers so it's pretty pointless.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:09 pm

Take me through, step by step, how you think I should have solved the puzzle.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:11 pm

Phil!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:19 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:Take me through, step by step, how you think I should have solved the puzzle.

If you couldn't work out the answer by playing double goatdown then leave it to someone else that can.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:21 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:If you couldn't work out the answer by playing double goatdown then leave it to someone else that can.

Haha. I did say it was elitist.

Kieran Child · Post by **Kieran Child** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:13 pm

Aren't all puzzles 'elitist' in that their aim is to filter off those who can solve it.

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:15 pm

Kieran Child wrote:Aren't all puzzles 'elitist' in that their aim is to filter off those who can solve it.

Not all puzzles require specialist knowledge to solve them. Anyway, Dinos has already declared me the winner so yah boo sucks to you.

Kieran Child · Post by **Kieran Child** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:03 pm

I was never going to solve it. Had I been buried by bandits and given a hat like in the following diagram

then asked the question. I would have died of starvation before getting it. And I think that had the other people buried been other forum members, only those who I wouldn't consider to be 'cheating' would be able to solve it.

Nothing up for grabs though so it doesn't matter too much, especially since I couldn't have got it, I can just imagine it's irritating for Kirk.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:49 am

From now on, this is this forum's stance on AIDS.