Spoilers for Monday February 2nd 2009

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:11 pm

It's the first game of series 60, and Number 1 seed and king of the castle Zoe Bowman defends her position at the zenith of the leaderboard today against the second of potentially eight dirty rascals.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:30 pm

what on earth did Rachel just say when GOD came out in R1 letters? It was truly mumbletastic.

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:31 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:what on earth did Rachel just say when GOD came out in R1 letters? It was truly mumbletastic.

The look on Rachel's face when that woman said "he's with us" (or did Rachel say that, I wasn't paying attention).

Mike Brailsford · Post by **Mike Brailsford** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Round 2 = PIKIEST ?

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:what on earth did Rachel just say when GOD came out in R1 letters? It was truly mumbletastic.
The look on Rachel's face when that woman said "he's with us" (or did Rachel say that, I wasn't paying attention).

Not sure... Zoe and Rachel both seemed to mumble something simultaneously, I didn't catch either... looked like Rachel wasn't sure whether to make a joke or just ignore GOD's existence...

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:35 pm

MENSURAL as an anagram of NUMERALS. Crikey I wish it was still CoC

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:36 pm

I love that guy's technique of just sitting there looking absolutely disgusted.

Mike Brailsford wrote:Round 2 = PIKIEST ?

Not there I'm afraid.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:37 pm

I'm enjoying Andrew's flat refusal to write down anything in any round, haha.

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:39 pm

8x25 = 200
200 + 9 = 209
209x4 = 836
10/5 = 2
836 - 2 = 834

Mark Kudlowski · Post by **Mark Kudlowski** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:51 pm

MARINATES for Round 7 ?

2nd Numbers: 100 + 75 + 4 = 179; (50/25) + 3 = 5; 179 x 5 =895

Last letters game: FRIARIES

Last numbers game: (((4 x 2) + 4 ) x 50) + (8 x 8).

Innis Carson · Post by **Innis Carson** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:58 pm

I don't think MARINATES was there, weren't there two Ts?
Great numbers solution though.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:58 pm

Mark Kudlowski wrote:MARINATES for Round 7 ?

Fraid you've got the wrong letters. It was AEIRTMTSA

Phil Reynolds · Post by **Phil Reynolds** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:04 pm

REUNIONS as a DC beater in round 12.

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm

(8*4)=32
32+50=82
82*8=656
4*2+8
656+8=664

Ben Hunter · Post by **Ben Hunter** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm

Could be in for a double conundrum!

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:07 pm

very poor not to get those numbers, I thought pretty easy:

4 x 2 = 8, + 4 = 12
12 x 50 = 600
8 x 8 = 64

600 + 64 = 664

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:09 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:very poor not to get those numbers, I thought pretty easy:

4 x 2 = 8, + 4 = 12
12 x 50 = 600
8 x 8 = 64

600 + 64 = 664

This solution and mine are quite counter-intuitive - I was happy to get them and I'm the greatest numbers player of all time - so I don't agree with you.

Lesley Jeavons · Post by **Lesley Jeavons** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:09 pm

Ditto to Matt - two 8s were just begging me to get the 64 out of the way.

Craig Beevers · Post by **Craig Beevers** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:10 pm

I did...

50 - 8 = 42
42 x 8 x 2 = 672
672 - 4 - 4 = 664

Could do 42 x 8 then take off 4 if you wanted to use one less number

Ben Wilson · Post by **Ben Wilson** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:10 pm

Last numbers alt- (50+4+2)*(8+4)-8

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:12 pm

Jon O'Neill wrote:This solution and mine are quite counter-intuitive - I was happy to get them and I'm the greatest numbers player of all time - so I don't agree with you.

I'm not going to bite as I am fairly sure you are joking

Jon O'Neill · Post by **Jon O'Neill** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:13 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:
Jon O'Neill wrote:This solution and mine are quite counter-intuitive - I was happy to get them and I'm the greatest numbers player of all time - so I don't agree with you.
I'm not going to bite as I am fairly sure you are joking

Yeah, I was

I am though.

Jeff Clayton · Post by **Jeff Clayton** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:15 pm

Seemingly lots of ways to get 664 - here's another:

50 + 4 = 54
8 + 4 = 12
54 x 12 = 648
8 x 2 = 16
648 + 16 = 664

Jeff

Martin Bishop · Post by **Martin Bishop** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:16 pm

I'm a bit disappointed with Rachel today. I got the first and last numbers games correct in the time and would have expected her to get at least one of them before the clock finished. She did well to find a solution to the tricky second numbers, though.

Clare Sudbery · Post by **Clare Sudbery** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:17 pm

Jon O'Neill wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:very poor not to get those numbers, I thought pretty easy:

4 x 2 = 8, + 4 = 12
12 x 50 = 600
8 x 8 = 64

600 + 64 = 664
This solution and mine are quite counter-intuitive - I was happy to get them and I'm the greatest numbers player of all time - so I don't agree with you.

I got the same as Matt, and within 15 secs. Don't see how it's counter-intuitive. My first approach was to look for 13x50, but there was no easy way to get 13. So I thought about 12x50 instead, and then of course saw instantly the two 8s for 8x8 = 64. All I had to do then was look for a way of getting 12 out of 4,4,2 which as Matt says is just (4x2) + 4.

Maybe counter-intuitive is a very personal thing, i.e. sauce for goose etc?

I saw REUNIONS in the 2nd to last letters round, too. One of those where it leapt out at me without me even writing the letters out in a circle, but that doesn't happen to me often. Just luck I think.

Paul Howe · Post by **Paul Howe** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:17 pm

Dinos Sfyris wrote: Fraid you've got the wrong letters. It was AEIRTMTSA

AMARETTI + S = ???????

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METATARSI (making the possibly false assumption from the posts so far that it wasn't mentioned on the show)

Emily Toogood · Post by **Emily Toogood** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:20 pm

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:22 pm

Emily Toogood wrote:No?

Not here, no. Here.

Clare Sudbery · Post by **Clare Sudbery** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:25 pm

Jon O'Neill wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:
Jon O'Neill wrote:This solution and mine are quite counter-intuitive - I was happy to get them and I'm the greatest numbers player of all time - so I don't agree with you.
I'm not going to bite as I am fairly sure you are joking
Yeah, I was

I am though.

Oh dear, I didn't see this. Fell for it again! Doh.

Matt Morrison · Post by **Matt Morrison** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:31 pm

Clare Sudbery wrote:Oh dear, I didn't see this. Fell for it again! Doh.

Rule of thumb... assume that every single post on here is a joke unless you have insurmountable proof otherwise.

Jai Benson · Post by **Jai Benson** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:33 pm

Re God - it was Rachael said "He's with us".

Loved and got "jounced" a very round word.

Dinos Sfyris · Post by **Dinos Sfyris** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:08 pm

Jeez I didn't even notch up a century today. Did dire on today's numbers. On the last one I saw 600 (a multiple of 100) + 64 (8x8) and was sat pretty thinking (100+8)x8=664

then desperately tried to find 83x8 but was left with a bucket of fail! Saw Matt's method after time, closely followed by Jono's. Thought John Inverdale's bit on most dangerous animals was quite interesting. Any takers for what might be number 1? Also Paul well done on METATARSI. Epic spot

Katherine Birkett · Post by **Katherine Birkett** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:14 pm

Letters 1 – GOADED

Letters 2 – PASTIE

Letters 3 – SMALLER

Letters 4 – CLONED

Numbers 1 – 835

Tea Time Teaser 1 – got HOARDING

Letters 5 – MATIER

Letters 6 – BELATED

Letters 7 – WEAPON

Letters 8 – TIRADES

Numbers 2 – A slow brain didn’t get in gear!

Tea Time Teaser 2 – got RECEIVER

Letters 9 – FOOTIE

Letters 10 – SUNNIER

Letters 11 – FAIRIES

Numbers 3 – got up to 640!

Conundrum – Nope!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:21 pm

Man, I hate watching it on 4od as you always beat me to the beaters. I got METATARSI which I was pleased with (after having AM(A/O)RETTI/O + S written by my dartboard for weeks to aid memory) and REUNIONS. I also got 664 and 834 so I'm far too late. One beater I did get that hasn't been mentioned: NOUMENA in round 8.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:59 pm

Ben Hunter wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:what on earth did Rachel just say when GOD came out in R1 letters? It was truly mumbletastic.
The look on Rachel's face when that woman said "he's with us" (or did Rachel say that, I wasn't paying attention).

Definitely Rachel who said "He's with us"

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:10 pm

Craig Beevers wrote:8x25 = 200
200 + 9 = 209
209x4 = 836
10/5 = 2
836 - 2 = 834

Sorry Craig, but there was no 25 in it. It was a 50

My version:
4 x 50 = 200
200 + 8 = 208
208 x 4 = 832
832 + 2 = 835

Could excuse Rachel not getting one of them, but 2 + 1 out of time. Shame on her.
I failed maths O levels 3 times with a "D" (way back when we had A, C & E as passes) and still managed to get this one in about 10 seconds.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:16 pm

Dinos Sfyris wrote:Jeez I didn't even notch up a century today. Did dire on today's numbers. On the last one I saw 600 (a multiple of 100) + 64 (8x8) and was sat pretty thinking (100+8)x8=664 then desperately tried to find 83x8 but was left with a bucket of fail! Saw Matt's method after time, closely followed by Jono's. Thought John Inverdale's bit on most dangerous animals was quite interesting. Any takers for what might be number 1? Also Paul well done on METATARSI. Epic spot

My money's on number 1 being "Man" or "Humans" though "Woman" would be most apt!!!

Kirk Bevins · Post by **Kirk Bevins** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:21 pm

Laurent wrote:

Sorry Craig, but there was no 25 in it. It was a 50

My version:
4 x 50 = 200
200 + 8 = 208
208 x 4 = 832
832 + 2 = 835

Sorry Laurent, there was no 50 in it. It was a 25

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:34 pm

Laurent wrote:
Craig Beevers wrote:8x25 = 200
200 + 9 = 209
209x4 = 836
10/5 = 2
836 - 2 = 834

Sorry Craig, but there was no 25 in it. It was a 50

My version:
4 x 50 = 200
200 + 8 = 208
208 x 4 = 832
832 + 2 = 835

Could excuse Rachel not getting one of them, but 2 + 1 out of time. Shame on her.
I failed maths O levels 3 times with a "D" (way back when we had A, C & E as passes) and still managed to get this one in about 10 seconds.

Apologies Craig, ignore the above. Don't know what I was on. Perhaps the coke zero was too cold!!! 832 + 2 = 834, which was not even the sum set, that was the one in R3. Yours was R1. I hang my head in shame.

Also, Rachel got 2 out of time not 1 as I said. I usually jump through the ads, saves 10 minutes and not really relevant to me here in Switzerland, so I missed her solution beginning R2.
So I got that wrong as well.

Laurent · Post by **Laurent** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:35 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:
Laurent wrote:

Sorry Craig, but there was no 25 in it. It was a 50

My version:
4 x 50 = 200
200 + 8 = 208
208 x 4 = 832
832 + 2 = 835

Sorry Laurent, there was no 50 in it. It was a 25

Yes, I got them muddled up. Thanks for putting me on the right path.

Michael Wallace · Post by **Michael Wallace** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:44 pm

Yeah, pretty shocked by the numbers today from Rachel - with the first one it seems fairly natural to to 25 x 4 x 8 and then it doesn't take too long to check splitting the multiplication up until you get the one that works (25 x 8 + 9). The last numbers miss made my jaw drop a bit, but I suppose everyone has off days.

edit: oh oh, and Susie finally mentioned something that "you see in chat rooms on the Internet" that I've actually encountered. Now all she needs to do is start talking about lolcats and the lolrus, and then maybe modding will get in

David Gunn · Post by **David Gunn** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:34 pm

I was surprised to see PASTIE allowed in Round 2.
The singular of Pasties is PASTY, and none of my dictionaries mention PASTIE, though having checked online I see that it is included as a variant in the OED.

Vikash Shah · Post by **Vikash Shah** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:38 pm

Michael Wallace wrote:Yeah, pretty shocked by the numbers today from Rachel - with the first one it seems fairly natural to to 25 x 4 x 8 and then it doesn't take too long to check splitting the multiplication up until you get the one that works (25 x 8 + 9). The last numbers miss made my jaw drop a bit, but I suppose everyone has off days.

Same here. I failed with the second one but got the first right on 30s and third one in about 10s. Fortunately Rachel is just too scrumptious for me to stay mad at

Pete Fraser · Post by **Pete Fraser** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:54 pm

Laurent wrote:
Ben Hunter wrote:
Matt Morrison wrote:what on earth did Rachel just say when GOD came out in R1 letters? It was truly mumbletastic.
The look on Rachel's face when that woman said "he's with us" (or did Rachel say that, I wasn't paying attention).
Definitely Rachel who said "He's with us"

That was bizarre. From the way she was looking across the studio, it seemed to me that it was some private joke between Rachel and Jeff.