SPOILER ALERT!! Des O Connor and his chatting
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SPOILER ALERT!! Des O Connor and his chatting
Now don't get me wrong, before I saw a single programme of Countdown I supported Des O Connor as host and still do.
Having said that, I feel he could improve in one aspect - chatting to the contestants.
I have lost count of the number of times he has introduced someone, read his crib card out, included observations and said, "We will talk more about that later" when I know he never will.
I got a bit behind with my Countdowns and have only just watched the Rev Barry defeated on his eighth show. Des didn't talk to him - after just failing to be an octochamp as well! Instead he went straight to the guest in Dictionary Corner, John Sargeant, for a further unnecessary conversation. I know he has years of talking to celebrities on Des O Connor tonight, but he ought to make a bit more time to try and let the contestants' personalities shine through. It could be that the director has edited all the chat out, in which case apologies to Des, and instead the flak goes to the director. Anyone else agree?
Having said that, I feel he could improve in one aspect - chatting to the contestants.
I have lost count of the number of times he has introduced someone, read his crib card out, included observations and said, "We will talk more about that later" when I know he never will.
I got a bit behind with my Countdowns and have only just watched the Rev Barry defeated on his eighth show. Des didn't talk to him - after just failing to be an octochamp as well! Instead he went straight to the guest in Dictionary Corner, John Sargeant, for a further unnecessary conversation. I know he has years of talking to celebrities on Des O Connor tonight, but he ought to make a bit more time to try and let the contestants' personalities shine through. It could be that the director has edited all the chat out, in which case apologies to Des, and instead the flak goes to the director. Anyone else agree?
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Yes
There's lots of spare time in the show. I don't understand.
There's lots of spare time in the show. I don't understand.
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I have to agree. The impression conveyed is that Des sees the contestants as incidental rather than as the stars they really are. I have noticed that, on the rare occasions he asks the contestant about something on their card, he sometimes uses this as an intro to a story about himself. I think it's a shame because there are some interesting contestants and it would be nice to know more about them.
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The director isn't responsible for content, he's responsible for the visuals, but lets blame him anyway.It could be that the director has edited all the chat out, in which case apologies to Des, and instead the flak goes to the director.
As for your other comments, we'll talk about them later.
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Actually, I've observed the things that are happening close to the opening of the show, and I don't really see that.
It's mainly because Carol Vorderman engages in this conversation, and it would be rude for Des O'Connor not to talk to Carol.
After all, when it was announced that Des O'Connor would replace Des Lynam on Countdown, all the news articles that stated this said that Carol was looking forward to working with Des.
I'm sorry, I meant to say that I do not understand it because of their chemistry.
It's mainly because Carol Vorderman engages in this conversation, and it would be rude for Des O'Connor not to talk to Carol.
After all, when it was announced that Des O'Connor would replace Des Lynam on Countdown, all the news articles that stated this said that Carol was looking forward to working with Des.
I'm sorry, I meant to say that I do not understand it because of their chemistry.
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Damian E wrote:As for your other comments, we'll talk about them later.
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I agree with this, and the OP.Karen Pearson wrote:I have to agree. The impression conveyed is that Des sees the contestants as incidental rather than as the stars they really are. I have noticed that, on the rare occasions he asks the contestant about something on their card, he sometimes uses this as an intro to a story about himself. I think it's a shame because there are some interesting contestants and it would be nice to know more about them.
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What about Des and Carol's chemistry?
Because of this, I don't see how it all comes into play.
Because of this, I don't see how it all comes into play.
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I know on Des chiffres et des lettres (in French) the show is about an hour long with 14 rounds, and the first 15 minutes they just spend talking. I remember one guy was a retired primary school teacher and then it turned out that the two contestants had played each other in a tournament and they already knew each other. Basically I think it's a really good idea, and I always like it when someone with a bit of character goes on the show (like Chris Wills) and sometimes I think the staff ignore what is potentially a good selling point of the show. Look at Deal or No Deal that comes directly afterwards. Basically the whole show is based round one person.
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Is the phrase "they deserve each other" a purely British idiom, or is it understood over there too?Jason Larsen wrote:What about Des and Carol's chemistry?
Anyway... they deserve each other.
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You must understand French.
But, if Des O'Connor and Carol Vorderman have a conversation, I just don't see how Des can be slightly withdrawn sometimes (when he's talking about a challenger's interests, for example.)
But, if Des O'Connor and Carol Vorderman have a conversation, I just don't see how Des can be slightly withdrawn sometimes (when he's talking about a challenger's interests, for example.)
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Oh, sorry.
Here, it makes a lot of sense to say, "You deserve a certain thing," but as for the statement, "You deserve a person," that makes no sense at all.
Here, it makes a lot of sense to say, "You deserve a certain thing," but as for the statement, "You deserve a person," that makes no sense at all.
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I'm pretty sure I've seen it on several US shows, so it must exist there. Jason, when an outside observer says two people deserve each other, it usually means the two people are bad (or at least in the eyes of the observer), and deserve whatever grief they may cause each other. And in this case Jennifer thinks Carol and Des "deserve each other". Does that clear things up?Jason Larsen wrote:Oh, sorry.
Here, it makes a lot of sense to say, "You deserve a certain thing," but as for the statement, "You deserve a person," that makes no sense at all.
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There are not too many shows in America on like Newlyweds now, Dinos.
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I decided long ago that this happened because Des isn't a good off-the-cuff conversationalist.
He gets tongue-tied and says the most banal things.
The "chats" with the personalities scream out that they are rehearsed, because they tend to consist of: "Didn''t you once...." and the personality then launches into it.
He gets tongue-tied and says the most banal things.
The "chats" with the personalities scream out that they are rehearsed, because they tend to consist of: "Didn''t you once...." and the personality then launches into it.
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This was always his interview style. Somehow he made a career as a chatshow host out of it.harry wrote:The "chats" with the personalities scream out that they are rehearsed, because they tend to consist of: "Didn''t you once...." and the personality then launches into it.
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Des has just redeemed himself. In yesterday's programme (18 March) he chatted well to both players. Keep it up!
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I like Des also.