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Post by Charlie Reams » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:23 pm

The owners of the server on which C4C and the wiki operate have seen fit to upgrade to a newer version of PHP. This partially broke C4C and has completely broken the wiki, which will probably take some time to repair.

PS is it just me or does "keep me logged in" no longer work on here?

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Post by Ben Wilson » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:26 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:PS is it just me or does "keep me logged in" no longer work on here?
Not just you. Been screwed for me ever since the 'upgrade'.

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Post by Rhys Benjamin » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:15 am

Didn't I point this out yesterday? And why don't you turn this into a Global announcement? IT's that important!

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:16 am

Ben Wilson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:PS is it just me or does "keep me logged in" no longer work on here?
Not just you. Been screwed for me ever since the 'upgrade'.
Never worked for me. Ever.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Howard Somerset » Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:07 am

Ben Wilson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:PS is it just me or does "keep me logged in" no longer work on here?
Not just you. Been screwed for me ever since the 'upgrade'.
Likewise.

Sorry to hear about the problems, Charlie, and hope you manage to sort them remotely.

On the other hand, I'm glad to hear that it's not just me. The problems coincided with my first attempt to access from my phone, and I feared that I'd wrecked my settings. So thanks, Rhys, for letting me know that I was not the only one experiencing problems, and Charlie and Ben for confirming that it's widespread, including having to log in every time.

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Post by Lesley Hines » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:20 am

Good luck Charlie!
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Post by James Robinson » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:23 am

Lesley Hines wrote:Good luck Charlie!
Ditto. Being wikiless will slightly slow down the historical recap process, but I suppose it can't be helped.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Gavin Chipper » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:34 pm

Ben Wilson wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:PS is it just me or does "keep me logged in" no longer work on here?
Not just you. Been screwed for me ever since the 'upgrade'.
Me too.

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:35 pm

My password stopped working when I just tried to log in so just had to reset it. Probably due to the upgrade but I don't know if I was the only one affected.
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Post by Ian Volante » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:10 am

Interesting to come into work and find that the forum looks fine in IE7 - the text is now tiny in Firefox. None of my subscriptions seem to be working either, as well as the logging-in issue.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Howard Somerset » Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:46 am

Seems that different people are experiencing different problems.
Ian Volante wrote:Interesting to come into work and find that the forum looks fine in IE7 - the text is now tiny in Firefox. None of my subscriptions seem to be working either, as well as the logging-in issue.
I've tried it at home with three browsers, Firefox, Opera and IE7, and there's no apparent difference at all.
Kai Laddiman wrote:My password stopped working when I just tried to log in so just had to reset it. Probably due to the upgrade but I don't know if I was the only one affected.
I've had no password problems, other than having to log in every time I come back.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Howard Somerset » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:56 pm

Howard Somerset wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:My password stopped working when I just tried to log in so just had to reset it. Probably due to the upgrade but I don't know if I was the only one affected.
I've had no password problems, other than having to log in every time I come back.
I've had this problem now though.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Matt Morrison » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:59 pm

Note: if you remove the session ID part of the URL (&sid=xxx) when posting a link to another part of the forum, you won't be logged in when you click on the link.
Which, we'll see, might make posting links around the forum really annoying from now on, as obviously session IDs are individual anyway so it's not like leaving them in will help neither.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:08 pm

When will the wiki be back, Charlie?

If it does come back, then will there have to be a Dumping as I gather there was last time?

If it is, I'll help out.
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Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:41 pm

Rhys Benjamin wrote:When will the wiki be back, Charlie?
Whenever I get around to it.
If it does come back, then will there have to be a Dumping as I gather there was last time?
No, that was for creating the wiki. All the information is safely stored in the database, it's just the website that's broken.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:44 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:When will the wiki be back, Charlie?
Whenever I get around to it.
Now please!
Charlie Reams wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:If it does come back, then will there have to be a Dumping as I gather there was last time?
No, that was for creating the wiki. All the information is safely stored in the database, it's just the website that's broken.
Oh good.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:41 pm

Rhys Benjamin wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:When will the wiki be back, Charlie?
Whenever I get around to it.
Now please!
Whenever I get around to it.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:46 pm

date?

Oh. and don't say it......
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:48 pm

Rhys Benjamin wrote:date?
I don't think Charlie swings that way, sorry.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Lesley Hines » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:17 pm

Rhys Benjamin wrote:date?

Oh. and don't say it......
Unless you want Charlie to start charging £15 a year each for membership to this forum and the wiki too, for all the hard work and maintenance he puts in to it, I really wouldn't start exercising too many complainers' rights.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Chris Corby » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:38 am

Ian Volante wrote:Interesting to come into work and find that the forum looks fine in IE7 - the text is now tiny in Firefox.
Did you inadvertently click on the text size button marked 'A' above your name on the front page? Altering the text size is saved....

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Post by Ian Volante » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:54 am

Chris Corby wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:Interesting to come into work and find that the forum looks fine in IE7 - the text is now tiny in Firefox.
Did you inadvertently click on the text size button marked 'A' above your name on the front page? Altering the text size is saved....
Maybe. Is that only visible in FF, cos I can't see it in IE?


In other news, it appears that navigating to the home page deals an instant log-out for me (although going back returns me to a logged-in state).
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Matt Morrison » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:02 pm

Ian Volante wrote:it appears that navigating to the home page deals an instant log-out for me (although going back returns me to a logged-in state).
I presume you mean manually going to index.php, rather than simply clicking the top-left logo to go back to the homepage?
If so, this is just a repetition of the "removing the session ID" thing I talked about above - clicking the logo will keep your session intact.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ian Volante » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:07 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:it appears that navigating to the home page deals an instant log-out for me (although going back returns me to a logged-in state).
I presume you mean manually going to index.php, rather than simply clicking the top-left logo to go back to the homepage?
If so, this is just a repetition of the "removing the session ID" thing I talked about above - clicking the logo will keep your session intact.
I can't see the logo (there's a logo? :? ), so I was just clicking on the link (c4countdown).
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Matt Morrison » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:39 pm

Ian Volante wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:it appears that navigating to the home page deals an instant log-out for me (although going back returns me to a logged-in state).
I presume you mean manually going to index.php, rather than simply clicking the top-left logo to go back to the homepage?
If so, this is just a repetition of the "removing the session ID" thing I talked about above - clicking the logo will keep your session intact.
I can't see the logo (there's a logo? :? ), so I was just clicking on the link (c4countdown).
Ah right. Yeah you're probably using that shitty aerogreen skin instead of prosilver :)
Either way, the logo/c4countdown text link AND the 'Board index' text link just below (the same on each skin) will keep your session ID intact, so no idea how you managed to lose it. I blame aerogreen.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:48 am

Aaaaand we're back. Not sure what's happened to the logo.

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Post by Howard Somerset » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:09 am

Charlie Reams wrote:Aaaaand we're back. Not sure what's happened to the logo.
Well done, Charlie!

I can read it. But unfortunately, when I tried to make an update, I got that same error message as was reported before, and the update hadn't been accepted.


I've just tried an update again, to see if it was a one-off, and again it failed. The error message given was:
Internal error
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Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

Retrieved from "http://wiki.apterous.org/Series_63"
The bits in red weren't actually shown, but when I copied and pasted the error message, they appeared.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by James Robinson » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:13 am

Howard Somerset wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:Aaaaand we're back. Not sure what's happened to the logo.
Well done, Charlie!

I can read it. But unfortunately, when I tried to make an update, I got that same error message as was reported before, and the update hadn't been accepted.


I've just tried an update again, to see if it was a one-off, and again it failed. The error message given was:
Internal error
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Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information.

Retrieved from "http://wiki.apterous.org/Series_63"
The bits in red weren't actually shown, but when I copied and pasted the error message, they appeared.
I tried an update as well, but thought I probably wasn't going to get anywhere after noticing that the edit page just said what the page was.

In other words, normally when editing something it says on the top "Editing Series 63" (for example), but it just said "Series 63".

Well, at least it's something. Keep up the good work, Charlie. ;)
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ian Volante » Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:50 am

Good work so far. This place seems to still lose sessions, but subscription e-mails have returned at least, although I'm not sure whether they were reset or not. I suppose I'll find out next time someone posts in the Birthdays thread. Or not.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Howard Somerset » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:37 am

There is a further message displayed when a Wiki update is attempted. The message is not copyable, so I've typed it out here.
Warning: Parameter 1 to ReCaptcha::confirmEdit() expected to be a reference value given in /home/calr3/public_html/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 133
The bottoms of many of the characters are hidden behind some of the tabs, so I may have interpreted some of them incorrectly.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by James Robinson » Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:33 am

Howard Somerset wrote:There is a further message displayed when a Wiki update is attempted. The message is not copyable, so I've typed it out here.
Warning: Parameter 1 to ReCaptcha::confirmEdit() expected to be a reference value given in /home/calr3/public_html/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 133
The bottoms of many of the characters are hidden behind some of the tabs, so I may have interpreted some of them incorrectly.
I managed to copy it, although it was very tricky.
Warning: Parameter 1 to ReCaptcha::confirmEdit() expected to be a reference, value given in /home/calr3/public_html/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 133
And I think it does match, more or less what you've wrote down, Howard. :) Just not as bold. :lol:
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Post by Matt Morrison » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:25 am

Ian Volante wrote:Good work so far. This place seems to still lose sessions, but subscription e-mails have returned at least, although I'm not sure whether they were reset or not. I suppose I'll find out next time someone posts in the Birthdays thread. Or not.
I think the most shocking news that has come out of this whole debacle is that you're subscribed to the Birthdays thread - lolwut?

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ian Volante » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:19 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:Good work so far. This place seems to still lose sessions, but subscription e-mails have returned at least, although I'm not sure whether they were reset or not. I suppose I'll find out next time someone posts in the Birthdays thread. Or not.
I think the most shocking news that has come out of this whole debacle is that you're subscribed to the Birthdays thread - lolwut?
I've never unsubscribed from a thread I've posted in, no matter how dull...
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Matt Morrison » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:31 pm

Ian Volante wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:Good work so far. This place seems to still lose sessions, but subscription e-mails have returned at least, although I'm not sure whether they were reset or not. I suppose I'll find out next time someone posts in the Birthdays thread. Or not.
I think the most shocking news that has come out of this whole debacle is that you're subscribed to the Birthdays thread - lolwut?
I've never unsubscribed from a thread I've posted in, no matter how dull...
I'm probably confused. You get an e-mail everytime someone posts in every thread you've ever posted in before?

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Post by Ian Volante » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:38 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:I think the most shocking news that has come out of this whole debacle is that you're subscribed to the Birthdays thread - lolwut?
I've never unsubscribed from a thread I've posted in, no matter how dull...
I'm probably confused. You get an e-mail everytime someone posts in every thread you've ever posted in before?
Yep! Easiest way of keeping track of threads I find. A large percentage of threads die out after a few days, so it's not like I'm deluged or anything.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:48 pm

What James and Howard said, basically, is we can't edit anything.
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James Robinson wrote:
Howard Somerset wrote:There is a further message displayed when a Wiki update is attempted. The message is not copyable, so I've typed it out here.
Warning: Parameter 1 to ReCaptcha::confirmEdit() expected to be a reference value given in /home/calr3/public_html/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 133
The bottoms of many of the characters are hidden behind some of the tabs, so I may have interpreted some of them incorrectly.
I managed to copy it, although it was very tricky.
Warning: Parameter 1 to ReCaptcha::confirmEdit() expected to be a reference, value given in /home/calr3/public_html/wiki/includes/Hooks.php on line 133
And I think it does match, more or less what you've wrote down, Howard. :) Just not as bold. :lol:
Thanks QA team. It looks like one of the extensions isn't compatible with the new MediaWiki, so I'll have to do some more fiddling.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:48 pm

Fiddling complete, I managed to edit an article successfully. Let me know if anything else bad happens.

Next stop is to get the cookies fixed on the forum so that staying logged in works.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:15 pm

Ian Volante wrote:I've never unsubscribed from a thread I've posted in, no matter how dull...
You're making it sound like subscribing is just something that happens automatically and you'd have to actively unsubscribe. That's never been the case for me!

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Re: Server upgrade

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Gavin Chipper wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:I've never unsubscribed from a thread I've posted in, no matter how dull...
You're making it sound like subscribing is just something that happens automatically and you'd have to actively unsubscribe. That's never been the case for me!
I assume it's in the settings somewhere, I can't remember.
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:24 pm

View new posts?
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Re: Server upgrade

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Rhys Benjamin wrote:View new posts?
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Re: Server upgrade

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Rhys Benjamin wrote:View new posts?
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Re: Server upgrade

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Well done, Charlie. Wiki looking good now. :)

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:22 pm

Looks like I'll have to upgrade the forum to the new version of phpBB to fix the login problem. This will probably break the extensions so... (make sure you're sitting down before reading this) Likes might be broken for a while. Try not to panic!

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:24 am

Hooray! C4C has been upgraded to the latest version of phpBB. This is the first update since we moved here nearly three years ago, so it was long overdue anyway, and appears to have fixed the login problem. Unfortunately it has also, as expected, broken my customizations, so there's no more Likes for the time being and this may take a little time to fix. Do not pester me about this.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by John Bosley » Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:03 am

What a lovely surprise this morning. Logged before I could say Jack Robinson. Thanks Charlie.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Jon Corby » Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:26 am

When will Likes be fixed?

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:54 am

Jon Corby wrote:When will Likes be fixed?
Yeah, are Likes broken? I can't see a button. Do I need to use a different skin?

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ryan Taylor » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:33 am

Michael Wallace wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:When will Likes be fixed?
Yeah, are Likes broken? I can't see a button. Do I need to use a different skin?
I tried to Like both of these messages but I seem to be having the same problem you guys have. Something freaky is going on and I bet Gandiseeg's involved. :?

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Re: Server upgrade

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Ryan Taylor wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:When will Likes be fixed?
Yeah, are Likes broken? I can't see a button. Do I need to use a different skin?
I tried to Like both of these messages but I seem to be having the same problem you guys have. Something freaky is going on and I bet Gandiseeg's involved. :?
I've tried clicking on the word 'Like' in the message and nothing is happening.

Do I need to upgrade Java?

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:52 am

Oh, might it be that I'm not on my regular Internet connection? (We had a power cut so we're in a friend's place.)

I'll head home now and try it again, see if it works if I'm using my own Internets.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ian Volante » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:00 pm

Do I not like that?
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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Charlie Reams » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:39 pm

Likes are working fine for me.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:43 pm

Back home on our own Internet (and electricity, before you ask) but still no Likes. V unimpressed :x :x :x

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ben Hunter » Thu Oct 07, 2010 12:50 pm

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Charlie Reams wrote:Likes are working fine for me.
Don't worry, I believe you.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:10 pm

Oh, I have an idea, if you want to Like a post, just quote it and write ***LIKE*** underneath, then once Charlie gets Likes fixed he can count them all up and sort out the totals :ugeek:

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Michael Wallace » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:10 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:Oh, I have an idea, if you want to Like a post, just quote it and write ***LIKE*** underneath, then once Charlie gets Likes fixed he can count them all up and sort out the totals :ugeek:
***LIKE***

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Ben Hunter » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:19 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:Oh, I have an idea, if you want to Like a post, just quote it and write ***LIKE*** underneath, then once Charlie gets Likes fixed he can count them all up and sort out the totals :ugeek:
Likes are working fine in Pro-Silver for me man.

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Re: Server upgrade

Post by Liam Tiernan » Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:48 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:
Michael Wallace wrote:Oh, I have an idea, if you want to Like a post, just quote it and write ***LIKE*** underneath, then once Charlie gets Likes fixed he can count them all up and sort out the totals :ugeek:
Likes are working fine in Pro-Silver for me man.
Not working for me on Prosilver.

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