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Apparently there is to be a 5th series of Who Dares Wins. Normally, 12 Yard post the application form on their website but they haven't done that this time. I've emailed them twice for an application form but haven't had a reply. Has any, by chance, got an application form for the new series that they could email to me please.

Many thanks.

I got my form from the BBC Be On A Show website, Karen.

Normally the easiest thing to do nowadays. Much better than waiting ages for 12 Yard to send it over.

But if that doesn't work, I'll be more than glad to send you over a copy later.

There's only an email address on the BBC Be On A Show page now (unless I am missing something!). I've emailed twice but not had a reply.

But please do email me a copy James. Maybe they have blacklisted me because I've applied so many times before!

I'm guessing it's not series 5 any more, but I don't think this warrants a new thread.

There was an interesting (by which I mean 'interesting') thing on last night's Who Dares Wins (that's your spoiler warning, folks), where the round was types of pasta, and the contestants who ended up going for it thought of tagliatelle. Except the woman who gave their answer totally said "tag-a-telly", which was of course allowed. Makes you wonder where they draw the line on stuff like that, 'cos if I'd been the other contestants I'd've totally queried it (I'd look like a dick, sure, but there's shedloads of money at stake). I am just being a fascist?

Michael Wallace wrote:I am just being a fascist?

No, just aiming for fairness, so, in fact, you're probably being a socialist.

Rhys Benjamin wrote:

Michael Wallace wrote:I am just being a fascist?

No, just aiming for fairness, so, in fact, you're probably being a socialist.

At the risk of sparking another "political discussion", does this mean that as an opponent of socialism, you are also an opponent of fairness?

JimBentley wrote:

Rhys Benjamin wrote:

Michael Wallace wrote:I am just being a fascist?

No, just aiming for fairness, so, in fact, you're probably being a socialist.

At the risk of sparking another "political discussion", does this mean that as an opponent of socialism, you are also an opponent of fairness?

No, just an opponent of the case above, where he was aiming for extreme fairness. Fairness is good, but it does not have to be too strict as was the case above.

Rhys Benjamin wrote:Fairness is good, but it does not have to be too strict as was the case above.

What if she'd said ragliatelli? Tagloatelli? Tag-telli? Obviously it's a question of where one draws the line, but I think when you start missing out syllables you've gone that far.

Tricky one. What if it had been your question and you'd said tag-lee-a-telly (five syllables) and they'd queried it and said, 'That's wrong, it's pronounced tal-ya-telly' (four syllables, and more nearly correct)? I take your point that it's all about where you draw the line, but I think each case is so different that it can only be adjudicated on its own merits at the time.

Phil Reynolds wrote:Tricky one. What if it had been your question and you'd said tag-lee-a-telly (five syllables) and they'd queried it and said, 'That's wrong, it's pronounced tal-ya-telly' (four syllables, and more nearly correct)? I take your point that it's all about where you draw the line, but I think each case is so different that it can only be adjudicated on its own merits at the time.

Yeah, fair point. It's always tricky with foreign words (or even just hard-to-pronounce English ones). I suppose it's a fair way from paranaimbo/paramaribo-gate.

On a related issue, there were something like 360 correct answers to that question, I wonder what would have happened if a pair had said "ok, 100" - running the list would take so long they'd have to edit it down somehow to fit into the show (it's not live, right?). I wondered a similar thing when last series they were asked for elements, which I think rather a lot of people (particularly going on a show like that) could easily sail through the best part of 100 for. Makes me wonder if they have any provision for that or they just rely on it never happening. (Or maybe there really is so much 'dramatic padding' that they could get away with it.)

Michael Wallace wrote:

Phil Reynolds wrote:Tricky one. What if it had been your question and you'd said tag-lee-a-telly (five syllables) and they'd queried it and said, 'That's wrong, it's pronounced tal-ya-telly' (four syllables, and more nearly correct)? I take your point that it's all about where you draw the line, but I think each case is so different that it can only be adjudicated on its own merits at the time.

Yeah, fair point. It's always tricky with foreign words (or even just hard-to-pronounce English ones). I suppose it's a fair way from paranaimbo/paramaribo-gate.

On a related issue, there were something like 360 correct answers to that question, I wonder what would have happened if a pair had said "ok, 100" - running the list would take so long they'd have to edit it down somehow to fit into the show (it's not live, right?). I wondered a similar thing when last series they were asked for elements, which I think rather a lot of people (particularly going on a show like that) could easily sail through the best part of 100 for. Makes me wonder if they have any provision for that or they just rely on it never happening. (Or maybe there really is so much 'dramatic padding' that they could get away with it.)

The elementary one was 40 according to Wikipedia. I don't really see one that goes beyond that, maybe perhaps "Countries that have competed in the Eurovision Song Contest" (at least 50, I can think of).

Rhys Benjamin wrote:The elementary one was 40 according to Wikipedia. I don't really see one that goes beyond that, maybe perhaps "Countries that have competed in the Eurovision Song Contest" (at least 50, I can think of).

Yeah, but my point is that it's pretty conceivable that someone could have done over 100 on the chemical elements one, which would have taken an impractically long time.

So to continue the pronunciation debate. The team last night got away with Christine Ohuruogu pronounced "a-goo-ra-hoo" (as well as "og-hoo-ra-hoo"). Admittedly I don't Bob Hunkmouse, or is it actually pronounced like that?

Michael Wallace wrote:So to continue the pronunciation debate. The team last night got away with Christine Ohuruogu pronounced "a-goo-ra-hoo" (as well as "og-hoo-ra-hoo"). Admittedly I don't Bob Hunkmouse, or is it actually pronounced like that?

I've heard her variously pronounced as "og-a-roo-hoo", "o-huh-roo-goo" and "ah-woo-goo" as well as the above ones, so while it's probably true that there is a correct pronounciation, it's probably also true that nobody knows what it is.

Yea I think "o-huh-roo-goo" is the most popular one. Still most pairs would have killed to have gotten that question - Olympic gold medallists (track athletics) since 1980.

Hi, I received an email from an audience wrangler which might interest those of you who enjoy going on other game shows:


TAKE PART IN IN IT TO WIN IT & WHO DARES WINS

12 Yard Productions are looking for lively, intelligent and competitive contestants for their forthcoming National Lottery quiz shows.

Would you like the chance to win BIG money?

We are holding nationwide auditions NOW!

So, contact us TODAY for an application form:

For "In It To Win It" email: inittowinit@12yard.com

For "Who Dares Wins" email: whodareswins@12yard.com

or call: 0800 032 0150.

There is no charge for requesting an application form via e-mail, although internet service provider fees may apply.

Calls are free from most landlines. Some networks and Mobile operators will charge for these calls. Lines close at midnight on 27th September 2012 for Who Dares Wins and 8th November 2012 for In It To Win It.
The closing date for returning application forms for Who Dares Wins is 3rd October 2012 and for In It To Win It is 15th November 2012.
Applications received after this date may not be considered.
Applications are subject to the terms and conditions stated in the application form.
All applicants must be aged 18 years and over and be legally resident and currently living in the UK, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man.