Which bit do you most take issue with?
I struggle to think of any fiction that has made me cry, but for some reason Long Lost Family always manages it.
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Which bit do you most take issue with?
No, that's just enjoying something because it's very accomplished, in this case from a technical point of view. It's not really relevant here. And Jono saying that he applauded for ten minutes was fairly obviously not something that literally happened. Perhaps hyperbole is another thing that you don't understand?Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pmTo expand on this further, I'm not sure it's really about empathy anyway. There are a lot of things where people are like "OMG, this is like so amazeballs", and I'm like "Yeah, it's OK" and quite often these are things that have nothing to do with human emotions. For example, Jono's ridiculous reaction to the Honda Cog advert.
Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pmBut also, you might say "lacking empathy", whereas I might say "less emotionally manipulable". And this goes for e.g. adverts that have an emotive theme but that are really tenuously linked to the product in question - Mr Phil Reynolds I'm looking at you (same link as the Jono one but the video link is broken so have another).
That's just a cheap shot, really, and I think you're better than that.
It's not even an ad for Google (which I like, inasmuch as I use it every day). It's an ad for Chrome, which I hate because it keeps trying to install itself on every computer I use.JimBentley wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:04 pmWed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pmBut also, you might say "lacking empathy", whereas I might say "less emotionally manipulable". And this goes for e.g. adverts that have an emotive theme but that are really tenuously linked to the product in question - Mr Phil Reynolds I'm looking at you (same link as the Jono one but the video link is broken so have another).
I was just trying to ascertain if anything unrelated to physical pain makes you weepGavin Chipper wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:16 pmDunno. But it can happen. It also depends on how you define crying - does it have to be full on streaming tears or does a bit of welling up in the eyes that doesn't make it down your face count?
It's another of those genre-busting things that either appeals or it doesn't depending on what you're looking for. The last episode is brutally sad - and yes, I cried (again).
This is precisely why it is relevant. My point was that it's not that I lack empathy, but that I'm generally less impressed by stuff I watch on TV. That can be emotional stuff or technical stuff. Yes, Jono was probably exaggerating, but the main point is that he was fucking impressed by it.JimBentley wrote: ↑Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:04 pmWed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pmTo expand on this further, I'm not sure it's really about empathy anyway. There are a lot of things where people are like "OMG, this is like so amazeballs", and I'm like "Yeah, it's OK" and quite often these are things that have nothing to do with human emotions. For example, Jono's ridiculous reaction to the Honda Cog advert.
Well, it's more that I would instantly see that advert as a cynical ploy by a psychopathic advertising executive. So the more uplifting the message, the worse it makes the advert for me. (Not that I would be against all uplifting adverts, but that one strikes me as particularly cynical.)Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pmBut also, you might say "lacking empathy", whereas I might say "less emotionally manipulable". And this goes for e.g. adverts that have an emotive theme but that are really tenuously linked to the product in question - Mr Phil Reynolds I'm looking at you (same link as the Jono one but the video link is broken so have another).
I can only apologise.
Noel Edmonds bushtucker trial has to be Eel or no EelJennifer Steadman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:21 amKilling Eve - Completely in love with this, even though it tails off a bit in the second half of the series. Villanelle is pretty much the most engaging female character I've ever seen in a show. I love her and want to be her (minus the killing, I guess) and ABSOLUTELY want her wardrobe. Probably going to rewatch it in the near future.
Fleabag - Not finding it as funny as I thought I would? The Obama scene was very entertaining though.
Bojack Horseman season 5 - Outstanding first half, less engaging in the second half. Getting to a point where I hope they just kill Todd off; his moronic storylines are a constant, jarring distraction that increasingly feel forced and unwieldy. The Vietnam episode was my personal favourite. Luckily Gevin won't judge me because I totally didn't cry at the last 5 minutes
Crazy Ex Girlfriend season 4 - It's OK, but think it's probably for the best that this is its last season.
I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here - Haven't watched this since like 2007 but with a cast of Harry Redknapp, John Barrowman, Anne Hegerty, Nick Knowles and NOEL EDMONDS, I was powerless to resist its siren call. And it's been fucking great so far - a love-in, but a fun love-in. Harry Redknapp and John Barrowman striking up a truly pure bromance is the most wholesome and beautiful thing. Very, very excited for Edmonds entering the jungle tonight.
In more trash reality viewing I've also been watching Masterchef Professionals (hardly, Marcus Wareing only has 1 Michelin star now ffs), Hell's Kitchen (way better when they're shit and he chucks them all out of the kitchen), and The Apprentice (the doughnut episode is one of the funniest things I've seen this year).
I've not watched this because I was put off by the Guardian's constant articles about how it was The Greatest Comedy Show Ever Made And So Transgressive And Amazing And Empowering. Whereas if the gender roles were reversed, they'd have been slagging it off. Also it didn't really sound very funny. I don't know, maybe I'll give it a whirl sometime.
I totally love MCTP (as all the cool kids call it). Both Marcus and Monica are totally firm but fair and I like that they can be really encouraging when things go wrong. They both come across as really nice people who genuinely want the contestants to do well. I especially love Monica as I have a bit of a thing for women who wear glasses.
I too am going to watch this tonight for the first time in many years, just for the Edmonds action. It has the potential to be the funniest (or most car-crashy) thing ever shown on primetime ITV. I've been a bit obsessed with Noel ever since House Party was cancelled, because that was the point that he went from "annoying twat" to "completely mental". I really hope that he starts banging on about Lloyds Bank at some point.
I don't really understand this. The gender of the title character is pretty irrelevant. It's the fact that she's a messed-up human being which is initially mildly funny, until you find out why she's messed up, at which point it turns very bleak indeed. I just Googled the Guardian's articles on it and the first one I came up with compared it to Miranda, which it's about as far away from as I could imagine.JimBentley wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:48 pmI've not watched this because I was put off by the Guardian's constant articles about how it was The Greatest Comedy Show Ever Made And So Transgressive And Amazing And Empowering. Whereas if the gender roles were reversed, they'd have been slagging it off.
Well, as I said, I've not seen it so I probably shouldn't be commenting about it, to be honest. But it certainly seemed that way at the time, mentions of Fleabag were shoehorned into pretty much every article about television (and a lot of other articles) and I just got bored with it. And do you seriously think that there would have been similar hyperbolic praise had a sitcom scene featured - for instance - a male lead character wanking off watching Michelle Obama?Phil Reynolds wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:32 pmThu Nov 22, 2018 3:48 pm
Yeah, I spotted a clip from this in a festive trailer montage thing on BBC1 the other night. Hopefully a precursor to a full second series.
I wasn't being pedantic; I just meant that while I'm looking forward to it, I don't think it's quite as great as you do.Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:47 pmSorry, that I used my least favourite figure of speech, evidently, I can wait but hopefully you knew what I meant.
Although in this modern age the time and date of a program has almost become irrelevant with the various forms of catch up TV available.
Although I'm still pissed off that the BBC' didn't keep They Shall Not Grow Old on the iPlayer for longer than a week
I would be shocked if RTE didn't commission a second seriesPhil Reynolds wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:58 pm
The Radio Times preview is suitably appetite-whetting:
I thought it was OK. Had some nice moments, and I liked the development of the character of Billy, but it suffered from the same problem as most "Christmas specials" in that the sentiment seemed pasted on rather than being a natural by-product of the characters and their situation. Also the principal's family didn't really have much to do with the plot, and the filming location for Conor's house had clearly changed from the first series. But anyway, hopefully we won't have to wait too long for series 2.
I probably was on an RTE website.
I watched it on a thing called BBC1. It's great, you should give it a try.
Try not to watch BBC TV as it's ruining TV with its positive discrimination gone mad policy.( Dr Who, I rest my case ).Phil Reynolds wrote: ↑Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:00 amI watched it on a thing called BBC1. It's great, you should give it a try.
Absolutely enjoying the shit out of Fargo. Half way through season 3 and they're all individually brilliantly acted, cinematographed, soundtracked.. everything. The style is just so stylish. Will be gutted when I'm finished.
The first two series were on channel 4.Paul Worsley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 12:15 amJust finished watching Black Mirror on Netflix.
For the most part I thoroughly enjoyed it, but for some reason Netflix made me watch it back to front (kind of a Black Mirror moment), so I watched Season 4 first and Season 1 last.
All fine, until tonight, when I watched my final episode, "The National Anthem".
What can I say? The biggest pile of shite that's ever come through my TV screen (and yes, I have watched a full episode of "Mrs Brown's Boys").
The entire premise was distasteful and ludicrous. I'm amazed the series wasn't pulled after episode 1.
Did it make you or did it just come as by default and you didn't do anything to stop it?
Not sure. Maybe our Smart TVs are watching us and gauging our reactions to each episode before deciding which one to show us next.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:26 pmDid it make you or did it just come as by default and you didn't do anything to stop it?
Probably because outside of Bible-Belt America, TV stations tend not to be run by concerned prudes. The days of Mary Whitehouse types having influence over media have long gone, thank god.
Hard to believe that Alan Partridge had been going for 25 years , longer if you count the radio
I may go back to Season 2 but after 2 episodes I was disappointed, but Season three is superb, Dourf and Ali really acted well in this and Scoot McNairy was excellent too.Matt Morrison wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:47 amJust finished True Detective season 3. Had held off season 2 because of the poor reviews for years, but watched 2 and 3 in close succession. Thought 2 was pretty decent - it's only poor in comparison to how good season 1 was, it's not really poor at all reviewed objectively as a standalone drama. Still really enjoyed it. 3 was excellent. I still don't think it was as good as season 1 perhaps, but still brilliant. Ali is a stunning actor I think.
It had plot holes you could drive a tank through, unbelievable behaviour by grown men and women in a position of trust, ridiculous, reasoning and motives.
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