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Countdown Classic Episodes

Post by James Robinson » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:49 pm

In case you haven't seen, Challenge have just announced that they'll be showing classic episodes of Countdown for the first time next month.

They say they have 60 episodes from 1991-2, so that's around the Series 21-24 area. https://www.facebook.com/ChallengeTV/ph ... 90/?type=1

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Post by Johnny Canuck » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:26 pm

Are there any "recap gaps"* that might be able to be filled in by these transmissions?

*also a valid conundrum scramble
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Post by James Robinson » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:04 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote:Are there any "recap gaps"* that might be able to be filled in by these transmissions?

*also a valid conundrum scramble
Just a tiny bit of stuff needed on Episodes 1176 & 1177.

It would be much better if we had stuff from Series 1, 2 & 7. 8-)
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Post by Gavin Chipper » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:04 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote:Are there any "recap gaps"* that might be able to be filled in by these transmissions?

*also a valid conundrum scramble
There's likely to be interesting stuff in games that got missed out of the historical recaps, so it will always be worth comparing the game against the recap.

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Post by Graeme Cole » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:53 pm

This is pretty cool. I don't think old episodes of Countdown have ever been repeated before, except for rare one-offs like the very first episode, and a handful of episodes in place of rained-off cricket over a decade ago.

If they're saying "60 episodes from 1991/92" my guess is that they're going to show Series 23. It would make sense for them to show an entire series rather than 60 randomly selected episodes from those two years. Series 23 was 65 episodes long though, so maybe 60 is approximate, or they've had to leave out five episodes for some reason.

If this hunch is correct, then we might see Glen Webb's original run.

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Post by Jack Worsley » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:17 am

Graeme, are there any contestants from that era who have also appeared in recent years (or have a namesake who has)? If so, it may be worth checking to see if they are the same person, as I don't think the wiki is entirely accurate in that respect. I'll probably remember the appearances of most 2011-14 contestants, while Robbo will have a good idea too.

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Post by Graeme Cole » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:16 am

Jack Worsley wrote:Graeme, are there any contestants from that era who have also appeared in recent years (or have a namesake who has)? If so, it may be worth checking to see if they are the same person, as I don't think the wiki is entirely accurate in that respect. I'll probably remember the appearances of most 2011-14 contestants, while Robbo will have a good idea too.
If we look at contestants who appeared in 1991-92 with the same name as contestants who appeared in 2010 onwards, there are some that we already know are the same person, according to the wiki: Eileen Taylor, Eric Emslie, Glen Webb, Gweni Sorokin, John Taylor, Peter Etherington, Simon Gillam and Terry Stapleton. In some of these cases we already know they were returning contestants, but I'm not sure how we know in the case of, say, John Taylor.

Barry Grossman, David Webb and Jackie McLeod all appeared in 1991-92 and then in the 30th Birthday Championship.

Contestants who appeared in 1991-92 with the same name as contestants from 2010 onwards who the wiki does not say are the same person (and hence have different player IDs in the database so are treated as separate people) are Bill Donaldson, David Smith (two of these since 2010) and Peter Wilson. In the case of unusual names like Gweni Sorokin we might decide "yeah, this is probably the same person" in the absence of any other information, but we can't really do the same with these very common names, which is why I'm wondering whether someone had extra knowledge about John Taylor to decide he was a repeat contestant.

An obvious limitation of this sort of analysis is that a contestant could have changed their name since their first appearance, for marriage or other reasons, in which case we might never realise they've appeared before. There are almost certainly unknown cases of this on the wiki, where the same person is recorded as two differently-named players, but there's not much we can do about it except correct it as and when someone in the know points it out.

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Post by Edward Byrne » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:39 pm

Im so exited about this, it's getting late now, I hope I am not dreaming

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Post by Mark Deeks » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:34 am

Graeme Cole wrote:
Jack Worsley wrote:Graeme, are there any contestants from that era who have also appeared in recent years (or have a namesake who has)? If so, it may be worth checking to see if they are the same person, as I don't think the wiki is entirely accurate in that respect. I'll probably remember the appearances of most 2011-14 contestants, while Robbo will have a good idea too.
If we look at contestants who appeared in 1991-92 with the same name as contestants who appeared in 2010 onwards, there are some that we already know are the same person, according to the wiki: Eileen Taylor, Eric Emslie, Glen Webb, Gweni Sorokin, John Taylor, Peter Etherington, Simon Gillam and Terry Stapleton. In some of these cases we already know they were returning contestants, but I'm not sure how we know in the case of, say, John Taylor.

Barry Grossman, David Webb and Jackie McLeod all appeared in 1991-92 and then in the 30th Birthday Championship.

Contestants who appeared in 1991-92 with the same name as contestants from 2010 onwards who the wiki does not say are the same person (and hence have different player IDs in the database so are treated as separate people) are Bill Donaldson, David Smith (two of these since 2010) and Peter Wilson. In the case of unusual names like Gweni Sorokin we might decide "yeah, this is probably the same person" in the absence of any other information, but we can't really do the same with these very common names, which is why I'm wondering whether someone had extra knowledge about John Taylor to decide he was a repeat contestant.

An obvious limitation of this sort of analysis is that a contestant could have changed their name since their first appearance, for marriage or other reasons, in which case we might never realise they've appeared before. There are almost certainly unknown cases of this on the wiki, where the same person is recorded as two differently-named players, but there's not much we can do about it except correct it as and when someone in the know points it out.
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Post by James Robinson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:51 pm

Has now been confirmed that "Classic Countdown" will be commence airing on Challenge on Monday 14 September at 7pm.

2 episodes a day will be shown, with them being repeated at noon the following day. ;) :) :D
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Post by Gavin Chipper » Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:47 am

Are they on consecutively?

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Post by James Robinson » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:41 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:Are they on consecutively?
Yes, 7-8pm is the Countdown Zone!!

Still don't know where they're exactly starting from yet, but my guess is somewhere in Series 22....
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Post by Nick Deller » Tue Sep 08, 2015 4:58 pm

The trailer shows Richard Stilgoe holding up a card with a jocular 9 letter nonword, which fits perfectly with the details we know about July 3rd 1991 (Season 22 Ep 3).

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Post by Tracey Anne Mills » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:59 pm

Looking forward to seeing these classic episodes :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :geek: :geek: :geek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: :ugeek: 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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Post by James Robinson » Wed Sep 09, 2015 9:48 pm

Nick Deller wrote:The trailer shows Richard Stilgoe holding up a card with a jocular 9 letter nonword, which fits perfectly with the details we know about July 3rd 1991 (Season 22 Ep 3).
Yeah, based on the fact that they also said they had about 60-odd episodes, and Series 22 is 65 episodes long, it suggests to me that it's just that whole series that Challenge has..... :roll: :roll:
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Post by Philip Wilson » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:50 am

There's a "Countdown 2 days to go" teaser on screen on challenge today. :P

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Post by James Robinson » Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:58 am

Philip Wilson wrote:There's a "Countdown 2 days to go" teaser on screen on challenge today. :P
There was a "Countdown 3 days to go" teaser on screen on Challenge yesterday. :P
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Post by Philip Wilson » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:09 am

James Robinson wrote:
Philip Wilson wrote:There's a "Countdown 2 days to go" teaser on screen on challenge today. :P
There was a "Countdown 3 days to go" teaser on screen on Challenge yesterday. :P
Ha ha :D I have a pretty good idea what it will say tomorrow then!

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Post by Philip Wilson » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:29 pm

Are we having spoilers and recaps for these matches?

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:19 pm

Philip Wilson wrote:Are we having spoilers and recaps for these matches?
We certainly should do - at least with spoilers. Spoiler threads can be started by anyone but with the recaps we could just post extra details in the existing historic recaps if we pick anything up.

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Post by James Robinson » Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:55 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:
Philip Wilson wrote:Are we having spoilers and recaps for these matches?
We certainly should do - at least with spoilers. Spoiler threads can be started by anyone but with the recaps we could just post extra details in the existing historic recaps if we pick anything up.
We already have the recaps, or have you forgotten about the work that I mostly did to recap them a few years ago... :P

Or in other words, go to the Historical Recaps section... :idea:
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Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:22 pm

James Robinson wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Philip Wilson wrote:Are we having spoilers and recaps for these matches?
We certainly should do - at least with spoilers. Spoiler threads can be started by anyone but with the recaps we could just post extra details in the existing historic recaps if we pick anything up.
We already have the recaps, or have you forgotten about the work that I mostly did to recap them a few years ago... :P

Or in other words, go to the Historical Recaps section... :idea:
Yeah, that's what I said.

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Post by Philip Wilson » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:00 am

Gavin Chipper wrote:
James Robinson wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote: We certainly should do - at least with spoilers. Spoiler threads can be started by anyone but with the recaps we could just post extra details in the existing historic recaps if we pick anything up.
We already have the recaps, or have you forgotten about the work that I mostly did to recap them a few years ago... :P

Or in other words, go to the Historical Recaps section... :idea:
Yeah, that's what I said.
Sorry, didn't mean to start a fight :-)

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Post by Philip Wilson » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:08 pm

So this was the first series to use the pencam and it also saw the introduction of the second conundrum in the event of a tie instead of a rematch which happened before.
It was also legal to pick only 2 vowels at this time. The champion sat next to the host and the challenger had first pick.
Er endings to one syllable adjectives were allowed if not specified too.
Don't think any of this counts as a spoiler :-)

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Post by Rhys Benjamin » Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:52 pm

Philip Wilson wrote: Er endings to one syllable adjectives were allowed if not specified too.
Isn't this still the case?
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Rhys Benjamin wrote:
Philip Wilson wrote: Er endings to one syllable adjectives were allowed if not specified too.
Isn't this still the case?
Yep sorry, I made it sound like it was different to now. I just mentioned it because I didn't think it was always the case but it was then. Or has it always been the case?

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:24 pm

What happened to today's episodes?

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Post by James Robinson » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:46 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:What happened to today's episodes?
Did you not see they moved it to 4pm now :?:
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James Robinson wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:What happened to today's episodes?
Did you not see they moved it to 4pm now :?:
Where was I supposed to see that? Radio Times says 7 and they didn't mention immediately before or after last week's shows that they were changing times for this week. I don't check the Challenge website every day to make sure they aren't going to arbitrarily change their schedule so I'd have no reason to know. Where did you hear?

Are the repeats still on from 11am?

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Gavin Chipper wrote:
James Robinson wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:What happened to today's episodes?
Did you not see they moved it to 4pm now :?:
Where was I supposed to see that? Radio Times says 7 and they didn't mention immediately before or after last week's shows that they were changing times for this week. I don't check the Challenge website every day to make sure they aren't going to arbitrarily change their schedule so I'd have no reason to know. Where did you hear?

Are the repeats still on from 11am?
I heard on Facebook, first from Challenge's own page, then Michael Cullen mentioned it, and the adverts have now changed the time from 7pm to 4pm.

And yes, the repeats are still at 11am.
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Post by Philip Wilson » Fri Oct 09, 2015 3:15 pm

Series link works it out by itself, luckily, as I've got behind being away. I noticed my box recording something at 4 o/c on Monday, which was how I found out they'd changed it.

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Post by James Robinson » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:47 pm

It's just been mentioned on Facebook that the last 5 episodes of this series have now been found, and they're being shown from Friday at 7:30am. 8-)
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Post by James Robinson » Fri May 05, 2017 10:19 pm

Just finding old episodes on YouTube is fun...

Just came across this episode which was shown a month before my very first show, which was also the debut of Alison Heard in DC, plus featured a future murder suspect in the audience... :P

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Post by James Robinson » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:26 am

Another classic Countdown episode here.

This is from January 2001 in Series 44, and the introduction piece from Richard gave an interesting insight on what was about to happen in the near future... ;) :) :D
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