Vuvuzela

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:28 pm

I'm just watching the BBC's live coverage of England's final warm-up match against Platinum Stars, and, particularly evident without any audio commentary, I've been instantly reminded of how fucking annoying I found the constant vuvuzela-blowing in last year's Confederations Cup.

Your opinions please.

Vuvuzelas: invalid in both Countdown and my head.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 pm

Matt Morrison wrote: Vuvuzelas: invalid in Countdown

Not for long perhaps

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:35 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote: Vuvuzelas: invalid in Countdown
Not for long perhaps

Decent pencil.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:37 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Charlie Reams wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote: Vuvuzelas: invalid in Countdown
Not for long perhaps
Decent pencil.

Thanks, but it's not that long either unfortunately.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:03 pm

Horrible noise, and that is in a half empty stadium.

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:09 pm

Yeah, it was a bit head wrecking in the confederations cup. Must be awful when you're in the stadium. That's why they have a rape epidemic over there, cos they've all got the horn...

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:21 pm

Andy Wilson wrote:Yeah, it was a bit head wrecking in the confederations cup. Must be awful when you're in the stadium. That's why they have a rape epidemic over there, cos they've all got the horn...

Insert picture of tumbleweed here.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:29 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:
Andy Wilson wrote:Yeah, it was a bit head wrecking in the confederations cup. Must be awful when you're in the stadium. That's why they have a rape epidemic over there, cos they've all got the horn...
Insert picture of tumbleweed here.

I don't think that's a tradition you want to start.

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:24 pm

Can we please have an option for creating silent ones, cos they sound awful but that's a truly fantastic word.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:08 pm

It'll be something that identifies the tournament in posterity, like the wave in '86, or Falcao's veins in '82.

Matthew Green · Post by **Matthew Green** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:19 pm

I think they could actually ruin the whole tournament. Its an appalling noise. I had to stop watching those conf.cup games last summer and couldnt watch that England match before. Really bad move letting this shitbox country try and run a world cup, I guarantee at least 10 dead supporters.

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:35 pm

Matthew Green wrote:I think they could actually ruin the whole tournament. Its an appalling noise. I had to stop watching those conf.cup games last summer and couldnt watch that England match before. Really bad move letting this shitbox country try and run a world cup, I guarantee at least 10 dead supporters.

More if England get through the group stages.

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:09 am

Ian Volante wrote:
Matthew Green wrote:I think they could actually ruin the whole tournament. Its an appalling noise. I had to stop watching those conf.cup games last summer and couldnt watch that England match before. Really bad move letting this shitbox country try and run a world cup, I guarantee at least 10 dead supporters.
More if England get through the group stages.

Jealousy will get you nowhere!

Ian Volante · Post by **Ian Volante** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:44 am

Lesley Hines wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:
Matthew Green wrote:I think they could actually ruin the whole tournament. Its an appalling noise. I had to stop watching those conf.cup games last summer and couldnt watch that England match before. Really bad move letting this shitbox country try and run a world cup, I guarantee at least 10 dead supporters.
More if England get through the group stages.
Jealousy will get you nowhere!

Don't you know we're all English in this city?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:53 pm

I hate football and I had to endure 90 minutes of England the other day. What fucking annoyed me more was the constant horn blowing. Someone had to tell me what they were but there's no need for it.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:57 pm

I like. Or, at the very least, it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:58 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I hate football

Clearly, you haven't even changed your avatar to the Brazil flag for the Apterous World Cup

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:06 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:I hate football
Clearly, you haven't even changed your avatar to the Brazil flag for the Apterous World Cup

On the basis of that I am surprised he even entered.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:10 pm

James Robinson wrote: Clearly, you haven't even changed your avatar to the Brazil flag for the Apterous World Cup

Ha, I'm not even sure I'd know how to do it. I don't hate country's flags, James, I hate football. I don't want to watch people running around passing a ball and then having a shot on target and missing by miles. How much do they get paid? You don't get the best darter in the world going for double 8 and missing by 2 foot do you. Ridiculous.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:13 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:You don't get the best darter in the world going for double 8 and missing by 2 foot do you. Ridiculous.

Utter A-lol. Love you.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:16 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
James Robinson wrote: Clearly, you haven't even changed your avatar to the Brazil flag for the Apterous World Cup
Ha, I'm not even sure I'd know how to do it. I don't hate country's flags, James, I hate football. I don't want to watch people running around passing a ball and then having a shot on target and missing by miles. How much do they get paid? You don't get the best darter in the world going for double 8 and missing by 2 foot do you. Ridiculous.

If it hits the wire and bounces out it could be over 6 foot from the target.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:18 pm

Bad news for Vuvuzela haters http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 737455.stm

James Doohan · Post by **James Doohan** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:26 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:Bad news for Vuvuzela haters http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 737455.stm

FIFA branded vuvuzelas are on sale in South Africa so this talk of a ban was total bullshit

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:52 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
James Robinson wrote: Clearly, you haven't even changed your avatar to the Brazil flag for the Apterous World Cup
Ha, I'm not even sure I'd know how to do it.

How did you get your face as your avatar in the first place then

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:55 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:
Kirk Bevins wrote:You don't get the best darter in the world going for double 8 and missing by 2 foot do you. Ridiculous.
Utter A-lol. Love you.

Or, like, I bet Beevers doesn't go to lay a word in Scrabble, and places the tiles on his shoes instead.

David O'Donnell · Post by **David O'Donnell** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:10 pm

I think they sound like some beautiful demented honey bee.

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:21 pm

They are annoying but not as much as James Corden. At least you can switch him off.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:53 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote: You don't get the best darter in the world going for double 8 and missing by 2 foot do you. Ridiculous.

I'd like to see Phil Taylor try that shot with van Barneveld bearing down on him at full speed. See how close he gets then.

Howard Somerset · Post by **Howard Somerset** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:20 pm

Ian Volante wrote:It'll be something that identifies the tournament in posterity, like the wave in '86

I hope it's not like the wave in '86, cos the wave spread to other places.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:08 pm

The horn - it sounds like a horn - it sounds like a horn - it sounds like a horn - it sounds like a hornet. Sorry, I couldn't quite get my words out.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:10 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote: I'd like to see Phil Taylor try that shot with van Barneveld bearing down on him at full speed. See how close he gets then.

The idea is that Phil is pressured as Barneveld is sat on 32 for the match. There are nerves and he is under great pressure to be accurate. The precision in darts is immense, however they can still manage it. How can people who get paid millions not shoot towards the target properly when they've practised so much. I'm sure they've practised being under attack/pressured - they should know how to cope with it. It's ridiculous.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:12 pm

James Robinson wrote: How did you get your face as your avatar in the first place then

I sent it to Charlie or Charlie just put it on there - I can't remember which.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:45 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: I'd like to see Phil Taylor try that shot with van Barneveld bearing down on him at full speed. See how close he gets then.
The idea is that Phil is pressured as Barneveld is sat on 32 for the match. There are nerves and he is under great pressure to be accurate. The precision in darts is immense, however they can still manage it. How can people who get paid millions not shoot towards the target properly when they've practised so much. I'm sure they've practised being under attack/pressured - they should know how to cope with it. It's ridiculous.

Yes, and players do sometimes miss under those circumstances, even with three darts at a double. Pretty much the darts equivalent of missing an open goal, wouldn't you say?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:04 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote: Yes, and players do sometimes miss under those circumstances, even with three darts at a double. Pretty much the darts equivalent of missing an open goal, wouldn't you say?

Not really. If you're a pro you should score a goal into an open goal 99 times out of 100. You wouldn't expect to hit a double 99 times out of 100 - in fact a good percentage on doubles is around 30%.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:27 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: Yes, and players do sometimes miss under those circumstances, even with three darts at a double. Pretty much the darts equivalent of missing an open goal, wouldn't you say?
Not really. If you're a pro you should score a goal into an open goal 99 times out of 100. You wouldn't expect to hit a double 99 times out of 100 - in fact a good percentage on doubles is around 30%.

So for a pro, having 4 darts at a double should be converted 99 times out of a hundred? I haven't watched darts much, but my impression would be that percentage is a little high. (I'm assuming the 30% figure is per dart, not per 3 darts) I've seen pro matches where a player has SIX darts to close out a game and fails to do so. Ridiculous!

Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:35 pm

Liam Tiernan wrote: So for a pro, having 4 darts at a double should be converted 99 times out of a hundred?

76 times out of a hundred.

And Kirk, it's more like Taylor trying to hit the target while running in from an angle, with Barney simultaneously giving him a nipple cripple.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:02 pm

People always go on about how the England football team have underperformed over the years, but the reason is obvious - all the best people go into darts. Other countries don't have such a darts scene so have better footballers.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:15 pm

Paul Howe wrote:
Liam Tiernan wrote: So for a pro, having 4 darts at a double should be converted 99 times out of a hundred?
76 times out of a hundred.

And Kirk, it's more like Taylor trying to hit the target while running in from an angle, with Barney simultaneously giving him a nipple cripple.

And the dart is also moving when he tries to aim it. And somebody's trying to block the dartboard.

Ryan Taylor · Post by **Ryan Taylor** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:02 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:People always go on about how the England football team have underperformed over the years, but the reason is obvious - all the best people go into darts. Other countries don't have such a darts scene so have better footballers.

This is why the Netherlands have never won the World Cup.

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:09 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:People always go on about how the England football team have underperformed over the years, but the reason is obvious - all the best people go into darts. Other countries don't have such a darts scene so have better footballers.

That's right - this man should be a footballer.

Or maybe it's just horses for courses?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:35 am

What the fuck? You will have practised shooting at a target when there are men running towards you. In darts you haven't practised being nipple crippled by Barney.

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:08 am

Darts is easier than football.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:24 am

Football is a sport.
Darts is a game.
End of.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:52 am

Marc Meakin wrote:Football is a sport.
Darts is a game.
End of.

Whatever Meakin.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:05 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Marc Meakin wrote:Football is a sport.
Darts is a game.
End of.
Whatever Meakin.

It takes WUM to know WUM.

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:19 pm

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=5798

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:05 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:What the fuck? You will have practised shooting at a target when there are men running towards you. In darts you haven't practised being nipple crippled by Barney.

Pity. Might have made it interesting.

Gavin Chipper · Post by **Gavin Chipper** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:24 pm

More people go into football so the top players are probably "better" in some sort of statistical sense. That's an easier way of looking at it than trying to work out whether it's easier to hit a double in darts or nutmeg Damon Hill in football.

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:41 pm

Back on topic... I noticed there a big surge in the noise as Forlan stood over the ball to take a free just outside the box against the home nation. So it's officially disrespectful.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:53 pm

Andy Wilson wrote:Back on topic... I noticed there a big surge in the noise as Forlan stood over the ball to take a free just outside the box against the home nation. So it's officially disrespectful.

So like going "wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooah!" when someone takes a free kick?

Lesley Hines · Post by **Lesley Hines** » Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:55 pm

What's the difference between a vuvuzela and a woman?
One's an annoying noise in your ear for 90 minutes whilst the football's on, the other is a plastic trumpet!
Boom boom.

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:39 am

Hah, good one!

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:36 am

Byron Wallen trying to make the vuvuzela sound nice (52 second clip from Newsnight via BBC)

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:44 pm

For anyone who hates the Vuvuzela. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk

Andy Wilson · Post by **Andy Wilson** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:56 pm

and if you don't... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HmDVz1ED84

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:02 pm

Andy Wilson wrote:and if you don't... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HmDVz1ED84

Nice 1.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:41 pm

Relevant.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:40 pm

Own a vuvuzela! Win one of 5000 from the Sun

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:52 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Own a vuvuzela! Win one of 5000 from the Sun

You wouldn't see Barney blowing a vuvuzela, would you?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:50 pm

Click this: http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.c4countdown.co.uk

Vuvuzelas at the World Cup: