Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

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Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Tony Atkins » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:21 pm

Matt Tassier back for game 6 - can he be an octchamp this week?
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Tony Atkins » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:21 pm

((4+5)x9+2)x10+8=838
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Steven M. McCann » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:28 pm

CHEERIO in the CHEERY round.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Peter Mabey » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:38 pm

Alt first numbers: ((4+5)x10+2)x9=838

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Tony Atkins » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:56 pm

According to apterous FAUXEST is allowed as a beater, and there was another one available in the SONATA round.
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Tony Atkins » Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:57 pm

Peter Mabey wrote:Alt first numbers: ((4+5)x10+2)x9=838
Unfortunately 838 doesn't divide by 9 - check by adding the digits.
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Mark Kudlowski » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:31 pm

Tony Atkins wrote:
Peter Mabey wrote:Alt first numbers: ((4+5)x10+2)x9=838
Unfortunately 838 doesn't divide by 9 - check by adding the digits.
8+3+8=19; 1+9 = 10; 1+0 = 1 therefore 838/9 leaves remainder of 1 .

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Edward Byrne » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:45 pm

I saw SEXTAPE in round 11 the expats round but it isn't in, i thought it was plausible

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by James Robinson » Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:44 pm

Steven M. McCann wrote:CHEERIO in the CHEERY round.
Also OCHREAE for another 7. :)

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Clive Brooker » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:39 pm

Tony Atkins wrote:According to apteous FAUXEST is allowed as a beater
Using the established criterion of being very strange, I wouldn't be surprised if this were disallowed.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:47 pm

Clive Brooker wrote:
Tony Atkins wrote:According to apteous FAUXEST is allowed as a beater
Using the established criterion of being very strange, I wouldn't be surprised if this were disallowed.
I don't think they could disallow it. It certainly wouldn't be disallowed in a CoC game, not that it should make a difference.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Jon Corby » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:36 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:I don't think they could disallow it. It certainly wouldn't be disallowed in a CoC game, not that it should make a difference.
What do you mean by that? Why do you think there are different rules for CoC and non-CoC?

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:40 pm

Jon Corby wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:I don't think they could disallow it. It certainly wouldn't be disallowed in a CoC game, not that it should make a difference.
What do you mean by that? Why do you think there are different rules for CoC and non-CoC?
There aren't but in the past Susie's dismissively said stuff like "I can't think of any way you'd use that word", whereas with the top players, she's more likely to think that they're right by default and then go on to understand the logic behind the declaration.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Graeme Cole » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:56 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Jon Corby wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:I don't think they could disallow it. It certainly wouldn't be disallowed in a CoC game, not that it should make a difference.
What do you mean by that? Why do you think there are different rules for CoC and non-CoC?
There aren't but in the past Susie's dismissively said stuff like "I can't think of any way you'd use that word", whereas with the top players, she's more likely to think that they're right by default and then go on to understand the logic behind the declaration.
I haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples in mind?

I'd always allow TRUER and TRUEST, so I'd also allow FALSER and FALSEST, and since FAUX means false, I'd find it difficult to disallow FAUXER and FAUXEST. Perhaps "this faux outrage is the fauxest outrage I've ever seen" sounds a bit clumsy, but IMO it's a valid usage example and therefore not one of those "I can't think of a case where you'd use it" situations.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Gavin Chipper » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:26 pm

Graeme Cole wrote:I haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples in mind?
Basically any time she's incorrectly disallowed a word.
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Jon Corby » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:13 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Graeme Cole wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:I haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples in mind?
Basically any time she's incorrectly disallowed a word.
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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:04 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Graeme Cole wrote:I haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples in mind?
Basically any time she's incorrectly disallowed a word.
E.g. RIGHTEST v BENTER. There's no direct proof, but I can imagine a "normal" contestant struggling to get BENTER past DC.

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Re: Spoilers for Monday 16 November 2015 (Series 73 Prelim 94)

Post by Clive Brooker » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:43 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Graeme Cole wrote:I haven't noticed this. Do you have any examples in mind?
Basically any time she's incorrectly disallowed a word.
E.g. RIGHTEST v BENTER. There's no direct proof, but I can imagine a "normal" contestant struggling to get BENTER past DC.
Since the "very strange" pronouncement, my impression is that things like this have been allowed more often, notably the first allowance of FEINTER.

Maybe it's been realised that unless there is proper guidance on what constitutes very strange, allowing everything is the only real option. A truly ridiculous example could always be covered up with a retake, and perhaps that's more economical than spending many hours developing new guidelines which might not work very well.

I'd be very surprised if Susie didn't see FAUXEST, but equally I doubt she'd want to give an opinion on it voluntarily. It's quite surprising to see this was the first time it's ever been the only plausible 7 in a selection.

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