Strange Games

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:32 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1895

Every conundrum was got by Apterous on 4.5 secs. Strange. And Charlie got minced!

And I like the penultimate conundrum

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:19 pm

My personal record for number of genital words in one game is two: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9669

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:05 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=1895

Every conundrum was got by Apterous on 4.5 secs. Strange. And Charlie got minced!

I was trying to set a new record time by buzzing in straight away, but that only gives you 2 seconds to solve the conundrum, and we all know how good I am at those... Also I think the bots of old were a lot less random in the time it took them to get the conundrum, so that probably explains the 4.5s.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:55 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:My personal record for number of genital words in one game is two: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9669

God Ben, Ollie's only 14!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:07 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Ben Hunter wrote:My personal record for number of genital words in one game is two: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9669
God Ben, Ollie's only 14!

Exactly - it's about time he knew what a vagina was.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:52 pm

It was Kai who offered PENIS in the first round of my first match against him. By the way I DO know what a vagina is.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:03 am

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10246

Strange conundrum. I wonder if it's for making your pubes look nice? Or maybe it's just Jeremy Clarkson's comb.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:09 am

Apeterous Caesar could only muster a 1 in round 11 of this game, and even then he had some difficulty.

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10359

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:17 am

Haha FROTTAGE in round 1

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 9:31 am

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Haha FROTTAGE in round 1

Aye, there's the rub.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:35 am

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Haha FROTTAGE in round 1

After I finished my run on the TV I was in the audience for the next game and FROTTAGE appeared in the very first round. I was so annoyed that I never got to say it

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:52 pm

Um, I think we're getting sidetracked here. If you want to talk about that, open another topic. But not in my topic!

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:49 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10440
Guess which six letter word i was thinking of before i saw sucked

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:39 am

Oliver Garner wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10440
Guess which six letter word i was thinking of before i saw sucked

You could've played FUCKED too

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:05 am

Oliver Garner wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10440
Guess which six letter word i was thinking of before i saw sucked

I don't have a clue. Can you give us a hint?

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:50 am

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10563

R18 - easiest numbers game ever?

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:58 am

Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10563

R18 - easiest numbers game ever?

I have seen easier than that. For example, target 101, when 100 and 1 are both in the selection.

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:14 pm

Howard Somerset wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10563

R18 - easiest numbers game ever?
I have seen easier than that. For example, target 101, when 100 and 1 are both in the selection.

And still Prune manages to find a way to screw it up.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:40 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:
Howard Somerset wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10563

R18 - easiest numbers game ever?
I have seen easier than that. For example, target 101, when 100 and 1 are both in the selection.
And still Prune manages to find a way to screw it up.

Sometimes the bots miss easy numbers, but then they get a very hard numbers and it is baffling

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:53 pm

Joseph Bolas wrote: Sometimes the bots miss easy numbers, but then they get a very hard numbers and it is baffling

I tell you what is very strange - why don't you ever play humans? That way it's not as baffling. I'm baffled.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:00 pm

In a speed 9 against chris maudsley, i took him to a crucial conundrum with me 1 point down, with about one second left i did a random guess only to realise what it was halfway through my guess. fortunately chris had left the room and it didnt count. but we did replay the conundrum but neither player got it

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:48 pm

Oliver Garner wrote:In a speed 9 against chris maudsley, i took him to a crucial conundrum with me 1 point down, with about one second left i did a random guess only to realise what it was halfway through my guess. fortunately chris had left the room and it didnt count. but we did replay the conundrum but neither player got it

He always leaves the room when you beat him.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:14 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:Haha FROTTAGE in round 1
Aye, there's the rub.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:23 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:
Oliver Garner wrote:In a speed 9 against chris maudsley, i took him to a crucial conundrum with me 1 point down, with about one second left i did a random guess only to realise what it was halfway through my guess. fortunately chris had left the room and it didnt count. but we did replay the conundrum but neither player got it
He always leaves the room when you beat him.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of playing against him. I have been doing extensive conundrum practice this weekend as that is one of my weaknesses and he kept challenging me to a numbers shootout - I didn't want one of those as I don't need numbers practice (if he'd checked game browser, it was quite evident I was doing loads of conundrums) yet he still kept challenging me till I gave in, accepted, beat him, and the challenges stopped. Phew.

Jimmy Gough · Post by **Jimmy Gough** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:12 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11039

Dunno what happened with the conundrum

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:03 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Ben Hunter wrote:
Oliver Garner wrote:In a speed 9 against chris maudsley, i took him to a crucial conundrum with me 1 point down, with about one second left i did a random guess only to realise what it was halfway through my guess. fortunately chris had left the room and it didnt count. but we did replay the conundrum but neither player got it
He always leaves the room when you beat him.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of playing against him. I have been doing extensive conundrum practice this weekend as that is one of my weaknesses and he kept challenging me to a numbers shootout - I didn't want one of those as I don't need numbers practice (if he'd checked game browser, it was quite evident I was doing loads of conundrums) yet he still kept challenging me till I gave in, accepted, beat him, and the challenges stopped. Phew.

He wasn't even losing though and he still quit

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:34 pm

Oliver Garner wrote:He wasn't even losing though and he still quit

But if it was a crucial conundrum and you buzzed, he probably feared the worst.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:47 pm

Jimmy wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11039

Dunno what happened with the conundrum

You spelt it wrong.

Jimmy Gough · Post by **Jimmy Gough** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:27 am

Kai Laddiman wrote:
Jimmy wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11039

Dunno what happened with the conundrum
You spelt it wrong.

No. I got the points. I spelt it right.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:20 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I tell you what is very strange - why don't you ever play humans? That way it's not as baffling. I'm baffled.

After Kirk said this about me, then I suppose in his eyes (at least), this would be classed as a "Strange Game"

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:38 pm

Joseph Bolas wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:I tell you what is very strange - why don't you ever play humans? That way it's not as baffling. I'm baffled.
After Kirk said this about me, then I suppose in his eyes (at least), this would be classed as a "Strange Game"

Excellent. Yes, it is very strange.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:44 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=7904

4 nines in 1 game?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:47 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=7904

4 nines in 1 game?

And this beast.

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=922

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:52 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=10891

Prune was declaring 3's and 4's when you had 9's.

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:54 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=2008

Surely Damian should have got MORPHINE!

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:03 pm

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9035

Seven 9's?! And PETITION + S...

Edit: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9213

Eight 9's?! And REQUITAL + S...

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:15 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9035

Seven 9's?! And PETITION + S...

Edit: http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=9213

Eight 9's?! And REQUITAL + S...

These are both Goatdown games, so these records can definitely be beaten

Depending on who you play against and how good they know unusual/uncommon 9's, I am going to say that you may be able to get fifteen 9's maybe (or 20 if you stop the J, Q, X and Z coming out

).

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:22 am

What are the chances of getting the same conundrum twice in 1 game?

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?ga ... game=11704

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:26 pm

In round 1 of this game:

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11974

I noted OXTAIL, then OXALIC. When it came time to declare, I figured the ODE (with its bizarre ideas about hyphenation) might not like OXTAIL, so I went for OXALIC as the 'safe' option - and it was disallowed. Anyone any idea why? Is it that it doesn't have an entry to itself, only appearing as part of the term 'oxalic acid'? If so, that seems a somewhat harsh rule. It's still a word.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:46 pm

Phil Reynolds wrote:In round 1 of this game:

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11974

I noted OXTAIL, then OXALIC. When it came time to declare, I figured the ODE (with its bizarre ideas about hyphenation) might not like OXTAIL, so I went for OXALIC as the 'safe' option - and it was disallowed. Anyone any idea why? Is it that it doesn't have an entry to itself, only appearing as part of the term 'oxalic acid'? If so, that seems a somewhat harsh rule. It's still a word.

OXALIC does indeed only appear with OXALIC ACID and is therefore classed as a compound word (excuse the slight chemical pun). Chris Wills had MISTLE disallowed but it occurs as part of MISTLE THRUSH. It's part of the rules as you'd never use the word OXALIC without ACID attached to it --- apparently.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:51 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Phil Reynolds wrote:In round 1 of this game:

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=11974

I noted OXTAIL, then OXALIC. When it came time to declare, I figured the ODE (with its bizarre ideas about hyphenation) might not like OXTAIL, so I went for OXALIC as the 'safe' option - and it was disallowed. Anyone any idea why? Is it that it doesn't have an entry to itself, only appearing as part of the term 'oxalic acid'? If so, that seems a somewhat harsh rule. It's still a word.
OXALIC does indeed only appear with OXALIC ACID and is therefore classed as a compound word (excuse the slight chemical pun). Chris Wills had MISTLE disallowed but it occurs as part of MISTLE THRUSH. It's part of the rules as you'd never use the word OXALIC without ACID attached to it --- apparently.

Even so, it's still a word. But it might be to "ensure equality" with words that are the second part of compound words, and would be disallowed as you wouldn't be able to find them without looking them up by the first part. I'm not sure if there are any of these though.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:31 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Even so, it's still a word. But it might be to "ensure equality" with words that are the second part of compound words, and would be disallowed as you wouldn't be able to find them without looking them up by the first part. I'm not sure if there are any of these though.

Yeah, that's the reason for the rule in Scrabble and I believe the Countdown rule was drawn from there, although in Scrabble the rule has been loosened somewhat.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:19 am

Not sure if this is really that strange, but I've just had a go of the Hyper Numbers Attack and I have just noticed something about the last round.

The selection was 25, 5, 8, 8, 8, 1, 9 and 6, with the target being 9902. Now I couldn't get this in the 30 seconds, so I clicked on the total and tried to solve it, but failed. I did however get one away (9901) by doing:

8 * 8 * 6 = 384
8 + 9 - 5 = 12
384 + 12 = 396
396 x 25 = 9900
9900 + 1 = 9901

I had to therefore give up and quite surprisingly "Carol" could only get 2 away with 9900 (but not 1 away, like I had done, with 9901).

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 8:26 am

Joseph Bolas wrote:I had to therefore give up and quite surprisingly "Carol" could only get 2 away with 9900 (but not 1 away, like I had done, with 9901).

I did a Carol-beater in a hyper Duel once too (4th round of this game)

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:30 am

Joseph Bolas wrote: I had to therefore give up and quite surprisingly "Carol" could only get 2 away with 9900 (but not 1 away, like I had done, with 9901).

Yep, Carol only gets 5 seconds to think which is not much in Hyper, but I couldn't allow Hyper numbers games to crunch the server for everyone else, so occasionally she'll miss something.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:01 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Joseph Bolas wrote: I had to therefore give up and quite surprisingly "Carol" could only get 2 away with 9900 (but not 1 away, like I had done, with 9901).
Yep, Carol only gets 5 seconds to think which is not much in Hyper, but I couldn't allow Hyper numbers games to crunch the server for everyone else, so occasionally she'll miss something.

Even in normal games? So it might be possible for a game to have a max of 110 but you've scored say 113 as you got the numbers spot on and Carol thought 1 away was the closest you could get?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:31 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Even in normal games? So it might be possible for a game to have a max of 110 but you've scored say 113 as you got the numbers spot on and Carol thought 1 away was the closest you could get?

She solves most normal numbers games in around 0.2 seconds so it's very unlikely that she would miss anything. But admittedly it's not impossible, and the calculated max should really include Carol beaters, which currently it doesn't.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:47 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:Even in normal games? So it might be possible for a game to have a max of 110 but you've scored say 113 as you got the numbers spot on and Carol thought 1 away was the closest you could get?
She solves most normal numbers games in around 0.2 seconds so it's very unlikely that she would miss anything. But admittedly it's not impossible, and the calculated max should really include Carol beaters, which currently it doesn't.

OK - thanks for clearing that up mate.

Joseph Bolas · Post by **Joseph Bolas** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:33 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Joseph Bolas wrote: I had to therefore give up and quite surprisingly "Carol" could only get 2 away with 9900 (but not 1 away, like I had done, with 9901).
Yep, Carol only gets 5 seconds to think which is not much in Hyper, but I couldn't allow Hyper numbers games to crunch the server for everyone else, so occasionally she'll miss something.

Thank you for explaining that

. I beat Carol

yay me

So does that explain then, when sometimes you end a numbers round early and theres a pause before the solution box comes up, it's because Carol is thinking then of a solution for the numbers (incase you misdeclare/give up)?

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:20 pm

Joseph Bolas wrote:Thank you for explaining that . I beat Carol yay me

So does that explain then, when sometimes you end a numbers round early and theres a pause before the solution box comes up, it's because Carol is thinking then of a solution for the numbers (incase you misdeclare/give up)?

In Hyper, that might well be the reason. In Standard it's very unlikely to be Carol; it might either be the network or server being generally a bit slow, or (if you're playing a bot) it might be the bot thinking about its solution, which takes a bit longer than Carol does.

Oliver Garner · Post by **Oliver Garner** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 7:00 pm

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=12553
Liked round 6

Kai Laddiman · Post by **Kai Laddiman** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:57 am

I remember one game where Prune declared a word that was neither a real word nor was it in the selection

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:30 pm

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=12687

Besides me getting pissed off after round 11, two things here-

Rounds 7 & 8 have to be the easiest two consecutive numbers games ever, and-

Is this the first time Prune has ever effectively declared zero throughout the course of an entire game?

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 9:46 pm

Kai Laddiman wrote:I remember one game where Prune declared a word that was neither a real word nor was it in the selection

That's nothing. Once he/she/it declared a word that was both real and in the selection. I think for Prune that's probably rarer!

Jimmy Gough · Post by **Jimmy Gough** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 11:51 pm

The worst performance EVER from Caesar?

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13015

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:00 am

Jimmy wrote:The worst performance EVER from Caesar?

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=13015

Nope. http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=12901

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:23 pm

http://apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=15179

Even with it being on csw, where bots are stronger, I don't think I've ever seen prune play so well.

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:33 am

http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=16343

Round 6 is clearly divine intervention.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:02 am

Innis Carson wrote:http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=16343

Round 6 is clearly divine intervention.

Yeah, OCARINAS + T. Wow, OLO-whatever for the conundrum - quality spot Jim.

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:29 am

Was meaning the scramble, but I'll remember that as well.