ECLAMPSIA vs. ERGONOMIC

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Which was harder? (woof)

ECLAMPSIA by miles
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54%
ECLAMPSIA by a bit
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33%
Neither, they were both as hard as $joke
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5%
ERGONOMIC by a bit
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8%
ERGONOMIC by miles
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ECLAMPSIA vs. ERGONOMIC

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Obviously I got neither, but I'm rubbish, but I still reckon the crucial one was a lot harder. Opinions needed!
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Eclampsia, largely because I actually got Ergonomic (at about the half-way mark according to my notes) but would never have seen Eclampsia.
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I'd seen ERGONOMIC, with that exact scramble, somewhere before, and I still didn't get it. Dunno whether I would've got ECLAMPSIA in the 30 seconds but certainly didn't have it when Kirk got it. So in conclusion, I have no useful input whatsoever.
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I'd say ECLAMPSIA but ERGONOMIC is also very tricky - I was just thinking RECOOMING for 30 seconds :D
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I reckon ERGONOMIC is easier to spot because it's a more common word structure.
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I managed to get ERGONOMIC but I'd never even heard of ECLAMPSIA.

I'm with Neil Z on this one - "I wouldn't have got it even if I had 30 minutes!"
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I didn't get either, but I'd've at least felt I had a chance to get Ergonomic- even though it may have taken me a bit longer than 30 seconds. I wouldn't have got Eclampsia unless you gave me enough time to manually go through all 181440 combinations of the letters. And perhaps not even then.
Having said that, as I said to Kirk on apterous a few weeks before the finals- I prefer the harder conundrums, since it makes it less of a speed-buzzer-pressing lottery. Of course, when you're playing against Kirk, that doesn't apply...
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If you have both words in your vocabulary I'd probably go for ECLAMPSIA, but because i think more people are likely to have ERGONOMIC in their vocab, i'd have to say its easier than ECLAMPSIA
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Ergonomic is the easier word out of the two in my opinion as I haven't even heard of Eclampsia. Having said that, Ergonomic is still quite a hard conundrum to solve as the ING sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Haven't a clue what this is on about. It looks suspiciously like a spoiler to me. Were there two conundrums on Friday?

[Edit - I've now checked the date on the first post!] :oops:
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Darren Carter wrote:Ergonomic is the easier word out of the two in my opinion as I haven't even heard of Eclampsia. Having said that, Ergonomic is still quite a hard conundrum to solve as the ING sticks out like a sore thumb.
I never got ERGONOMIC sat in the audience. I was lucky.
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Darren Carter wrote:Ergonomic is the easier word out of the two in my opinion as I haven't even heard of Eclampsia. Having said that, Ergonomic is still quite a hard conundrum to solve as the ING sticks out like a sore thumb.
Although I'd imagine most players at the finals will realise that any ING in a conundrum is going to be a decoy (although obviously the relevance of that depends on how one interprets my original question).
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As soon as I saw that ECLAMPSIA was the answer to first one, I thought, "Only someone like Kirk was going to get that!" And of course, he did.

I managed to get ERGONOMIC with about 2 seconds left, after ruling out just about every word that would end in -ING or -ER.
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Kirk Bevins wrote:
Darren Carter wrote:Ergonomic is the easier word out of the two in my opinion as I haven't even heard of Eclampsia. Having said that, Ergonomic is still quite a hard conundrum to solve as the ING sticks out like a sore thumb.
I never got ERGONOMIC sat in the audience. I was lucky.
I didn't get it either, so if that had been our conundrum there is a chance that Eclampsia would've been used anyway, since the scores were still tied. So you'd still have won. So I wouldn't say you were lucky in that respect.
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I've gone for ERGONOMIC as harder by a bit, but I'm not really sure why. Pretty sure I was nowhere near either at the time, though.
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Neil Zussman wrote: I didn't get it either, so if that had been our conundrum there is a chance that Eclampsia would've been used anyway, since the scores were still tied. So you'd still have won. So I wouldn't say you were lucky in that respect.
I think they have a different conundrum lined up in the event of a tie-breaker, rather than shuffling everything else forward. Apparently BASSIDRUM (the conundrum from Junaid's game with Tony Warren) would've been the tie-breaker in our series final. Also ROVINGERA would've been pretty weird to have in the semi-final.
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ECLAMPSIA I reckon by a long way. Never heard of it before then and don't know what it means.

ERGONOMIC I got in about 3 seconds - heard of the word before and probably got at the time because at University I remember doing an essay on ergonomics and the job I work in sometimes requires me to use that word.
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Charlie Reams wrote:
Neil Zussman wrote: I didn't get it either, so if that had been our conundrum there is a chance that Eclampsia would've been used anyway, since the scores were still tied. So you'd still have won. So I wouldn't say you were lucky in that respect.
I think they have a different conundrum lined up in the event of a tie-breaker, rather than shuffling everything else forward. Apparently BASSIDRUM (the conundrum from Junaid's game with Tony Warren) would've been the tie-breaker in our series final. Also ROVINGERA would've been pretty weird to have in the semi-final.
But then the GANDISEEG pun would be spoiled. Would he have got another conundrum beginning with E in - ERGONOMIC fit that bill.
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Charlie Reams wrote:
Neil Zussman wrote: I didn't get it either, so if that had been our conundrum there is a chance that Eclampsia would've been used anyway, since the scores were still tied. So you'd still have won. So I wouldn't say you were lucky in that respect.
I think they have a different conundrum lined up in the event of a tie-breaker, rather than shuffling everything else forward. Apparently BASSIDRUM (the conundrum from Junaid's game with Tony Warren) would've been the tie-breaker in our series final. Also ROVINGERA would've been pretty weird to have in the semi-final.
Yes, I never imagined they would move the final conundrum to the semis, but I like to imagine (though I may be way off) that Damian had a list of at list 3 or 4 words to pick from for the semis, and it just happened to start 'Eclampsia, Ergonomic...' It could equally likely have started off with those two words in reverse.
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I knew that COOMERING^ = ERGONOMIC, but I don't know whether I would've remembered.
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Craig Beevers wrote:I reckon ERGONOMIC is easier to spot because it's a more common word structure.
Same here - also, I would have doubted ECLAMPSIA, having only heard of PRE-ECLAMPSIA. :?
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