Spoilers for Monday 5th October

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:31 pm

I thought I'd create a spoilers thread for a change. I'm only doing this one as I want to say one thing before it starts:

A VFSMB to the first person who can spot the deliberate mistake on Monday's show. Me and Sid picked up on it in the studio audience and they didn't retake. I hope they don't edit it out either but it will definitely be interesting to watch.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:04 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I thought I'd create a spoilers thread for a change. I'm only doing this one as I want to say one thing before it starts:

A VFSMB to the first person who can spot the deliberate mistake on Monday's show. Me and Sid picked up on it in the studio audience and they didn't retake. I hope they don't edit it out either but it will definitely be interesting to watch.

If the mistake was deliberate, why would they even consider a retake? Not being picky, just wondering if you really meant it was deliberate. I never spot these things so I want to be prepared.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:10 pm

Matt Morrison wrote: If the mistake was deliberate, why would they even consider a retake? Not being picky, just wondering if you really meant it was deliberate. I never spot these things so I want to be prepared.

Haha. Good point. It wasn't a deliberate mistake, no, just...a mistake. Sorry.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:49 pm

Contestant asks for a consonant, Rachel takes a letter from the consonant box, and its an E.

Next.............

Darren Carter · Post by **Darren Carter** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:52 pm

D Eadie wrote:Contestant asks for a consonant, Rachel takes a letter from the consonant box, and its an E.

Next.............

Killjoy!

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:54 pm

I might be wrong.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:38 pm

Bloody hell, Damian, you really do turn being a bastard into an art form

Lesley Jeavons · Post by **Lesley Jeavons** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:38 pm

Diff way from Rachel in time
5 x 7 x 25
- (8/4) x 5

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:40 pm

Lesley Jeavons wrote:Diff way from Rachel in time
5 x 7 x 25
- (8/4) x 5

I did that - I can't do these split multipications in 30 secs

Douglas Wilson · Post by **Douglas Wilson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:40 pm

Has this incident occurred yet, I've only just been able to switch on?

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:41 pm

Missed the 1st minute

What was the mistake?

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:44 pm

So did I - don't know if the mistake has been on - I was just commenting on Damian's general evil demeanour

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:46 pm

If I remember correctly, you don't have too long to wait.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:48 pm

Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:49 pm

WEEDILY!!! Quick before Susie says it!

Ooh, she didn't. I win!

Douglas Wilson · Post by **Douglas Wilson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:51 pm

Surely the loser of this game will get another go for that error.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:52 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?

Didn't notice - I can't play Countdown, post on here AND observe what's happening on the telly.

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:55 pm

Well, tell us - this IS the spoilers thread!

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:55 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?

I noticed, but because no-one else seemed too, I thought I'd gone mad

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:57 pm

Sue Sanders wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?
Didn't notice - I can't play Countdown, post on here AND observe what's happening on the telly.

Was referring to the contestants, Dictionary Corner, and the presenters

Damian already said what had happened at the start of this thread, I just had expected it to be laughed about and then a proper consonant pulled out, that was the surprising bit!
Maybe like Kirk said, it was a deliberate mistake after all...

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:58 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?
I noticed, but because no-one else seemed too, I thought I'd gone mad

Is it what Damian said?- one of the E's in the WEEDILY (Ker-ching) round was supposed to be a consonant?

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:02 pm

Sue Sanders wrote:
James Robinson wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:Hmm... did nobody notice or just too scared to mention it?
I noticed, but because no-one else seemed too, I thought I'd gone mad
Is it what Damian said?- one of the E's in the WEEDILY (Ker-ching) round was supposed to be a consonent?

Basically, yes!

EDIT: That brings up no. 400! Yay.

David Kurdynowski · Post by **David Kurdynowski** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:09 pm

I didn't notice it on the day, have just watched it and didn't notice it again!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:13 pm

Think Tony noticed it though as he looked rather puzzled for a second. By the way Damian, nice scramble for the conundrum ULEVERTON, using Tony's surname in the scramble. I spoke to him afterwards and he said it put him off a bit as he saw his own name but I said that he could have used it to his advantage as he might have already studied stuff like LEVERTON + U = VOLUNTEER and LEVERTON + S = RESOLVENT.

By the way David, I also had WEEDLE and was surprised when it was disallowed - don't know what word we were thinking of. WEEDILY, Sue, is not valid I'm afraid.

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:15 pm

David Kurdynowski wrote:I didn't notice it on the day, have just watched it and didn't notice it again!

I'd blame it on nerves on the day but not noticing it a second time? Crikey. I thought they would cut the round but they never did and of course the audience don't get a chance to say anything straight after any round so it was always going to stay like that.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:20 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Think Tony noticed it though as he looked rather puzzled for a second. By the way Damian, nice scramble for the conundrum ULEVERTON, using Tony's surname in the scramble. I spoke to him afterwards and he said it put him off a bit as he saw his own name but I said that he could have used it to his advantage as he might have already studied stuff like LEVERTON + U = VOLUNTEER and LEVERTON + S = RESOLVENT.

By the way David, I also had WEEDLE and was surprised when it was disallowed - don't know what word we were thinking of. WEEDILY, Sue, is not valid I'm afraid.

I think it is spelt WHEEDLE

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:28 pm

Marc Meakin wrote: I think it is spelt WHEEDLE

Genius. Thanks, Marc.

Alec Rivers · Post by **Alec Rivers** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:15 pm

Round 12 - Lexplorer says DC's word, ALOHAS, is invalid.

Round 14 - Simpler solution: (100 + 9 + 3) × 3 - 50 = 286.

Malcolm James · Post by **Malcolm James** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:18 pm

R13: FRIEZES for 7

Watched prog on C4+1 and very surprised no-one has already got this.

Liam Tiernan · Post by **Liam Tiernan** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:30 pm

Alec Rivers wrote:Round 12 - Lexplorer says DC's word, ALOHAS, is invalid.

Round 14 - Simpler solution: (100 + 9 + 3) × 3 - 50 = 286.

HALONS?
(50X3)+100+((3+1)x9)=286

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:26 pm

Malcolm James wrote:R13: FRIEZES for 7

Watched prog on C4+1 and very surprised no-one has already got this.

Same - when not watching live (i.e. all the time) I always presume any actual beaters I spot will have been got long ago.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Think Tony noticed it though as he looked rather puzzled for a second. By the way Damian, nice scramble for the conundrum ULEVERTON, using Tony's surname in the scramble. I spoke to him afterwards and he said it put him off a bit as he saw his own name but I said that he could have used it to his advantage as he might have already studied stuff like LEVERTON + U = VOLUNTEER and LEVERTON + S = RESOLVENT.

Expect the unexpected, that's the idea.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:11 pm

Some more equallers/beaters:

Round 2 - STAMPERS
Round 3 - EQUANTS
Round 4 - SPOILED & TOPSIDE
Round 13 - FRIEZES (shame Malcolm beat me to it, but never mind.)

Alternative to 3rd numbers:

3 x 100 = 300

300 - 50 = 250

3 + 1 = 4

4 x 9 = 36

250 + 36 = 286

P.S. If Damian can read this, why was the very first letters game changed? (For those who weren't there, the first letters game was immediately withdrawn, just as the last letter was put on display.)

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:32 am

Have no idea, could be for a number of reasons.
Camera out of focus, mikes not working, contestant only picked 2 vowels...........the end is listless.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:50 am

D Eadie wrote:Have no idea, could be for a number of reasons.
Camera out of focus, mikes not working, contestant only picked 2 vowels...........the end is listless.

It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:10 am

[quote="James Robinson It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.[/quote]

Probably.

Charlie Reams · Post by **Charlie Reams** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:18 am

Davy Affleck wrote:[quote="James Robinson It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.

Probably.[/quote]
You should be careful with that rapier!

Sue Sanders · Post by **Sue Sanders** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:36 am

James Robinson wrote:
D Eadie wrote:Have no idea, could be for a number of reasons.
Camera out of focus, mikes not working, contestant only picked 2 vowels...........the end is listless.
It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.

How do you know if the cameras are out of focus?

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:47 am

Sue Sanders wrote:
James Robinson wrote:
D Eadie wrote:Have no idea, could be for a number of reasons.
Camera out of focus, mikes not working, contestant only picked 2 vowels...........the end is listless.
It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.
How do you know if the cameras are out of focus?

When you're in the studio, there are some TV's above your head showing what would be shown on screen. Yet, they didn't seem out of focus either.

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:56 am

James Robinson wrote:
Sue Sanders wrote:
James Robinson wrote:It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.
How do you know if the cameras are out of focus?
When you're in the studio, there are some TV's above your head showing what would be shown on screen. Yet, they didn't seem out of focus either.

Did the letters spell out "PENWOMAN" or some other profanity?

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:02 am

Okay, so the camera wasnt out of focus and there were more than 2 vowels.
The list is still endless as to what it could have been. It's not an unusual occurence for us to scrap a round and start again. They were just examples i gave. Could have been someone coughing all the way through it, the tape machine jamming, a studio fly, bad lighting, i really have no recollection. 225 rds in 3 days are recorded. Take your pick. Maybe we just stopped for the sake of it.

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:12 am

Jon Corby wrote:
James Robinson wrote:It certainly wasn't 2 vowels. I have the selection at home. When I get back I'll put it up for proof. I seemed to think that all was well, but that could just be me.
Did the letters spell out "PENWOMAN" or some other profanity?

No, they were just an average mix of letters. There might have even been a possible 9.

D Eadie wrote:Maybe we just stopped for the sake of it.

Fair enough. I was just showing curiosity. It just seemed odd, since there was nothing too obvious to us in the crowd.

D Eadie · Post by **D Eadie** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:19 am

I think it was a fly.

Davy Affleck · Post by **Davy Affleck** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:28 am

D Eadie wrote:I think it was a fly.

In the ointment?

Jon Corby · Post by **Jon Corby** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:46 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:I spoke to him afterwards and he said it put him off a bit as he saw his own name but I said that he could have used it to his advantage as he might have already studied stuff like LEVERTON + U = VOLUNTEER and LEVERTON + S = RESOLVENT.

Did he make his excuses and leave the conversation shortly after that?

David Kurdynowski · Post by **David Kurdynowski** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:25 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
David Kurdynowski wrote:I didn't notice it on the day, have just watched it and didn't notice it again!
I'd blame it on nerves on the day but not noticing it a second time? Crikey. I thought they would cut the round but they never did and of course the audience don't get a chance to say anything straight after any round so it was always going to stay like that.

Now I know what happened! As soon as I saw those letters coming up I knew I was going to say "weedle", so out of embarrassment I turned over to the snooker on BBC2 because I couldn't bear to watch it. That's how I missed it second time!

David Kurdynowski · Post by **David Kurdynowski** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:27 pm

Davy Affleck wrote:
D Eadie wrote:I think it was a fly.

In the ointment?

It was a fly in my ointment. I had an 8.

David Kurdynowski · Post by **David Kurdynowski** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:53 pm

What might have been! I suppose when you lose it's always good to have a list of excuses. Here's mine:
1.) 1st lot of letters being cancelled. I think it may have been a sound problem, probably me mumbling into my shirt. I did have an eight letter word.
2.)Having "tokening" disallowed in the retake of round one. Slightly disappointing because it was the first word I looked up in the 2 volume dictionary I got in my goody bag and it's in there as a noun and token is also listed as a verb .
3.) My brother texted me to say I should have got "plantain" and he's right. Unfortunately because of my Thai connection I have been calling them "GUAY" for the last 20 years.
4.) Asking for a consonant and getting an e!
5.) Did anybody get that second numbers game?

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:57 pm

David Kurdynowski wrote: 5.) Did anybody get that second numbers game?

I think it was impossible David.

Marc Meakin · Post by **Marc Meakin** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:59 pm

David Kurdynowski wrote:What might have been! I suppose when you lose it's always good to have a list of excuses. Here's mine:
1.) 1st lot of letters being cancelled. I think it may have been a sound problem, probably me mumbling into my shirt. I did have an eight letter word.
2.)Having "tokening" disallowed in the retake of round one. Slightly disappointing because it was the first word I looked up in the 2 volume dictionary I got in my goody bag and it's in there as a noun and token is also listed as a verb .
3.) My brother texted me to say I should have got "plantain" and he's right. Unfortunately because of my Thai connection I have been calling them "GUAY" for the last 20 years.
4.) Asking for a consonant and getting an e!
5.) Did anybody get that second numbers game?

Hey you could have added a sixth reason, due to the conundrum including your opponents surname in the scramble, making it potentially easier for him

James Robinson · Post by **James Robinson** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:04 pm

If anyone is interested that deleted selection was RSELDAECI.

Derek Hazell · Post by **Derek Hazell** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:13 pm

James Robinson wrote:If anyone is interested that deleted selection was RSELDAECI.

I'm not surprised David had an 8 - RESCALED jumped straight out even to me!

David Roe · Post by **David Roe** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:55 pm

Maybe the reshoot was because one of the contestants' mothers had a hearing aid in her pocket which was whistling just loudly enough for the cameras to pick up but not loudly enough to be heard anywhere around. It does happen, I can speak from experience.