CO:parkrun Recaps

[Gavin Chipper]

Before Braintree I think it was me, Dave, Susie and Samuel at Notley and Fiona and Tom at Dunmow. Anyone else to declare?

[Gavin Chipper]

Great Notley parkrun:

1 (1). Gevin Chapwell - 19:33 (73.06%) (800 points)
52 (2). Samuel Louis - 25:05 (51.43%) (600 points)
101 (3). Dave Ryan - 29:34 (53.33%) (400 points)
117 (4). Suzy Turner - 30:34 (57.69%) (200 points)

This was my first "win" at parkrun for over 4 years, and at a CO-event special as well!

Great Dunmow:

12 (1). Thomas Carey - 23:37 (54.62%) (667 points)
63 (2). Fiona Titcombe - 34:44 (52.11%) (333 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 6969
2. Dan Byrom - 4348
3. Fiona Titcombe - 3325
4. Bradley Horrocks - 2862
5. Gevin Chapwell - 2189
6. Stephen Read - 1567
7. Mike Springett - 1471
8. Rachael Montgomery - 1366
9. David Hilton - 1223
10. Samuel Louis - 1100
11. Chris Marshall - 1078
12. Dave Robjohns - 842
13. Jonathan Wynn - 833
14. Oliver Garner - 750
15. Eeshan Malhotra - 600
=. Fiona Thorne - 600
17. Adam Latchford - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
19. Callum Todd - 444
=. Dave Ryan - 400
21. Adam Beach - 222
22. Adam Dexter - 200
=. Tasneem Rana - 200
=. Suzy Turner - 200
25. Melody Coupe - 111
26. Steven Grady - 100

34,000 from 68 scores, averaging 500.

I believe it's just Milton Keynes to go. Carey has this sewn up unless we do a winner takes all of the top 8 that go to MK! (We won't do that.)

[Thomas Carey]

I don't think I'm allowed to run at MK now as it would tarnish my perfect points total

[Callum Todd]

Great Notley parkrun:

1 (1). Gevin Chapwell - 19:33 (73.06%) (800 points)
52 (2). Samuel Louis - 25:05 (51.43%) (600 points)
101 (3). Dave Ryan - 29:34 (53.33%) (400 points)
117 (4). Suzy Turner - 30:34 (57.69%) (200 points)

This was my first "win" at parkrun for over 4 years, and at a CO-event special as well!

Well done!

[Fiona T]

So new challenge idea (inspired by Maus finishing 10th at Vingis 10th event)
- simple version - finish in the position of the event number
- advanced version - finish in position of event number, 1 away, 2 away - how far can you go? (treat difference as absolute, so -1 and 1 are both 1 away). Call it your f-index (0 is a valid number for this index)

I knocked together a wilsonesque visual, but only works running locally (will investigate circumventing their scrapey blocker)

Mine looks like this so my f-index is 8 (happy to run for anyone else who wants it!)

[Ian Volante]

So new challenge idea (inspired by Maus finishing 10th at Vingis 10th event)
- simple version - finish in the position of the event number
- advanced version - finish in position of event number, 1 away, 2 away - how far can you go? (treat difference as absolute, so -1 and 1 are both 1 away). Call it your f-index (0 is a valid number for this index)

I knocked together a wilsonesque visual, but only works running locally (will investigate circumventing their scrapey blocker)

Mine looks like this so my f-index is 8 (happy to run for anyone else who wants it!)

Does that mean your closest finish to the event number was 8, or you've achieved this eight times, or something else?

[Fiona T]

it means at Frimley Lodge event #255 I finished 255th (0 away), at event #154 I finished 153 or 155 (1 away), at event #319 I finished 316 or 322 (3 away) etc. I've never finished in a position 9 away from the event number!

Yours looks like this, so at Edinburgh event #142 you finished 147th - you've never finished 4 away from the event number.

[Gavin Chipper]

This looks quite intersting and an impressive amount of green on your table, Fiona!

[Fiona T]

This looks quite intersting and an impressive amount of green on your table, Fiona!

I think it's a challenge where being less speedy helps!

Here's the one for some random guy called Toby

[Gavin Chipper]

Thanks for doing that. Does that make my f-index minus 1?

[Fiona T]

Thanks for doing that. Does that make my f-index minus 1?

I guess you don't have one - perhaps the f-index would be better incremented by 1. Would make your floating f-index more consistent too then

[Gavin Chipper]

Milton Keynes was the last event of the year and we had 9 of us doing the Linford Wood parkrun:

2 (1). Gevin Chapwell - 19:52 (71.90%) (900 points)
15 (2). Thomas Carey - 22:01 (58.59%) (800 points)
55 (3). Joseph Henry - 25:35 (51.53%) (700 points)
79 (4). Samuel Louis - 26:41 (48.34%) (600 points)
123 (5). Dave Ryan - 28:55 (54.52%) (500 points)
153 (6). Suzy Turner - 30:02 (58.71%) (400 points)
293 (7). Fiona Titcombe - 55:30 (32.61%) (300 points)
294 (8). Bradley Horrocks - 55:31 (23.24%) (200 points)
295 (9). Callum Todd - 55:32 (23.26%) (100 points)

Callum has a marginally higher percentage than Bradley because the 100% time from age 22 to 28 is 12:54, but for 29 (which Callum must be) it's 12:55. We also saw Matt Bayfield walking his dog.

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 7769
2. Dan Byrom - 4348
3. Fiona Titcombe - 3625
4. Gevin Chapwell - 3089
5. Bradley Horrocks - 3062
6. Samuel Louis - 1700
7. Stephen Read - 1567
8. Mike Springett - 1471
9. Rachael Montgomery - 1366
10. David Hilton - 1223
11. Chris Marshall - 1078
12. Dave Ryan - 900
13. Dave Robjohns - 842
14. Jonathan Wynn - 833
15. Oliver Garner - 750
16. Joseph Henry - 700
17. Eeshan Malhotra - 600
=. Fiona Thorne - 600
=. Suzy Turner - 600
20. Callum Todd - 544
21. Adam Latchford - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
23. Adam Beach - 222
24. Adam Dexter - 200
=. Tasneem Rana - 200
26. Melody Coupe - 111
27. Steven Grady - 100

38,500 from 77 scores, averaging 500.

And Thomas Carey is crowned the 2024 champion! His winning margin of 3419 would have been enough to beat all but Dan and Fiona!

[Gavin Chipper]

The hall of fame:

2017 - Gevin Chapwell (405 points)
2018 - Gevin Chapwell (410 points)
2019 - Gevin Chapwell (440.6 points)
2020-2022 - Callum Todd (6027 points)
2023 - Thomas Carey (5375 points)
2024 - Thomas Carey (7769 points)

From 2017 to 2019, the scoring range was between 0 and 100 points per parkrun rather than 0 and 1000.

Edited to add links to the results for each year.

[Thomas Carey]

because i said i'd do this two years ago:

2023 age grade table

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	points	events			colin	man	rug	leeds	brghton	dublin	newc	brum	london	bpool	btree	mk
fiona	5409	8			857		800	800	200		667	667		600		818
maus	4431	7			786		400	600	800				500	800		545
dan	2506	6			500	500		400			333		500			273
gevin	2338	3			929										500	909
mike	1143	2			643					500						
bradley	1078	2			714											364
jwynn	1036	2							400							636
callum	1011	3			429									400		182
david	971	2			571				400							
stephen	733	3					200					333		200		
suzy	727	1														727
gould	600	1					600									
dave	455	1														455
chris	434	3			143			200								91
dinos	357	1			357											
latch	286	1			286											
eeshan	214	1			214											
dex	71	1			71											

Fiona as predicted comfortably wins by doing the most of these things and being pretty solid at them all. happy enough with second here

[Thomas Carey]

and bc i might as well

2024 age grade table

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	points	events		colin	liv	rug	reading	sheff	oxford	durham	brum	london	bpool	dublin	glasgow	btree	mk
maus	7447	11		556		667	667	833	857	500			900	500	600	667	700
fiona	5768	11		778	500	778		500	429		800	250	700		400	333	300
dan	4237	6		667		889		667	714					500	800		
gevin	3339	4		889								750				800	900
bradley	2319	6		333					286	500	600		500				100
suzy	1400	2														600	800
stephen	1356	3			500	556							300				
mike	1271	3					500		571						200		
rachael	1266	3				333	333						600				
chris	1178	4		111				167				500	400				
david	1111	2		444		667											
samuel	1100	3										500				200	400
dave	1000	2														400	600
jwynn	833	2				333			500								
fi	800	1											800				
robjohn	587	2				444			143								
oli	500	1										500					
tass	500	1										500					
joseph	500	1															500
callum	422	2		222													200
eeshan	400	1									400						
latch	333	1						333									
melody	222	1				222											
dex	200	1									200						
tas	200	1											200				
beachy	111	1				111											
stevie	100	1											100				

chicken dinner. wtf am i doing with my life

[Gavin Chipper]

This is good work. And Fiona finally gets her championship.

[Gavin Chipper]

I thought I ought to do a PB update as it's the off-season. There have been improvements from Thomas Carey, Dan Byrom, Junaid Mubeen, Dave Robjohns, Joseph Henry, Melody Coupe and Suzy Turner. There were rumours that Thomas beat his PB by going the wrong way on the course, but we have been assured that he will beat this PB soon anyway rendering it irrelevant.

Right, I'm going to put up a ranking list of Countdown/Apterous parkrunners. I'll check it every so often to see if anyone's beaten their PB, and if anyone is really insistent that they don't want to be on the list, then I can remove their name. And if I've forgotten anyone, let me know and I can add them. This list is unlikely to be anywhere near exhaustive.

1. John Ashcroft - 15:15
2. Oliver Garner - 15:54
3. Max Allison - 17:05
4. Jonathan Rawlinson - 17:24
5. Tim Down - 17:45
6. Matt Bayfield - 17:56
7. Gevin Chapwell - 17:59
8. Paul Nixon 18:10
9. Tim Springett - 18:32
10. James Bradley - 19:04
11. James Laverty - 19:21
12. Thomas Carey - 19:27
13. Dan Spinks - 19:31
14. Giles Hutchings - 19:48
15. Dan Byrom - 19:55
16. Richard Barnett - 19:56
17. Andy Noden - 20:06
18. Conrad Teixeira - 20:07
19. Adam Gillard - 20:18
20. Tom Hargreaves - 20:20
21. Dave Nicholson - 20:27
22. Adam Latchford - 20:35
23. Michael Springett - 20:36
24. Ryan Taylor - 20:39
25. Matthew Tassier - 20:44
26. Junaid Mubeen - 20:48
27. Matt Gould - 20:59
28. Adam Curran - 21:14
29. Phil Hannan - 21:27
30. Jon Elmer - 21:30
31. Samuel Louis - 21:33
32. Bradley Horrocks - 21:56
33. Kirk Bevins - 21:58
=. Jon Corby - 21:58
35. Ian Volante - 22:01
36. Callum Todd - 22:18
=. Jonathan Wynn - 22:18
38. Tom Chafer-Cook - 22:27
39. David Williams - 22:38
40. Maria Chandler - 22:53
41. Richard Brittain - 22:55
42. David Hilton - 23:07
43. Dave Robjohns - 23:24
44. Noel McIlvenny - 23:25
45. James Wilson - 23:38
46. Stephen Read - 23:47
47. Jon O'Neill - 24:10
48. Kai Laddiman - 24:12
49. Joseph Henry - 24:17
50. Dave Ryan - 24:48
51. Zubair Patel - 24:56
52. Melody Coupe - 25:15
53. Elwin Carlos - 25:21
54. Rose Boyle - 25:33
55. Harry Whitehouse - 25:37
56. Dinos Sfyris - 26:12
57. Tom Feilding - 26:16
58. Lauren Hamer - 26:30
59. Colin Peet - 27:13
60. Fiona T - 27:34
61. Fiona Thorne - 27:52
62. Eeshan Malhotra 28:07
63. Suzy Turner - 28:20
64. Gerry Tynan - 28:43
65. Shirleyann Moran - 29:09
66. David Benson - 29:45
67. Sam Cappleman-Lynes - 29:55
68. Paul Talmey - 30:22
69. Florence Cappleman-Lynes - 30:38
70. Eddy Byrne - 31:04
71. Rachael Montgomery - 31:29
72. Tasneem Rana - 32:06
73. Chris Marshall - 33:15
74. Tom Rowell - 34:29
75. Adam Dexter - 35:37
76. Rachel Perkins - 36:40
77. Jack Worsley - 36:53
78. Adam Beach - 41:47
79. Noel Pereira - 44:14
80. Steven Grady - 55:07

[Gavin Chipper]

I've updated the percentage list. As well as the seven people mentioned in the previous post, Richard Barnett improved his percentage but without improving his PB. The benefits of getting older...

OK, so here is the age-grade percentage list for you to look at. Some people have gone up; some people have gone down compared to the time list. You can see what has happened to you. A few random highlights - Tim Springett has gone from 8th to 3rd; David Williams has gone from 36th to 6th; Matthew Tassier has gone from 25th to 10th; Harry Whitehouse from 46th to 13th; Fiona T from 53rd to 21st. Interestingly Mike Springett has leapfrogged a few people and gone from 20th to 18th. He was in the 18-19 category when he got his best percentage, but there's not that much difference between that and being in your 20s I think. I think what did it for him was that he set his time in 2011, and they used to have different (easier) tables, so it's a bit of a hack! (Edit - Since this list is continually updated, the previous text isn't necessarily up to date.)

1. John Ashcroft - 84.59%
2. Oliver Garner - 81.13%
3. Tim Springett - 80.22%
4. Gevin Chapwell - 77.66%
5. Tim Down - 76.90%
6. David Williams - 76.22%
7. Max Allison - 75.51%
8. Paul Nixon 74.30%
9. Jonathan Rawlinson - 74.14%
10. Matt Bayfield - 73.88%
11. Matthew Tassier - 71.70%
12. James Bradley - 69.72%
13. Dan Spinks - 68.92%
14. Harry Whitehouse - 68.84%
15. Andy Noden - 67.91%
16. Shirleyann Moran - 67.49%
17. Richard Barnett - 67.02%
18. James Laverty - 66.67%
19. Matt Gould - 66.56%
20. Thomas Carey - 66.32%
21. Junaid Mubeen - 65.63%
22. Maria Chandler - 65.19%
23. Giles Hutchings - 65.15%
24. Dan Byrom - 64.77%
25. Michael Springett - 64.72%
26. Conrad Teixeira - 64.13%
27. Fiona T - 63.97%
28. Jon Elmer - 63.87%
29. Adam Gillard - 63.55%
30. Tom Hargreaves - 63.44%
31. Dave Nicholson - 63.08%
32. Jon Corby - 63.00%
33. Adam Curran - 62.79%
34. Adam Latchford - 62.67%
35. Ryan Taylor - 62.47%
36. Suzy Turner - 62.24%
37. Ian Volante - 61.50%
38. Phil Hannan - 60.30%
39. Colin Peet - 59.95%
40. Samuel Louis - 59.86%
41. Jonathan Wynn - 59.49%
42. Rose Boyle - 59.23%
43. Dave Ryan - 59.01%
44. Bradley Horrocks - 58.81%
45. Kirk Bevins - 58.80%
46. Melody Coupe - 58.75%
47. Tom Chafer-Cook - 58.43%
48. Callum Todd - 57.85%
49. Fiona Thorne - 57.53%
50. David Hilton - 57.13%
51. Richard Brittain - 56.29%
52. Noel McIlvenny - 56.01%
53. Lauren Hamer - 55.85%
54. Stephen Read - 55.78%
55. Dave Robjohns - 55.13%
56. James Wilson - 54.72%
57. Joseph Henry - 54.29%
58. Jon O'Neill - 53.38%
59. Kai Laddiman - 53.31%
60. Tasneem Rana - 52.86%
61. Zubair Patel - 52.34%
62. Elwin Carlos - 51.48%
63. David Benson - 50.81%
64. Tom Feilding - 50.51%
65. Gerry Tynan - 50.15%
66. Dinos Sfyris - 49.81%
67. Florence Cappleman-Lynes - 48.31%
68. Rachael Montgomery - 47.11%
69. Eeshan Malhotra 46.65%
70. Sam Cappleman-Lynes - 43.12%
71. Paul Talmey - 42.48%
72. Eddy Byrne - 41.52%
73. Chris Marshall - 41.05%
74. Rachel Perkins - 40.50%
75. Noel Pereira - 39.91%
76. Tom Rowell - 39.00%
77. Adam Dexter - 37.01%
78. Jack Worsley - 34.98%
79. Adam Beach - 30.87%
80. Steven Grady - 23.59%

[Fiona T]

New course ranking list https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZZpmGa6Yyk (haven't found a text version but I'm sure there is one and the video's a good watch anyway)

[Dave Robjohns]

https://www.thepowerof10.info/content/i ... temid=1706 for the full list!

[Gavin Chipper]

This looks exciting. Thank you both for the links.

[Thomas Carey]

Any chance of one of those for foreign (specifically German) runs?

Eight (gev dan me bra fona dex chris cal) of us at wanker on Saturday, I think just Dave R and Mike at yarb.

[Gavin Chipper]

Right then, we had the first event of the year at Lincoln. 8 of us did Newark and 2 did Yarborough Leisure Centre. Starting with Newark:

2 (1). Gevin Chapwell - 19:58 (71.54%) (889 points)
8 (2). Dan Byrom - 21:15 (60.71%) (778 points)
14 (3). Thomas Carey - 22:00 (58.64%) (667 points)
70 (4). Bradley Horrocks - 27:18 (47.25%) (556 points)
180 (5). Fiona Titcombe - 35:01 (51.69%) (444 points)
196 (6). Adam Dexter - 36:10 (36.68%) (333 points)
221 (7). Chris Marshall - 38:54 (35.60%) (222 points)
222 (8). Callum Todd - 38:55 (33.19%) (111 points)

Yarborough Leisure Centre:

51 (1). Mike Springett - 23:21 (55.53%) (667 points)
53 (2). Dave Robjohns - 23:33 (54.78%) (333 points)

Very close race there, but 334 points difference between them! Anyway, the table:

1. Gevin Chapwell - 19:58 (71.54%) (889 points)
2. Dan Byrom - 21:15 (60.71%) (778 points)
3. Thomas Carey - 22:00 (58.64%) (667 points)
=. Mike Springett - 23:21 (55.53%) (667 points)
5. Bradley Horrocks - 27:18 (47.25%) (556 points)
6. Fiona Titcombe - 35:01 (51.69%) (444 points)
7. Adam Dexter - 36:10 (36.68%) (333 points)
=. Dave Robjohns - 23:33 (54.78%) (333 points)
9. Chris Marshall - 38:54 (35.60%) (222 points)
10. Callum Todd - 38:55 (33.19%) (111 points)

5000 points from 10 scores, averaging 500.

By the way, as you probably know people can do any parkrun and go to the CO-event for it to count, including doing their home parkrun before setting out. However, there was some discussion about whether it should count if someone had just just the Friday event and gone home and then done their home parkrun. Or done their home parkrun on Saturday and then turned up on Sunday for the CO-event. What do you think? If, for example, there had only been a Friday or Sunday event and no-one at all had stayed over and done a parkrun near the CO-event, then it would seem weird for people's local parkruns to count. But then, what if one person had stayed over for the parkrun? Would that mean that it should count and therefore everyone else's as well? It's a minefield.

[Gavin Chipper]

Do we know who ran at Liverpool?

[Stephen R]

Tom Carey did Burnage, I did Warrington. I think we were the only two.

[Gavin Chipper]

Liverpool then. Burnage:

23 (1). Thomas Carey - 21:56 (58.81%) (500 points)

Warrington:

85 (1). Stephen Read - 24:28 (54.97%) (500 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 1167
2. Gevin Chapwell - 889
3. Dan Byrom - 778
4. Mike Springett - 667
5. Bradley Horrocks - 556
6. Stephen Read - 500
7. Fiona Titcombe - 444
8. Adam Dexter - 333
=. Dave Robjohns - 333
10. Chris Marshall - 222
11. Callum Todd - 111

6000 points from 12 scores, averaging 500.

Oxford today as well, so another update will have to happen soon!

[Fiona T]

So CO:OX...

Oxford parkrun https://www.parkrun.org.uk/oxford/results/608/

Dan
Maus
Dave Ryan
Susie
Richard Barnett - new entry!
Fiona


Harcourt Hill https://www.parkrun.org.uk/harcourthill/results/446/

Dave Robjohns


Wycombe Rye https://www.parkrun.org.uk/wycomberye/results/573/

Samuel Louis



Shout if I missed anyone!

[Gavin Chipper]

Oxford then. Oxford parkrun:

22 (1). Dan Byrom - 20:29 (62.98%) (857 points)
43 (2). Thomas Carey - 21:54 (58.90%) (714 points)
52 (3). Richard Barnett - 22:28 (60.76%) (571 points)
293 (4). Dave Ryan - 30:07 (52.35%) (429 points)
334 (5). Suzy Turner - 31:14 (56.46%) (286 points)
376 (6). Fiona Titcombe - 33:07 (55.41%) (143 points)

Harcourt Hill:

26 (1). Dave Robjohns - 24:34 (52.51%) (500 points)

Wycombe Rye:

111 (1). Samuel Louis - 25:39 (50.29%) (500 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 1881
2. Dan Byrom - 1635
3. Gevin Chapwell - 889
4. Dave Robjohns - 833
5. Mike Springett - 667
6. Fiona Titcombe - 587
7. Richard Barnett - 571
8. Bradley Horrocks - 556
9. Stephen Read - 500
=. Samuel Louis - 500
11. Dave Ryan - 429
12. Adam Dexter - 333
13. Suzy Turner - 286
14. Chris Marshall - 222
15. Callum Todd - 111

10,000 points from 20 scores, averaging 500.

[Adam Dexter]

3 of us at Rugby (me, Oliver Garner and Samuel Stock)

1 at Holbrooks (Coventry) - Tom Carey.

Not sure of any others.

[Gavin Chipper]

Rugby:

1 (1). Oliver Garner - 18:34 (69.66%) (750 points)
44 (2). Samuel Louis - 26:50 (48.07%) (500 points)
105 (3). Adam Dexter - 35:41 (37.18%) (250 points)

An outright first place from Oliver Garner there. Nice. Also there was a Richard Brittain in 4th place.

Holbrooks:

9 (1). Thomas Carey - 22:51 (56.46%) (500 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 2381
2. Dan Byrom - 1635
3. Samuel Louis - 1000
4. Gevin Chapwell - 889
5. Dave Robjohns - 833
6. Oliver Garner - 750
7. Mike Springett - 667
8. Fiona Titcombe - 587
9. Adam Dexter - 583
10. Richard Barnett - 571
11. Bradley Horrocks - 556
12. Stephen Read - 500
13. Dave Ryan - 429
14. Suzy Turner - 286
15. Chris Marshall - 222
16. Callum Todd - 111

12,000 points from 24 scores, averaging 500.

[Gavin Chipper]

At London we had those of us at Ingrebourne Hill, and Samuel Louis and Oliver Garner did separate ones. Was there anyone else?

[Thomas Carey]

At London we had those of us at Ingrebourne Hill, and Samuel Louis and Oliver Garner did separate ones. Was there anyone else?

Byron tassier springett

[Gavin Chipper]

At London we had those of us at Ingrebourne Hill, and Samuel Louis and Oliver Garner did separate ones. Was there anyone else?

Byron tassier springett

Thanks. It probably got mentioned to me on the day. Lord Byron isn't one you'd expect to forget.

[Gavin Chipper]

London!!! 12th April. Ingrebourne Hill:

10 (1). Thomas Carey - 20:28 (63.03%) (750 points)
35 (2). Gevin Chapwell - 23:48 (60.50%) (500 points)
108 (3). Fiona Titcombe - 33:07 (55.41%) (250 points)

Also an honourable mention to Jono who ran a solid 23:45 (34th overall) but was disqualified for not going to CO:LON.

Bushy Park:

9 (1). Oliver Garner - 17:38 (73.35%) (500 points)

Northala Fields:

31 (1). Matthew Tassier - 21:25 (69.96%) (500 points)

Hampstead Heath:

36 (1). Dan Byrom - 22:06 (58.37%) (500 points)

Wycombe Rye:

106 (1). Samuel Louis - 25:01 (51.57%) (500 points)

Bromley:

138 (1). Mike Springett - 23:28 (55.26%) (500 points)

That's it I think. 8 people but at 6 separate parkruns! That's got to be some sort of record.

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 3131
2. Dan Byrom - 2135
3. Samuel Louis - 1500
4. Gevin Chapwell - 1389
5. Oliver Garner - 1250
6. Mike Springett - 1167
7. Fiona Titcombe - 837
8. Dave Robjohns - 833
9. Adam Dexter - 583
10. Richard Barnett - 571
11. Bradley Horrocks - 556
12. Stephen Read - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
14. Dave Ryan - 429
15. Suzy Turner - 286
16. Chris Marshall - 222
17. Callum Todd - 111

16,000 points from 32 scores, averaging 500.

[Gavin Chipper]

Carey also wrote the run report for Ingrebourne Hill.

[Gavin Chipper]

Who did parkrun at Sheffield?

[Thomas Carey]

Who did parkrun at Sheffield?

just me and dan i think despite adrian fletcher's best efforts

[Gavin Chipper]

Was Adrian Fletcher intending on doing a parkrun?

Anyway, nice to see that neither of you put the parkrun name in your Strava description, or went to the parkrun that actually has Sheffield in its title! And you went to different parkruns! Endcliffe:

106 (1). Thomas Carey - 22:05 (58.42%) (500 points)

Hillsborough:

51 (1). Dan Byrom - 21:34 (59.81%) (500 points)

And the table (with very little for me to change, just turn a couple of 1s into 6s):

1. Thomas Carey - 3631
2. Dan Byrom - 2635
3. Samuel Louis - 1500
4. Gevin Chapwell - 1389
5. Oliver Garner - 1250
6. Mike Springett - 1167
7. Fiona Titcombe - 837
8. Dave Robjohns - 833
9. Adam Dexter - 583
10. Richard Barnett - 571
11. Bradley Horrocks - 556
12. Stephen Read - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
14. Dave Ryan - 429
15. Suzy Turner - 286
16. Chris Marshall - 222
17. Callum Todd - 111

17,000 points from 34 scores, averaging 500.

[Gavin Chipper]

We've discussed age-graded scores on here before and I've previously claimed that it's biased to older people and women, and I think even more so old women. At the parkrun I was at today there were four people ahead of me on the age grading. They were:

1. 73F - 26:16- 89.15%
2. 71F - 28:13 - 80.21%
3. 75M - 23:46 - 79.73%
4. 61F - 25:26 - 76.28%

The top 3 are all in their 70s and 4th in her 60s. Sure, I could have cherry picked this one parkrun but it is something I've generally noticed.

But look at 1 v 3. A woman of "prime" age would get 56.36% with a time of 26:16. A "prime" man getting 23:46 would score 54.28%. I would say there's already a female bias at prime age (14:48 is easier for a woman than 12:54 for a man - the 100% times). But anyway these scores are quite close but in their 70s even though the woman is two years younger she's nearly 10% up. I don't know of any evidence that female runners age worse than men - if anything you'd expect the opposite based on the general population.

It's obviously based on very sparse statistics anyway at that age and it's not a professional sport at all so the standard will be much lower than at "prime" age even taking into account age differences.

The conclusion is that older women massively benefit from this system.

Edit - And don't get me started on London Marathon good for age times.

[Ian Volante]

I believe there's evidence that older women are relatively better at endurance events than older blokes.

[Fiona T]

I don't know of any evidence that female runners age worse than men ...

Have you looked for evidence?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1825000035

[Gavin Chipper]

I don't know of any evidence that female runners age worse than men ...

Have you looked for evidence?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 1825000035

Actually no but thanks. I will read that. Well my main evidence is indirect - more older women getting super high percentages including over 100% than men.

[Gavin Chipper]

I've largely read the paper. It uses the world record times, which the age-grading system largely uses, so it would have the same potential problems. It does talk about the problem of "soft records" but has no way to properly account for it.

The third conclusion is that except for the swimming events there is more decline for women than for men, with the largest differences for the running events. This conclusion is, however, tentative because of the soft data problem. If the data are softer for older women than for older men, there will be in the future more records broken by women than by men, which in the estimation is likely to lower the decline rates more for women than for men. Will this be enough to eliminate the differences? It seems unlikely that the current estimates are this biased, but time will tell.

Whether or not the soft records fully account for the difference in men's and women's declines doesn't really matter. It only needs for there to be any bias at all to make it easier for older women to get higher percentages than older men. Anecdotally they do. So this paper hasn't really done much to change my opinion.

[Fiona T]

Co:TW parkruns

Fiona did Sperryes Winery

Samuel Louis and Steve Anderson did Royal Tunbridge Wells

Mike said he did Bromley but can't see him on the results - perhaps an unknown?

[Gavin Chipper]

Co:TW parkruns

Fiona did Sperryes Winery

Samuel Louis and Steve Anderson did Royal Tunbridge Wells

Mike said he did Bromley but can't see him on the results - perhaps an unknown?

Springett? There's nothing on his profile to say he did a parkrun today. Hmm. There don't appear to be photos for today's parkrun on the Bromley parkrun Facebook page either.

You are the ref.

[Fiona T]

Co:TW parkruns

Fiona did Sperryes Winery

Samuel Louis and Steve Anderson did Royal Tunbridge Wells

Mike said he did Bromley but can't see him on the results - perhaps an unknown?

Springett? There's nothing on his profile to say he did a parkrun today. Hmm. There don't appear to be photos for today's parkrun on the Bromley parkrun Facebook page either.

You are the ref.

I'll ask him

[Fiona T]

Co:TW parkruns

Fiona did Sperryes Winery

Samuel Louis and Steve Anderson did Royal Tunbridge Wells

Mike said he did Bromley but can't see him on the results - perhaps an unknown?

Springett? There's nothing on his profile to say he did a parkrun today. Hmm. There don't appear to be photos for today's parkrun on the Bromley parkrun Facebook page either.

You are the ref.

I'll ask him

He's got a result now

[Thomas Cappleman]

Someone I know has to do a project on an aspect of culture of her choice, and has chosen parkrun. If any of the regular parkrunners here see this by the end of the weekend, could you fill in this form please? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... w/viewform

[Gavin Chipper]

Someone I know has to do a project on an aspect of culture of her choice, and has chosen parkrun. If any of the regular parkrunners here see this by the end of the weekend, could you fill in this form please? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIp ... w/viewform

Sorry, I was on holiday in Finland and didn't get round to looking at this.

Edit - I've just done it now anyway in case it's not too late.

[Gavin Chipper]

Tunbridge Wells (finally). Squerryes Winery:

117 (1). Fiona Titcombe - 35:36 (51.54%) (500 points)

Royal Tunbridge Wells:

21 (1). Steve Anderson - 21:17 (60.69%) (667 points)
58 (2). Samuel Louis - 24:07 (53.49%) (333 points)

Bromley parkrun:

209 (1). Mike Springett - 24:14 (53.51%) (500 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 3631
2. Dan Byrom - 2635
3. Samuel Louis - 1833
4. Mike Springett - 1667
5. Gevin Chapwell - 1389
6. Fiona Titcombe - 1337
7. Oliver Garner - 1250
8. Dave Robjohns - 833
9. Steve Anderson - 667
10. Adam Dexter - 583
11. Richard Barnett - 571
12. Bradley Horrocks - 556
13. Stephen Read - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
15. Dave Ryan - 429
16. Suzy Turner - 286
17. Chris Marshall - 222
18. Callum Todd - 111

19,000 points from 38 scores, averaging 500.

[Gavin Chipper]

We've discussed age-graded scores on here before and I've previously claimed that it's biased to older people and women, and I think even more so old women. At the parkrun I was at today there were four people ahead of me on the age grading. They were:

1. 73F - 26:16- 89.15%
2. 71F - 28:13 - 80.21%
3. 75M - 23:46 - 79.73%
4. 61F - 25:26 - 76.28%

The top 3 are all in their 70s and 4th in her 60s. Sure, I could have cherry picked this one parkrun but it is something I've generally noticed.

But look at 1 v 3. A woman of "prime" age would get 56.36% with a time of 26:16. A "prime" man getting 23:46 would score 54.28%. I would say there's already a female bias at prime age (14:48 is easier for a woman than 12:54 for a man - the 100% times). But anyway these scores are quite close but in their 70s even though the woman is two years younger she's nearly 10% up. I don't know of any evidence that female runners age worse than men - if anything you'd expect the opposite based on the general population.

It's obviously based on very sparse statistics anyway at that age and it's not a professional sport at all so the standard will be much lower than at "prime" age even taking into account age differences.

The conclusion is that older women massively benefit from this system.

Edit - And don't get me started on London Marathon good for age times.

As a follow-up to this, on 31st May us geezers took the first five places in the age-graded list at my local parkrun - a very rare event.

[Gavin Chipper]

Steve Anderson isn't on the PB list so he'll have to go on the next update.

[Thomas Carey]

Steve Anderson isn't on the PB list so he'll have to go on the next update.

If you're doing this stuff with occasional attendees, my brother finally did one (barefoot the whole way with a break to climb a tree mid run), while my boy Sheamol has done loads

[Gavin Chipper]

Steve Anderson isn't on the PB list so he'll have to go on the next update.

If you're doing this stuff with occasional attendees, my brother finally did one (barefoot the whole way with a break to climb a tree mid run), while my boy Sheamol has done loads

So these guys have both done CO-events? Yeah, I can add them.

[Fiona T]

Co:Stockport - Samuel, Chris and I did Woodbank, and Mike did Northwich. Think that was it!

[Bradley Horrocks]

Co-Durham: Bradley and Samuel did Durham, Maus did Jesmond Dene

[Gavin Chipper]

Double update due then.

[Gavin Chipper]

Let's do this double update then. Stockport first. Woodbank parkrun:

31 (1). Samuel Louis - 24:22 (52.94%) (750 points)
159 (2). Fiona Titcombe - 35:00 (52.43%) (500 points)
182 (3). Chris Marshall - 38:52 (35.63%) (250 points)

Northwich:

67 (1). Mike Springett - 25:08 (51.72%) (500 points)

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 3631
2. Dan Byrom - 2635
3. Samuel Louis - 2583
4. Mike Springett - 2167
5. Fiona Titcombe - 1837
6. Gevin Chapwell - 1389
7. Oliver Garner - 1250
8. Dave Robjohns - 833
9. Steve Anderson - 667
10. Adam Dexter - 583
11. Richard Barnett - 571
12. Bradley Horrocks - 556
13. Stephen Read - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
15. Chris Marshall - 472
16. Dave Ryan - 429
17. Suzy Turner - 286
18. Callum Todd - 111

21,000 points from 42 scores, averaging 500.

[Gavin Chipper]

Durham then. Durham:

53 (1). Bradley Horrocks - 22:58 (56.17%) (667 points)
54 (2). Samuel Louis - 22:58 (56.17%) (333 points)

Looks like a photo finish!

Jesmond Dene (perhaps named after the actor Desmond Jeans?):

23 (1). Thomas Carey - 22:41 (56.87%) (500 points)

See also Gene Desmond.

And the table:

1. Thomas Carey - 4131
2. Samuel Louis - 2916
3. Dan Byrom - 2635
4. Mike Springett - 2167
5. Fiona Titcombe - 1837
6. Gevin Chapwell - 1389
7. Oliver Garner - 1250
8. Bradley Horrocks - 1223
9. Dave Robjohns - 833
10. Steve Anderson - 667
11. Adam Dexter - 583
12. Richard Barnett - 571
13. Stephen Read - 500
=. Matthew Tassier - 500
15. Chris Marshall - 472
16. Dave Ryan - 429
17. Suzy Turner - 286
18. Callum Todd - 111

22,500 points from 45 scores, averaging 500.

Carey still has a solid lead at the top and Samuel Louis is up to second.

[Gavin Chipper]

Did anyone at CO:Brum do a parkrun?