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I had SKULLFUCK disallowed for KUF in a recent Aegilops game. Though, I think I was actually more disappointed that it would only have scored 6 if it were valid than it not being valid.
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Thank you, girlfriend's obsessive fiber arts hobby, for making me think that DESTASH^ is a much, much more logical and sensical word than STASHED.
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BULEMIC.
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Matt Morrison wrote:BULEMIC.
Your 5000th post.
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Matt Morrison wrote:BULEMIC.
Get your fingers out of your throat for long enough, and you'll find that it's BULIMIC.
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Fucks sake, I knew that. Sums up how well I'm playing these days.
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Yea it's an easy mistake to have made.

In Scrabble BUMELIA (a thorny tree) is a word. So if ABEILMU sits on your rack or comes up on Zyzzyva and you know there's an anagram it's easy to mess things up.
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BOOMBOX is apparently no good, quite surprised at that.

Also you can be a SKYWRITER, but you can't SKYWRITE.
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I had INSINCERENESSES for 15.

INSINCERENESSES? No, I'm afraid not.

...

We managed to find a 13 in SINCERENESSES.

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Steve Balog wrote:I had INSINCERENESSES for 15.

INSINCERENESSES? No, I'm afraid not.

...

We managed to find a 13 in SINCERENESSES.

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Heh - same case can be made for INSANENESSES (not valid) to SANENESSES (valid)...

Although I suppose in both senses it would have -ITY rather than -NESS(ES). Insincerity and insanity are both more efficient than insincereness(es) and insaneness(es).
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PHILTRUM.
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Mark Deeks wrote:PHILTRUM.
Don't get snotty about it.
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MISOPHONIA, especially since it's what the introduction was about today. I wondered why they didn't name it. Now I know.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:44 pm MISOPHONIA, especially since it's what the introduction was about today. I wondered why they didn't name it. Now I know.
Don't say the word! It will make our dictionary look stupid!
Also, at the end of the programme today, I noticed on the thing at the bottom of the screen it was talking about their "webpage". Not in I'm afraid!
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I've been (badly) playing some Hyper Nasty Letters Attacks recently and knew that RATIONALS was inexplicably not in the dictionary, because I'd confidently declared it before only to have it disallowed (probably more than once knowing me). But I was playing a game just now and DC came out with IRRATIONALS! WTF's going on with that?
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JimBentley wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:39 am I've been (badly) playing some Hyper Nasty Letters Attacks recently and knew that RATIONALS was inexplicably not in the dictionary, because I'd confidently declared it before only to have it disallowed (probably more than once knowing me). But I was playing a game just now and DC came out with IRRATIONALS! WTF's going on with that?
I have no explanation for that bizarre oddity. It’s just totally… oh, what’s the word?
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Thanks for resurrecting this thread.

Why has MEDIAS been taken out again? Is it not the plural of social media? "I have updated the company's social medias."
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Rhys Benjamin wrote: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:59 pm Thanks for resurrecting this thread.

Why has MEDIAS been taken out again? Is it not the plural of social media? "I have updated the company's social medias."
It's already a plural. The problem is that the plural is used for the singular too.
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I know that, etymologically speaking, it ought to be a plural noun, but in common usage "social medias" is definitely a thing.
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Rhys Benjamin wrote: Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:11 pm I know that, etymologically speaking, it ought to be a plural noun, but in common usage "social medias" is definitely a thing.
Only among idiots.
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SEEDINGS obviously. A bit of a joke omission.

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Yep. Number one on my list of weird omissions too. It's used *all the time* in sport.
Gavin Chipper wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:46 pm SEEDINGS obviously. A bit of a joke omission.

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TESSERACT. The 4-dimensional version of a square or cube, for those not in the know.

EDIT: it is in Scrabble though
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:46 pm SEEDINGS obviously. A bit of a joke omission.

Edit - Further discussion.
It won the 'most plausible non-word' prize at co:lon, 'coz we've all declared it
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Chirpsy
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What would that mean?
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:29 am What would that mean?
Flirtatious basically, but specifically in conversation. "Baz was getting all chirpsy with Shaz at the party".
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Adam Gillard wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:16 am
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:29 am What would that mean?
Flirtatious basically, but specifically in conversation. "Baz was getting all chirpsy with Shaz at the party".
I had no idea this word exisited, but CHIRPSE is in as a verb, but there's no listed adjective to go with it.

Interestingly, Apterous has CHIRPSING, as opposed to CHIRPSEING, although Lexico (the free version at least) doesn't specify which would be valid, and neither redirect to CHIRPSE if you enter them. (You can have e.g. WHINGEING and WHINGING.)
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:31 am
Adam Gillard wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:16 am
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:29 am What would that mean?
Flirtatious basically, but specifically in conversation. "Baz was getting all chirpsy with Shaz at the party".
I had no idea this word exisited, but CHIRPSE is in as a verb, but there's no listed adjective to go with it.

Interestingly, Apterous has CHIRPSING, as opposed to CHIRPSEING, although Lexico (the free version at least) doesn't specify which would be valid, and neither redirect to CHIRPSE if you enter them. (You can have e.g. WHINGEING and WHINGING.)
I feel it would be CHIRPSING only. Compare CORPSING (with laughter).
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Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
I suspect the dictionaries are based on frequency analysis of the Oxford Corpus, so Susie's probably right. If CHIRPSY or another word doesn't come up much in the publications used to build the corpus then it won't make the (more selective) dictionaries.
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Adam Gillard wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:23 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
I suspect the dictionaries are based on frequency analysis of the Oxford Corpus, so Susie's probably right. If CHIRPSY or another word doesn't come up much in the publications used to build the corpus then it won't make the (more selective) dictionaries.
I'm sure that's partly it, though the Corpus is supposed to be a good sample across the spectrum of how English is used, both formal and informal.

But I think also you get old words that are basically never used any more that just stick around (e.g. GOUTINESS). Sometimes newer words get in really quickly seemingly for the headlines, whereas other more boring ones take longer even though they're common enough (I seem to remember some lag around LAGGY). Plus I think offensive words have a higher bar for inclusion.

And SEEDINGS still isn't in.
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How is HAPHAZARDOUS not in!?
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Rhys Benjamin wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:23 pm How is HAPHAZARDOUS not in!?
Haphazard is an adjective. How would it be different?
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
The other day a word came up that Susie said is never used. Can't recall it right now. I'll have a think.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:08 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
The other day a word came up that Susie said is never used. Can't recall it right now. I'll have a think.
Might have been WAITRON.
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Unsure why tesseract isn’t in ODP.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:41 am
Gavin Chipper wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:08 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:28 pm Susie claimed today when a word got disallowed that it's all frequency-based. It definitely isn't.
The other day a word came up that Susie said is never used. Can't recall it right now. I'll have a think.
Might have been WAITRON.
She brought this up again the other day - that no-one uses this word.
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Philip A wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:36 am Unsure why tesseract isn’t in ODP.
Yeah, bit of a weird omission.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:46 am
Philip A wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:36 am Unsure why tesseract isn’t in ODP.
Yeah, bit of a weird omission.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:46 am
Philip A wrote: Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:36 am Unsure why tesseract isn’t in ODP.
Yeah, bit of a weird omission.
but muh low usage frequency!!!11
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I declared SUBFINITE in a game last month, assuming it would be valid, but it wasn't.... It's a mathematical term.
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Paul Worsley wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:41 pm I declared SUBFINITE in a game last month, assuming it would be valid, but it wasn't.... It's a mathematical term.
A lot of us got burned at Newcastle by bijects not being in. And rationals not being valid still surprises me
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seabass not being in another newcastle entry for ???

(aware it's two words if strictly speaking about the animal but it's not two words on every single food menu i've ever seen)
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:46 pm Beasted.
It's in as a verb so should be in.

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Can’t believe ‘eschalot’ is not in ODP at all!
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Is it me or has there been a QUOINER at one point?
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I was surprised by WEDGIED not being allowed at CO:MK
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Andres Sanchez wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 2:12 am Is it me or has there been a QUOINER at one point?
There's QUOITER, QUOILER and QUOINED.

Checking lexplorer, many of the game's best players have gone for it but it's never been in!
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Spick, spicker, spickest, spannest. SPAN and SPANNER are in though!
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am Spick, spicker, spickest, spannest. SPAN and SPANNER are in though!
Think it might be spic instead of spick, but honestly I woulda thought the same way as you when I first heard the phrase
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From Wikipedia:

The phrase "span-new" meant as new as a freshly cut wood chip, such as those once used to make spoons. In a metaphor dating from at least 1300, something span-new was neat and unstained.

Spic was added in the 16th century, as a "spick" (a spike or nail) was another metaphor for something neat and trim. The British phrase may have evolved from the Dutch spiksplinter nieuw, "spike-splinter new".[7] In 1665, Samuel Pepys used "spicke and span" in his famous diary. The "clean" sense appears to have arisen only recently.[8] The term is completely unrelated to the modern epithet spic.
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Gavin Chipper wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:22 pmLimbic.
Not just me then.
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