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Deathwatch 2018
Looks like people are keen to do this again. See Marc already did his list in the 2017 thread, when's the deadline for submissions?
Definitely not Jamie McNeill or Schrodinger's Cat....
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Should post the rules as well ![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
1. 10 names, must have some sort of notability;
2. Once you've posted your list, that's it. No revisions.
3. Each one that dies in 2017 scores (120 - age of death);
4. Bonus of 25 points for any one of them being murdered;
5. Bonus of 25 points if you are the first person to nominate a celeb who dies (or something similar, need to check with Jim)
and as for my own list.
Rosemary West
Leah Bracknall
Nobby Stiles
Clive James
Olivia Newton-John
Prunella Scales
David Prowse
Linda Nolan
June Whitfield
Tessa Jowell
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1. 10 names, must have some sort of notability;
2. Once you've posted your list, that's it. No revisions.
3. Each one that dies in 2017 scores (120 - age of death);
4. Bonus of 25 points for any one of them being murdered;
5. Bonus of 25 points if you are the first person to nominate a celeb who dies (or something similar, need to check with Jim)
and as for my own list.
Rosemary West
Leah Bracknall
Nobby Stiles
Clive James
Olivia Newton-John
Prunella Scales
David Prowse
Linda Nolan
June Whitfield
Tessa Jowell
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I also think points deduction for those already seriously ill.
Leah Bracknell is a shoe in
Leah Bracknell is a shoe in
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How are you going to define that objectively though?Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:36 pm I also think points deduction for those already seriously ill.
Leah Bracknell is a shoe in
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If we're gonna suggest rule changes I think 120 is too high. It ruins the risk reward element of going for young people. You may as well just pick a list of people over 90. I know people are living longer than ever but who realistically lives to 120? To get over 20 points for people in their 90s is too much.
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Dick van Dyke
Regis Philbin
Bill Clinton
James Earl Jones
Barbara Streisand
Mel Brooks
Bret Michaels
Queen Elizabeth II
Gay Byrne
Kanye West
Not many changes from last year although no more Gazza for once so he's probably guaranteed to go now.
Regis Philbin
Bill Clinton
James Earl Jones
Barbara Streisand
Mel Brooks
Bret Michaels
Queen Elizabeth II
Gay Byrne
Kanye West
Not many changes from last year although no more Gazza for once so he's probably guaranteed to go now.
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Re: Deathwatch 2018
1 person has lived to a verified age past 120....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_CalmentMark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:11 pm If we're gonna suggest rule changes I think 120 is too high. It ruins the risk reward element of going for young people. You may as well just pick a list of people over 90. I know people are living longer than ever but who realistically lives to 120? To get over 20 points for people in their 90s is too much.
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I don't get what lowering it from 120 would do...surely it would have no effect?
Lets imagine one person has someone die who is 60 and another has someone who is 100:
120-60=60
120-100=20
Lets imagine the number you subtract from is 100:
100-60=40
100-100=0
it's still the same difference of differences. the person who picked the 60 year old would be getting 40 more points than the other either way.
As a sidenote, The deathlist, which this was presumably named after, is basically where people try and find the oldest people they can with even the slightest bit of notability. Really clutching at straws for some of the so-called celebrities on there.
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I genuinely think she'll still be around if you're doing this in 2028. Ain't a chance she's going soon the amount of care she gets - she can still ride a horse for god's sake.
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The points difference is the same but likelihood of death is different. People are less likely to pick younger people because, even though you would get more points the likelihood of it happening is less. Plus the fact that you can also get a first pick bonus means you're better off focusing on the older people who are more likely.
And that's my point. The game has basically become let's pick really old celebrities. The original celebrity death pool cut off was 100 and I don't get why that needed to be changed. Maybe if we keep it at 120 but reduce the first pick bonus?Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:28 pm
As a sidenote, The deathlist, which this was presumably named after, is basically where people try and find the oldest people they can with even the slightest bit of notability. Really clutching at straws for some of the so-called celebrities on there.
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A lot of my list is based more on hope than expectation.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:32 pmI genuinely think she'll still be around if you're doing this in 2028. Ain't a chance she's going soon the amount of care she gets - she can still ride a horse for god's sake.
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No, everyone loves the queen!!!Mark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:07 pmA lot of my list is based more on hope than expectation.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:32 pmI genuinely think she'll still be around if you're doing this in 2028. Ain't a chance she's going soon the amount of care she gets - she can still ride a horse for god's sake.
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I love how I'm beginning to influence this game's rules despite abstaining from partaking.Mark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:52 pm The points difference is the same but likelihood of death is different. People are less likely to pick younger people because, even though you would get more points the likelihood of it happening is less. Plus the fact that you can also get a first pick bonus means you're better off focusing on the older people who are more likely.
And that's my point. The game has basically become let's pick really old celebrities. The original celebrity death pool cut off was 100 and I don't get why that needed to be changed. Maybe if we keep it at 120 but reduce the first pick bonus?Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:28 pm
As a sidenote, The deathlist, which this was presumably named after, is basically where people try and find the oldest people they can with even the slightest bit of notability. Really clutching at straws for some of the so-called celebrities on there.
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What's wrong with Mel Brooks ?Mark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:07 pmA lot of my list is based more on hope than expectation.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:32 pmI genuinely think she'll still be around if you're doing this in 2028. Ain't a chance she's going soon the amount of care she gets - she can still ride a horse for god's sake.
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Got me thinking.....based on a wish list my wish list isMark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:07 pmA lot of my list is based more on hope than expectation.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:32 pmI genuinely think she'll still be around if you're doing this in 2028. Ain't a chance she's going soon the amount of care she gets - she can still ride a horse for god's sake.
Alex Ferguson
Piers Morgan
Tony B Liar
Ian Duncan Smith
Donald Trump
Jamie Redknap
Robert Mugabe
Gerry Adams
Garry Glitter
Robbie Savage
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Re: Deathwatch 2018
I'll just pick the same as last year.
Michael Schumacher
Cher
Stephen Hawking
Frank Williams (F1)
Bill Maynard
Daniel Dennett
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Mark Serwotka
Brian Blessed
Nigel Farage
Michael Schumacher
Cher
Stephen Hawking
Frank Williams (F1)
Bill Maynard
Daniel Dennett
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi
Mark Serwotka
Brian Blessed
Nigel Farage
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Re: Deathwatch 2018
It makes a difference because you could end up with negative points. Also, it makes a difference when different people score with a different number of people.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:28 pm1 person has lived to a verified age past 120....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_CalmentMark James wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:11 pm If we're gonna suggest rule changes I think 120 is too high. It ruins the risk reward element of going for young people. You may as well just pick a list of people over 90. I know people are living longer than ever but who realistically lives to 120? To get over 20 points for people in their 90s is too much.![]()
I don't get what lowering it from 120 would do...surely it would have no effect?
Lets imagine one person has someone die who is 60 and another has someone who is 100:
120-60=60
120-100=20
Lets imagine the number you subtract from is 100:
100-60=40
100-100=0
it's still the same difference of differences. the person who picked the 60 year old would be getting 40 more points than the other either way.
If it's 120, then two people of 99 get a total of 42 points. One person of 80 gets 40.
If it's 100, then two people of 99 get 2 points. One person of 80 gets 20.
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Here's my list of very old people, just last year's with the dead two replaced. Rest in peace Chuck Berry, rot in hell Hugh Hefner.
Vera Lynn
Prince Philip
Sir David Attenborough![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
Angela Lansbury
Barbara Bush
George H.W. Bush
Jimmy Carter
Betty White
I.M. Pei
Kirk Douglas
I agree the first time bonus is too high and while I think people above 100 should score some points maybe the current system is a bit shit. Maybe some kind of polynomial or exponential growth formula could be used, to greatly reward people who go for young people?
Vera Lynn
Prince Philip
Sir David Attenborough
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Angela Lansbury
Barbara Bush
George H.W. Bush
Jimmy Carter
Betty White
I.M. Pei
Kirk Douglas
I agree the first time bonus is too high and while I think people above 100 should score some points maybe the current system is a bit shit. Maybe some kind of polynomial or exponential growth formula could be used, to greatly reward people who go for young people?
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I propose picking a constant x (we're essentially doing it with 1 here), 1.05 seems like a decent value from playing around a little bit feel free to change, and then a fixed age N (say 90) and then multiplying whatever points you would get by x^(N-[age of death]). This is just a suggestion after a couple minutes of thinking, I'm sure there's better formulas. So using my values, for a 90 year old you would keep the same score, a 95 year old would score 0.783526166 times what you would get, a 70 year old would be 2.653297705 times it and so on.
Alternatively, do away with all the other shit. Just get straight up the amount of points from the formula (you could always multiply by 100 or that long decimal Gevin likes to use or something) and just get that many points for a person. Yeah, I like this one more. So that's like 100 for a 90 year old, 78.4 points for a 95 year old, 265.3 points for a 70 year old and so on, feel free to fuck around with the exact values until you get something you like. Could still have like a 20 point bonus for first person to say someone, 100 point bonus for murder (or like double points) or something. Whatever
Alternatively, do away with all the other shit. Just get straight up the amount of points from the formula (you could always multiply by 100 or that long decimal Gevin likes to use or something) and just get that many points for a person. Yeah, I like this one more. So that's like 100 for a 90 year old, 78.4 points for a 95 year old, 265.3 points for a 70 year old and so on, feel free to fuck around with the exact values until you get something you like. Could still have like a 20 point bonus for first person to say someone, 100 point bonus for murder (or like double points) or something. Whatever
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And I reckon there should be a wise person or people to adjudicate if people are too ill to count (and also if they actually qualify as being 'famous')
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Re: Deathwatch 2018
The best solution is bookies odds.
But I don't think you can bet on such things
But I don't think you can bet on such things
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The linear thing is a bit simplistic, but it depends how complex you want to go for something as unimportant as this.Thomas Carey wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:57 pm I propose picking a constant x (we're essentially doing it with 1 here), 1.05 seems like a decent value from playing around a little bit feel free to change, and then a fixed age N (say 90) and then multiplying whatever points you would get by x^(N-[age of death]). This is just a suggestion after a couple minutes of thinking, I'm sure there's better formulas. So using my values, for a 90 year old you would keep the same score, a 95 year old would score 0.783526166 times what you would get, a 70 year old would be 2.653297705 times it and so on.
Alternatively, do away with all the other shit. Just get straight up the amount of points from the formula (you could always multiply by 100 or that long decimal Gevin likes to use or something) and just get that many points for a person. Yeah, I like this one more. So that's like 100 for a 90 year old, 78.4 points for a 95 year old, 265.3 points for a 70 year old and so on, feel free to fuck around with the exact values until you get something you like. Could still have like a 20 point bonus for first person to say someone, 100 point bonus for murder (or like double points) or something. Whatever
There's always this or something like it. We could use the numbers off that.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:43 am The best solution is bookies odds.
But I don't think you can bet on such things
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Re: Deathwatch 2018
Is it necessary to mention the deaths who weren't on anyone's list here? Whenever I see this thread has turned red and is at the top of the page I think someone must have scored some points and when it's just Gev listing off the latest dead "celebrity" it's a bit of a disappointment.
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I like to be able to look back and see who died in a given year so having this thread enables me to do that. Though I could just edit an existing post to add new people rather than make a new post if it's that annoying.Mark James wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:25 pm Is it necessary to mention the deaths who weren't on anyone's list here? Whenever I see this thread has turned red and is at the top of the page I think someone must have scored some points and when it's just Gev listing off the latest dead "celebrity" it's a bit of a disappointment.
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Nah it's fine, I was being slightly facetious.
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What the fuck are youGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:49 am I like to be able to look back and see who died in a given year
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Sean D. had him last year. "One year out!" as Ken Bruce would say.
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Sure, I can continue the 2017 version without a cutoff. Until everyone's choices have died, or until I've died, whichever comes first. I'll have to check to see if I've missed any deaths from these first couple of months, though (don't think I have but you never know). I'll post an updated leaderboard soon (back in the Deathwatch 2017 thread, I won't clutter up this one).
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Bit late with that one! He died in 2015, unless he was resurrected and has died again, of course.
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Classic case of a zombie article trending for some reason.JimBentley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:32 pmBit late with that one! He died in 2015, unless he was resurrected and has died again, of course.
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It was on the BBC most read down the side. They did previously take measures against this zombie article thing by having a note by the link to really old articles saying its date. Obviously they forgot to carry on doing that.Ian Volante wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:08 pmClassic case of a zombie article trending for some reason.JimBentley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:32 pmBit late with that one! He died in 2015, unless he was resurrected and has died again, of course.
Anyway I accept full responsibility.
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Trevor Bayliss. And no, this is not a wind-up.
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Ken Dodd RIP.
Lived to be ninety,
Died in the house he was born in.
Didn't really like his jokes although he was good in Beetlejuice
Lived to be ninety,
Died in the house he was born in.
Didn't really like his jokes although he was good in Beetlejuice
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Stephen Hawking ![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
Genuinely surprised nobody seemed to really mention him ever
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Genuinely surprised nobody seemed to really mention him ever
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Well he was in my list.Thomas Carey wrote: ↑Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:08 am Stephen Hawking
Genuinely surprised nobody seemed to really mention him ever
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He lasted over fifty years with MND.
I do hope he gets a state funeral
I do hope he gets a state funeral
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Jim Bowen.
Not smashing super or great news
Not smashing super or great news
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Katie Boyle of Eurovision fame has passed away aged 91.
Came as a shock as I thought she died years ago
Came as a shock as I thought she died years ago
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He is in the 2017 oneGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:36 pm Bill Maynard should be in this thread too.
Also, Winnie Mandela.
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I know but he should be here really as he died this year!Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:46 pmHe is in the 2017 oneGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:36 pm Bill Maynard should be in this thread too.
Also, Winnie Mandela.
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I meant Eric Bristow, although Isao Takahata will be missed too
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Aaron Ramsey strikes again.
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I thought it was a heart attack.
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I believe that's 16 now.
I think there's a Ramsaycurse# on the twattersphere
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Aaron Ramsay has just scored, watch this space ......
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How come you missed R. Lee Emery and Harry Anderson?
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To be fair Dale Winston is a household name but Avicii is not a household name in his own household.
R. Lee Emery was great in Full Metal Jacket
Never watched Harry Anderson in anything
R. Lee Emery was great in Full Metal Jacket
Never watched Harry Anderson in anything
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