Ongoing series 77 general discussion thread (will contain spoilers!!!)

Discuss anything that happened in recent games. This is the place to post any words you got that beat Dictionary Corner, or numbers games that evaded Rachel.

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Ongoing series 77 general discussion thread (will contain spoilers!!!)

Post by Martin Hurst » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:10 pm

The daily spoilers threads work really well, but it isn't the easiest format to have ongoing discussions about more general things like how the series is shaping up in terms of how the seedings are looking, apterites who are coming up as future challengers, when it nears finals time our predictions (as the setting up of a finals prediction tab is itself a spoiler - (see http://www.c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic. ... 94#p166751 ) etc etc.

So, I thought I'd set up a thread for such discussions to see how it works out :)

I'll also do a bit of statistical analysis once anyone octos, or loses after getting 4 wins or more.

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Post by Martin Hurst » Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:36 pm

So, Starting with Tom Chafer-Cook.

Wins: 8
Points: 896
Current seed: 1
Total Maximums: 82/120 (68%)

Letters Maximums: 54/80 (68%)
Badges (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant on CD before*): 12
Medals (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant or DC on CD before**): 7
Badged words: Furnaces, Mixture, Prolate, Infernal, Petaloid, Warfare, Paltrier, Lovable, Varioles, Ugliness, Veinous, Pongees
Medalled words: Onsteads, Queuing, Biowars, Macrolide, Aerostats, Traineaus, Crinoids

Numbers Maximums: 23/32 (72%)
6 small: 2/3
1 large: 18/24 (75%)
2 large: 1/3
3 large: 1/1
4 large: 1/1

Conundrum Maximums: 5/8
Conundrum record: Won 5, Lost 2, Unsolved 1

* = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast - excludes Medals
** = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast

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Post by Noel Mc » Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:43 am

Tom was awesome. Not overly surprised that his 7th game was close, the strength of his opponent being one factor, but also that it was his fifth episode in a row, probably filmed at about 8pm at night!

I'm up on the 15th of August, but 24 episodes before that!

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Post by Johnny Canuck » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:13 pm

Did anyone notice the rather monumental coincidence related to the targets that CECIL came up with today?
There are three erors in this semtence.

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Post by Martin Hurst » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:21 am

Johnny Canuck wrote:
Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:13 pm
Did anyone notice the rather monumental coincidence related to the targets that CECIL came up with today?
I didn't until I saw it on the Apterous Wiki page ;-) http://wiki.apterous.org/Episode_6622 - how on earth did you spot this? :shock:

I make it a one in 653,188,856,401 chance of that happening :lol:

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Post by Johnny Canuck » Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:10 am

Martin Hurst wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:21 am
I didn't until I saw it on the Apterous Wiki page ;-) http://wiki.apterous.org/Episode_6622 - how on earth did you spot this? :shock:
Just a weird déjà vu thing -- I thought CECIL had been generating a lot of high targets recently, knew I had seen 986 as a target earlier in the week, and then when the 910 came up in the last game I recalled that Tom's last numbers game was also a 910 that wasn't solved by either of the players (and which I did with a final step of 130*7 both times).
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I make it a one in 653,188,856,401 chance of that happening :lol:
Agreed, far too improbable to happen by chance within a lifetime. I suspect it was a bug, whereby the file or memory address that has the targets in it got reused somehow. I wonder if tomorrow's targets will match Tuesday's, too.
There are three erors in this semtence.

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:05 pm

I didn't notice it, but did notice that 228 had come up a few times recently - it came up in a Cats game recently I think too.

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Post by Martin Hurst » Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:25 pm

Shabir Alidina

Wins: 4
Points: 364
Current seed: 2
Total Maximums: 13/75 (17%)

Letters Maximums: 3/50 (6%)
Badges (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant on CD before*): 0
Medals (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant or DC on CD before**): 0
Badged words: N/A
Medalled words: N/A

Numbers Maximums: 9/20 (45%)
6 small: 1/2
1 large: 4/12 (33%)
2 large: 4/6
3 large: 0/0
4 large: 0/0

Conundrum Maximums: 1/5
Conundrum record: Won 1, Lost 1, Unsolved 3

* = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast - excludes medals
** = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast

Unlikely to make the finals however - 4 wins/364 points wouldn't have made the finals in a "full length" series since series 60.

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Post by Martin Hurst » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:10 am

The stats for the enigmatic John Cowen (coincidentally I just missed "enigmatic" as a conundrum on Apterous :oops: )

Wins: 8
Points: 799
Current seed: 2
Total Maximums: 56/120 (47%)

Letters Maximums: 36/80 (45%)
Badges (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant on CD before*): 4
Medals (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant or DC on CD before**): 4
Badged words: Uncoiled, Uxorial, Ominous, Quintets
Medalled words: Mortalise, Countable, Flossing, Gorditas

Numbers Maximums: 14/32 (44%)
6 small: 7/17 (41%)
1 large: 3/6
2 large: 4/9
3 large: 0/0
4 large: 0/0

Conundrum Maximums: 6/8
Conundrum record: Won 6, Lost 0, Unsolved 2

* = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast - excludes Medals
** = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast

Quick comparison to current no1 seed Tom Chafer-Cook:

Letters maxes - TCC 68%, JC 45%
Numbers maxes - TCC 72%, JC 44%

John's total of 799 should typically see him somewhere between the 3rd and 6th seed position for the finals. Reckon he could have easily been 50+ points more if he went 1 large on all numbers games rather than 6s, so may end up artificially a bit lower seeded than he perhaps should be.

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Post by L'oisleatch McGraw » Sat Jul 29, 2017 4:52 pm

My fave John Cowen declarations:-
OMINOUS
MORTALISE
HEARSE.

All we need now is for him to get something like GHOULISH in the series finals to cap things off nicely. :)
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Post by Noel Mc » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:36 pm

I wonder if he will change tactic for the numbers come the final?

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Post by Elliott Mellor » Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Noel Mc wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:36 pm
I wonder if he will change tactic for the numbers come the final?
He seems to either get it spot on or not get anywhere close generally, and he doesn't seem to want to deviate so I doubt it. His factorising is very good, so for something like 689 he'll see 53*13, but when it's something like 827 which is prime, he gets way too flustered trying to get it exactly rather than getting somewhere close as insurance. I wonder if he'd have got it had the target been 828, which has a lot of factors. I'd say probably.

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Post by Martin Hurst » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:42 pm

Summary for Michael "Cov" Pfeffer.........

Wins: 8
Points: 770
Current seed: 3
Total Maximums: 44/120 (37%)

Letters Maximums: 23/80 (29%)
Badges (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant on CD before*): 0
Medals (7+ length maxes not previously submitted as a max by a contestant or DC on CD before**): 3
Badged words: N/A
Medalled words: Trundled, Lactated, Upvoting

Numbers Maximums: 17/32 (53%)
6 small: 0/3
1 large: 11/16 (69%)
2 large: 4/7
3 large: 0/0
4 large: 2/6

Conundrum Maximums: 4/8
Conundrum record: Won 4, Lost 2, Unsolved 2

* = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast - excludes Medals
** = according to all games on Apterous Wiki, and as at day of broadcast

3 octochamps now with 88 prelims still left - could we be on for over 8 octochamps this series........?

Michael seemed like a good guy and obviously capable of producing performances to match (10 maxes in his 4th game a particularly notable performance), but was very inconsistent - his last game was particularly a bit of a stinker!

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:22 pm

Martin Hurst wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:42 pm
3 octochamps now with 88 prelims still left - could we be on for over 8 octochamps this series........?
I've been hoping for this since series 47. Fingers crossed.

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