Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:28 pm
I haven't mentioned Owen Jones for a while, and I don't rely on him. I just think he puts points across well sometimes. The last video I linked to was from the ICJ. My arguments aren't one-dimensional and I have in any case explained why I have focused more on criticising Israel.
You "play the man" too much and it's not a good argumentation technique.
I get why you focus more on criticising Israel. I also focus more on criticising Israel.
I just say that not everybody who criticises Israel is of a sound mind and not with ill intentions.
And I gave OJ as an example, since he's the one you usually share (tried a couple of those, it's terrible), but this ICJ isn't much different, I listened to the first 10 minutes or so, and he just omits any part of that history that doesn't fit the speaker's opinion, and as a result putting many of his arguments out of context.
Look, you know my opinions by now. The the occupation must end, the Nakba displacement was to a large extend premeditated by the Jews of Palestine, Israel should seek a cease fire in Gaza, Israel does not do it more due to insane nationalists and politics than military goals, etc etc etc, much closer to you than to the average Israeli (not to mention the Bibi followers).
I just don't see the point, for example, in going back to that River to the sea discussion today, or the point in putting a half an hour out of context rant. Even if this guy has similar conclusions and a gorgeous robe.