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I was wondering what some of the memorable Countdown Contestants are doing now like Kai Laddieman, Jeffrey Handsford and Richard Brittain.
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My kind of thread. More names!
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Junaid, Kirk Bevans , Jimmy Gough and Oliver Garner to name a few.
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Richard Brittain (according to a conversation on Apterous some time) lives on my walk to work. Not actually spotted him, but he said he saw me one time.
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He's getting more skilled at his old hobby then?Thomas Cappleman wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 9:56 am Richard Brittain (according to a conversation on Apterous some time) lives on my walk to work. Not actually spotted him, but he said he saw me one time.
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I'm more interested in the more historic names - Harvey Freeman, Allan Saldanha, for example.
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Oliver Garner won CO:LON the other day. Kirk Bevins is refereeing darts games.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 9:01 am Junaid, Kirk Bevans , Jimmy Gough and Oliver Garner to name a few.
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I thought Oliver Garner was dabbling in the dark arts ( Scrabble )Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:23 amOliver Garner won CO:LON the other day. Kirk Bevins is refereeing darts games.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 9:01 am Junaid, Kirk Bevans , Jimmy Gough and Oliver Garner to name a few.
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Stewart Holden runs my local pub quiz.
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Great thread.
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Harvey Freeman was always a bit of an enigma, wasn't he? Nobody seems to know anything much about him at all. I've tried in the past to find out about his life outside of Countdown and have always turned up nothing. I've always thought this a bit odd, as you would think there would be some contemporary newspaper reports or something that might give a bit of background, but if there are, I can't find them. Maybe he used a pseudonym?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:22 am I'm more interested in the more historic names - Harvey Freeman, Allan Saldanha, for example.
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No doubt Gevin will remember all this and find a link, but I think when this came up years ago someone said he was an accountant, and they'd seen him at a job interview or something. And someone else was amazed at how mundane this was, they had always imagined that he lived in a castle, with servants. Which, to be honest, was how I pictured him as well. I think I've also seen pictures of him at Richard Whiteley's funeral.JimBentley wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:50 pmHarvey Freeman was always a bit of an enigma, wasn't he? Nobody seems to know anything much about him at all. I've tried in the past to find out about his life outside of Countdown and have always turned up nothing. I've always thought this a bit odd, as you would think there would be some contemporary newspaper reports or something that might give a bit of background, but if there are, I can't find them. Maybe he used a pseudonym?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:22 am I'm more interested in the more historic names - Harvey Freeman, Allan Saldanha, for example.
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Here it is. But it says IT.David Williams wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 7:55 pmNo doubt Gevin will remember all this and find a link, but I think when this came up years ago someone said he was an accountant, and they'd seen him at a job interview or something. And someone else was amazed at how mundane this was, they had always imagined that he lived in a castle, with servants. Which, to be honest, was how I pictured him as well. I think I've also seen pictures of him at Richard Whiteley's funeral.JimBentley wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 6:50 pmHarvey Freeman was always a bit of an enigma, wasn't he? Nobody seems to know anything much about him at all. I've tried in the past to find out about his life outside of Countdown and have always turned up nothing. I've always thought this a bit odd, as you would think there would be some contemporary newspaper reports or something that might give a bit of background, but if there are, I can't find them. Maybe he used a pseudonym?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri May 18, 2018 11:22 am I'm more interested in the more historic names - Harvey Freeman, Allan Saldanha, for example.
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What!? David Stainer was part of Gev4C years ago?! I had absolutely zero idea he was even remotely into Countdown, let alone part of Gevin's world.
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I repeat, great thread.
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Also forumites like Zeff , Sue Sanders, Mr Hargreaves,
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
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Hargreaves is doing fine - I speak to him on a semi-regular basis. Robbo more I believe as I think they both end up at Huddersfield games.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:36 am Also forumites like Zeff , Sue Sanders, Mr Hargreaves,
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
Possibly the first contestant to accelerate with a mic clipped...
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How did you get to know Hargreaves? He disappeared off the scene years ago didn't he?Zarte Siempre wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 12:00 amHargreaves is doing fine - I speak to him on a semi-regular basis. Robbo more I believe as I think they both end up at Huddersfield games.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:36 am Also forumites like Zeff , Sue Sanders, Mr Hargreaves,
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
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From the rival forum that was created about 7 or 8 years ago during the inner sanctumgate
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Sorry I should have put that in quotes.
It's quite possible I may have mixed him up with Derek Hazell
It's quite possible I may have mixed him up with Derek Hazell
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I did meet Zeff at a Scrabble tournament in Essex many years ago and it was only because he was an early keyboard warrior in the Scrabble community tooMarc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:36 am Also forumites like Zeff , Sue Sanders, Mr Hargreaves,
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
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Anyone know the whereabouts of Paul Gallen, or Fell's conqueror Graham Nash?
If I recall rightly, Fell himself is working as a lawyer nowadays?
If I recall rightly, Fell himself is working as a lawyer nowadays?
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We met at Reading 2013. Got on OK, stayed in touch. When one of us posts about something the other's interested in (usually still Countdown-related - he still watches the show) we tend to have a chat about it. Trying to convince him to come to an event or two. Good bloke.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:04 amHow did you get to know Hargreaves? He disappeared off the scene years ago didn't he?Zarte Siempre wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 12:00 amHargreaves is doing fine - I speak to him on a semi-regular basis. Robbo more I believe as I think they both end up at Huddersfield games.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat May 19, 2018 5:36 am Also forumites like Zeff , Sue Sanders, Mr Hargreaves,
Also various flouncers, too many to mention.( plus I've forgotten most of their names )
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He writes a weekly Scrabble column for The Times.
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Took over from Allan (cheat ) Simmons
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What happened?Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 5:18 pmTook over from Allan (cheat ) Simmons
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He got caught cheating last year and has been banned for two years and had to give trophies back but not prize money AFAIK.
I believe he repeatedly overdrew tiles and palmed or cherry picked them.
I think it made the newspapers.
Probably not the Times though.
He hasn't admitted guilt nor apologised.
Also not contesting the ban.
It's a very sensitive and divisive situation as he is or was a well respected member of the ABSP and has written many books.
I can't believe a man of his calibre (probably one of the ten best players in the UK ) needed to do it
I believe he repeatedly overdrew tiles and palmed or cherry picked them.
I think it made the newspapers.
Probably not the Times though.
He hasn't admitted guilt nor apologised.
Also not contesting the ban.
It's a very sensitive and divisive situation as he is or was a well respected member of the ABSP and has written many books.
I can't believe a man of his calibre (probably one of the ten best players in the UK ) needed to do it
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Made the NY Times!Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 7:20 pm He got caught cheating last year and has been banned for two years and had to give trophies back but not prize money AFAIK.
I believe he repeatedly overdrew tiles and palmed or cherry picked them.
I think it made the newspapers.
Probably not the Times though.
He hasn't admitted guilt nor apologised.
Also not contesting the ban.
It's a very sensitive and divisive situation as he is or was a well respected member of the ABSP and has written many books.
I can't believe a man of his calibre (probably one of the ten best players in the UK ) needed to do it
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A bit off topic, but I found myself looking into Scrabble stuff - Craig Beevers appears to be the only world champion not to have his own Wikipedia article.
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Quite surprised at some of the names mentioned here. Tom Hargreaves is still very much around; I don't think I've met him in person since the very first COLIN but we've been friends on Facebook for a while and by all accounts is having a good time. Kirk, obviously is a superstar darts caller and can regularly be seen on your tellies (if you watch darts). Sue Sanders is also a Facebook friend since we went on a hot ride on the back seat of a car together at another COLIN (can't remember who was driving) and she regularly comments on my posts about buying tat from Amazon. Jimmy Gough seems much happier now and is getting married soon. David Stainer, of course, is a big-shot in quizzing and was a member of the old forum around the time that he was on the show; he won four games but was surprisingly - surprisingly to me anyway, because I thought he was going to win all eight - beaten in his fifth.
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He hasn't got one for being chucked out the ABSP for his , shall we say, colourful opinions on HIS own Facebook page.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:41 pm A bit off topic, but I found myself looking into Scrabble stuff - Craig Beevers appears to be the only world champion not to have his own Wikipedia article.
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More details please! Though I'm still not sure why that would affect him having a Wikipedia article.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:37 pmHe hasn't got one for being chucked out the ABSP for his , shall we say, colourful opinions on HIS own Facebook page.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:41 pm A bit off topic, but I found myself looking into Scrabble stuff - Craig Beevers appears to be the only world champion not to have his own Wikipedia article.
Edit - He has got one, but it wasn't linked to on that other page.
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You are right I was just being flippant.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 8:24 pmMore details please! Though I'm still not sure why that would affect him having a Wikipedia article.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 5:37 pmHe hasn't got one for being chucked out the ABSP for his , shall we say, colourful opinions on HIS own Facebook page.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon May 21, 2018 4:41 pm A bit off topic, but I found myself looking into Scrabble stuff - Craig Beevers appears to be the only world champion not to have his own Wikipedia article.
Edit - He has got one, but it wasn't linked to on that other page.
As for his removal from the ABSP committee, I think it was farcical as what you post on your own private Facebook page should not have any bearing on being in a committee.
He has said mani Anti Muslim posts .
Some of his posts got a little out of hand and the ABSP thought that his views did no reflect the views of the ABSP..
You could say his vocal ' Outing ' of the ' cheat ' mentioned in an earlier post may have had something to do with it.
I don't agree with many of his anti Muslim views but he should have a right to post any shit he likes on his private page.
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He does have the right to post any shit he likes - well, sorta - but they also have a right to not want to be associated with a person who does that.
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Valid point but to put it into contextMark Deeks wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 1:53 am He does have the right to post any shit he likes - well, sorta - but they also have a right to not want to be associated with a person who does that.
One man shakes the ABSP tree from within to out a virtual cover up of a cheat
Then gets chucked out of same committee for airing some controversial views on the teachings of the Koran
Which was in the heat of the moment after a terrorist atrocity.
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I think most word games would rather do without islamophobes AND cheats, it's not like they need to choose whichever is worse and only remove one lot.
From what I remember of Beevers on here, something tells me his efforts to out a cheat would have served some personal gain rather than been purely for the love of the game too.
From what I remember of Beevers on here, something tells me his efforts to out a cheat would have served some personal gain rather than been purely for the love of the game too.
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I think he has a thing about cheats. He was berating John Higgins at the snooker this year (I believe he was once found guilty of throwing games ).Matt Morrison wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 9:29 am I think most word games would rather do without islamophobes AND cheats, it's not like they need to choose whichever is worse and only remove one lot.
From what I remember of Beevers on here, something tells me his efforts to out a cheat would have served some personal gain rather than been purely for the love of the game too.
I think Mr Handsford btw wasn't a cheat but bent the rules a bit.
I'm guessing that's what you was alluding to
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Not sure, but he turned up at my quiz a few years ago if I remember right, I suspect he was grumpy that one of his team-mates outed him, don't think he's returned since.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:39 am If I recall rightly, Fell himself is working as a lawyer nowadays?
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I seem to remember someone from the Countdown world contacting him once and he threw a fit about it. "How the Hell did you find my e-mail address?" etc. That was the story anyway.Ian Volante wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 11:37 amNot sure, but he turned up at my quiz a few years ago if I remember right, I suspect he was grumpy that one of his team-mates outed him, don't think he's returned since.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 8:39 am If I recall rightly, Fell himself is working as a lawyer nowadays?
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There was quite a lot of this online during the World Championships last month, but wasn't it just one the News of the World's entrapments by "fake sheikh" Mazher Mahmood? The "video proof" will have been edited to look as damning as possible, because that was always the evidence that supposedly backed up the stories, but as far as I know the unedited footage has never been publicly seen. Given that Mahmood actually went to prison for perverting the course of justice due to misleading "evidence" that he presented in a court case relating to a later story, I don't really know why so many people automatically assume that Higgins was guilty at all.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 10:38 amI think he has a thing about cheats. He was berating John Higgins at the snooker this year (I believe he was once found guilty of throwing games ).
Sure, he was guilty of naivety in meeting with Mahmood, but we don't even know how much of that was a setup in the first place. Being naive isn't a crime. As far as I know, he's never been actually caught throwing matches or even single frames. And given the way he plays - he's probably the most tenacious player on the circuit and will work to win even the most unlikely frames - I'd be amazed if he had. I might be completely wrong but everything I've seen of him over the last 25 years suggests that he's pretty straight-down-the-line.
Anyway, back on topic. Anyone know anything about what the following people are doing now: Matt Shore, Mike Pullin, Lee Hartley, Grace Page, George Greenhough, John Davies, Sweyn Kirkness, Jack Welsby (I'll stop there but will think of some more later no doubt).
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Sweyn Kikness gets my vote as best contestant name ever
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Sweyn Kirness was in the year above me at university. He (presumably) graduated from Heriot-Watt ten years ago in actuarial maths, but don't know anything since then.....Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 3:37 pm Sweyn Kikness gets my vote as best contestant name ever
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Ever heard of this new-fangled Google thingy?
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Just come across this thread and find it strange to see my name being mentioned! I usually check on here every couple of months to see if there's any topics of interest and do an egosurf to see if my name has been mentioned anywhere (which it usually isn't!)
I watch the show very rarely these days but do keep track time to time on the Apterous wiki and speak to a few people who are more involved in the CO-event scene. I have never ruled out going to one in the near future.
In terms of names, I don't know much about Harvey Freeman and Scott Mearns though I heard Harvey was an accountant living in London and Scott lives in Leeds (I think when he was originally a contestant he was at Leeds University and did a special show and seem to remember he was running a supermarket) though this would have been going 15 years back so who knows what now!
I organised a reunion in Manchester about 18 months ago now for people who were around my time plus some others and had quite a good turnout. Graham Nash I think has done a few game shows since Countdown, top bloke! Chris Wills is now an active Labour campaigner in Manchester.
The big name around my time was Julian Fell. After spending quite a long time trying to find him to contact him about the reunion, I finally managed to do so and I basically got custard pied saying he didn't want anything to do with Countdown. Naturally when the 30th birthday Championship happened, I and probably some others were a bit sad not to see him in it and I least I know that had I or others had contact details for him then, he would probably have declined! It would have been interesting to see how he'd have fared!
I watch the show very rarely these days but do keep track time to time on the Apterous wiki and speak to a few people who are more involved in the CO-event scene. I have never ruled out going to one in the near future.
In terms of names, I don't know much about Harvey Freeman and Scott Mearns though I heard Harvey was an accountant living in London and Scott lives in Leeds (I think when he was originally a contestant he was at Leeds University and did a special show and seem to remember he was running a supermarket) though this would have been going 15 years back so who knows what now!
I organised a reunion in Manchester about 18 months ago now for people who were around my time plus some others and had quite a good turnout. Graham Nash I think has done a few game shows since Countdown, top bloke! Chris Wills is now an active Labour campaigner in Manchester.
The big name around my time was Julian Fell. After spending quite a long time trying to find him to contact him about the reunion, I finally managed to do so and I basically got custard pied saying he didn't want anything to do with Countdown. Naturally when the 30th birthday Championship happened, I and probably some others were a bit sad not to see him in it and I least I know that had I or others had contact details for him then, he would probably have declined! It would have been interesting to see how he'd have fared!
Probably the second tallest ever series finalist.