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David O'Donnell wrote:Two nice clues from Wednesday's Guardian:

1. (One for Michael Wallace as I think he typed earlier he likes Spooners) Cod etc show desire for conflict, says Spooner (9);
2. Evidence of virus disputed in report (7).
The answers to these were WHITEFISH as Spooner would say FIGHTWISH^ and the second (which I didn't get) was ATISHOO.
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Thought I'd try this one in honour of Gavin Chipper:

Is it Gavin causing an irritation? (9)
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David O'Donnell wrote:Thought I'd try this one in honour of Gavin Chipper:

Is it Gavin causing an irritation? (9)
vaginitis :D
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Withing 2 minutes of posting it's already solved - nice one, Corby. I thought that one might appeal to you.
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Jon Corby wrote:
David O'Donnell wrote:Thought I'd try this one in honour of Gavin Chipper:

Is it Gavin causing an irritation? (9)
vaginitis :D
Jon, this is your 1200th post. Nice one. :roll:
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Here's one:

Rubbish car person (3,13)
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:I was going to try and construct an actor/actress themed cryptic crossword based on a few clues I'd made so far, but this idea seems much less time-consuming on my part! That and the fact I'm a bit rubbish and would give up half way through and add it to the list of failures in my life. So here they are: I'm sure you'll get the answers easily enough.

1. Initially a fat actress yes, believe it or not! (3,6)
2. How to eat peanut butter cups (5,11)
2. Reese Witherspoon :D
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Kai Laddiman wrote:Here's one:

Rubbish car person (3,13)
Dan Vannaisingham?
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Here's one:

Rubbish car person (3,13)
Dan Vannaisingham?
Spelt his name wrong, but yeh, basically.
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Kai Laddiman wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:
Kai Laddiman wrote:Here's one:

Rubbish car person (3,13)
Dan Vannaisingham?
Spelt his name wrong, but yeh, basically.
Can you explain how that works (or is it another clique joke)?
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Phil Reynolds wrote:Can you explain how that works (or is it another clique joke)?
OK. The ugly truth is, someone among us has a Micra. :o :o :o :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Oh!

I saw this thread in Active Topics, read the first post, thought oooh, that sounds like fun, went away and wrote a load of crossword clues, then came back and finally noticed the date...

Ah well. I've written some crossword clues, for whoever wants to play:

1. Dan cracks sum too (3, 3)
2. Live with reason for this reason (7)
3. High class magazine article on boy, unknown (3, 4)
4. Nothings, they whisper sweet nothings (5)
5. These will make mother-in-law several tonnes light (4, 4)
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:1. Initially a fat actress yes, believe it or not! (3,6)
1. Fay Ripley.
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Clare Sudbery wrote:Oh!

I saw this thread in Active Topics, read the first post, thought oooh, that sounds like fun, went away and wrote a load of crossword clues, then came back and finally noticed the date...

Ah well. I've written some crossword clues, for whoever wants to play:

1. Dan cracks sum too (3, 3)
2. Live with reason for this reason (7)
3. High class magazine article on boy, unknown (3, 4)
4. Nothings, they whisper sweet nothings (5)
5. These will make mother-in-law several tonnes light (4, 4)
Aw, #4 has such a nice imagery and answer. LOVES
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Gary Male wrote:Aw, #4 has such a nice imagery and answer. LOVES
Yeah, I liked that one. :)

Maybe I should say, there's a connection between all the answers. I came up with number 2 first, and then had the idea to add the rest.
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Oh, I see! Very nice. I'm really not the right person to give the rest of the answers. We probably need a mystery man surruptitiously delivering them.
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LOL! You're right. We do.
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Clare Sudbery wrote:1. Dan cracks sum too (3, 3)
2. Live with reason for this reason (7)
3. High class magazine article on boy, unknown (3, 4)
4. Nothings, they whisper sweet nothings (5)
5. These will make mother-in-law several tonnes light (4, 4)
1. AND ALL
2. BECAUSE
3. THE LADY
4. LOVES
5. MILK TRAY

Hate to be picky but unknown = Y in #3 is a bit unfair; there's nothing to indicate a homophone (or are you suggesting we should be thinking of y as a symbol for an unknown quantity, like x)? And in #5, MIL isn't a recognised abbreviation for mother-in-law as far as I'm aware - it needs a signifier like 'initially'.
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Phil Reynolds wrote:
Clare Sudbery wrote:1. Dan cracks sum too (3, 3)
2. Live with reason for this reason (7)
3. High class magazine article on boy, unknown (3, 4)
4. Nothings, they whisper sweet nothings (5)
5. These will make mother-in-law several tonnes light (4, 4)
1. AND ALL
2. BECAUSE
3. THE LADY
4. LOVES
5. MILK TRAY

Hate to be picky but unknown = Y in #3 is a bit unfair; there's nothing to indicate a homophone (or are you suggesting we should be thinking of y as a symbol for an unknown quantity, like x)? And in #5, MIL isn't a recognised abbreviation for mother-in-law as far as I'm aware - it needs a signifier like 'initially'.
Nothing wrong with using "unknown = Y" as in an unknown quantity at all. The indication of MIL is a bit naughty though. I'd be tempted into a " almost yummy mummy" reference, getting at almost MILF. It might not be standard yet, but Corby would approve at least.
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Phil Reynolds wrote:(or are you suggesting we should be thinking of y as a symbol for an unknown quantity, like x)?
Yes. This. Perfectly acceptable. Often seen in Graun crosswords.
Phil Reynolds wrote:And in #5, MIL isn't a recognised abbreviation for mother-in-law as far as I'm aware - it needs a signifier like 'initially'.
Interesting. Mil, bil, fil, sil etc are all used frequently on internet forums and blogs as shorthand for the various inlaws (with no capitalisation or other initial signifiers). Guess they just haven't found their way into crossword parlance yet!
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:
dinos_the_chemist wrote:I was going to try and construct an actor/actress themed cryptic crossword based on a few clues I'd made so far, but this idea seems much less time-consuming on my part! That and the fact I'm a bit rubbish and would give up half way through and add it to the list of failures in my life. So here they are: I'm sure you'll get the answers easily enough.

1. Initially a fat actress yes, believe it or not! (3,6)
2. How to eat peanut butter cups (5,9)
Oops should have been (5,11) for no 2. I'll fix that.
ZOMG! you posted this on my 12th birthday- legend!
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Eoin Monaghan wrote:
Dinos Sfyris wrote:
dinos_the_chemist wrote:I was going to try and construct an actor/actress themed cryptic crossword based on a few clues I'd made so far, but this idea seems much less time-consuming on my part! That and the fact I'm a bit rubbish and would give up half way through and add it to the list of failures in my life. So here they are: I'm sure you'll get the answers easily enough.

1. Initially a fat actress yes, believe it or not! (3,6)
2. How to eat peanut butter cups (5,9)
Oops should have been (5,11) for no 2. I'll fix that.
ZOMG! you posted this on my 12th birthday- legend!
I'm sure plenty of posts were made on your birthday. Why's this one so legendary? (its author withstanding)

Cheers for bumping this though. I think we're due a bit more crypticness.
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Clue - 16 Down. (5,3,10)
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Bump!

I crafted this clue which Howard has helped me perfect from the luxury of his Austrian mountaineering getaway.

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Dinos Sfyris wrote:Bump!

I crafted this clue which Howard has helped me perfect from the luxury of his Austrian mountaineering getaway.

Slipped cock inside pussy. Cheese formed (9)
CAMEMBERT! Fucking brilliant!
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CAMEMBERT is excellent.

To resurrect this thread, here are some football teams celebrated in cryptic form. Some prior knowledge of football is required, for which I apologise. Some of the clues are a bit contrived, for which I make no apology... *grin*

Championship side is yellow or red if and only if it has a cathedral (7, 4)

Sicknote hides pervert? Not on the Royal Sporting Club! (10)

Seconds not in court of the saints (11)

Timeless bather confused inside boundary of Istanbul (10)

Yorkshire ladies cover rosters and changes rung by Quasimodo, say (9, 6, 6)

Kick around a new moral direction north of the border (10)

Kent International Airport surrounds pasture and takes a point playing at Luton and Wimbledon next season? (9, 4)
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Anyone manage any of these? Football's not really my forte but I'm totally stumped!

Also I stumbled across this clue the other day: Explain how part of garden was illuminated (4,5,2)
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:Also I stumbled across this clue the other day: Explain how part of garden was illuminated (4,5,2)
SHED LIGHT ON :)
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:Anyone manage any of these? Football's not really my forte but I'm totally stumped!
Surprised Corby didn't get the third one.
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I guess the third one is SOUTHAMPTON, then! The fifth one is DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES, although I have no idea how these cryptic things work, so I don't know why - I only got it from the Quasimodo thing.
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JimBentley wrote:The fifth one is DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES, although I have no idea how these cryptic things work, so I don't know why - I only got it from the Quasimodo thing.
"Changes" normally signifies an anagram, so "cover rosters and changes" becomes DONCASTER ROVERS. And "rung by Quasimodo, say" = BELLES (because when you say "bells" it's the same as "belles").
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Phil Reynolds wrote:
JimBentley wrote:The fifth one is DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES, although I have no idea how these cryptic things work, so I don't know why - I only got it from the Quasimodo thing.
"Changes" normally signifies an anagram, so "cover rosters and changes" becomes DONCASTER ROVERS. And "rung by Quasimodo, say" = BELLES (because when you say "bells" it's the same as "belles").
Cheers, Phil! Can you explain the first one - the only Championship sides that fit (7,4) are Bristol City, Cardiff City, Ipswich Town and Swansea City, so I guess one of them must be right, but which one? And why?
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JimBentley wrote:Can you explain the first one - the only Championship sides that fit (7,4) are Bristol City, Cardiff City, Ipswich Town and Swansea City, so I guess one of them must be right, but which one? And why?
CARD (yellow or red in football) + IFF (if and only if in mathematical proofs) + CITY (traditionally defined as a town having a cathedral).
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Matt Bayfield wrote: Kent International Airport surrounds pasture and takes a point playing at Luton and Wimbledon next season? (9, 4)
Mansfield Town?
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Oliver Garner wrote:
Matt Bayfield wrote: Kent International Airport surrounds pasture and takes a point playing at Luton and Wimbledon next season? (9, 4)
Mansfield Town?
Blimey, well done - I'd never have got that. Having read your answer, I had to Google Kent International Airport to work out what the clue meant.
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All the football club answers so far are correct. Well done to the peeps who've worked their way inside my twisted and slightly contrived imagination.

Seconds not in court of the saints = SOUTHAMPTON
"seconds" = S, "not in" = OUT, "court" gives HAMPTON, as in Hampton Court. Southampton FC are nicknamed the Saints.

CARDIFF CITY and DONCASTER ROVERS BELLES are correct for the reasons Phil explained.

Kent International Airport surrounds pasture and takes a point playing at Luton and Wimbledon next season? = MANSFIELD TOWN
Kent International Airport is also known as MANSTON airport, "pasture" = FIELD, so if the former surrounds the latter you get MANSFIELDTON. Then "takes a point" is supposed to imply that you lob a compass point, in this case W, into the string, giving Mansfield Town, who are playing in the Blue Square Premier at Luton and AFC Wimbledon this season.

Incidentally, I set these clues just over a year ago when Mansfield has just been relegated, so the "playing at Blue Square Premier clubs" bit was more pertinent. Obviously I used different clubs in the clue a year ago, as Luton Town and AFC Wimbledon are new to the BSP this year.


Of the three clues still to be solved, none of the clubs are English:

Sicknote hides pervert? Not on the Royal Sporting Club! (10)

Timeless bather confused inside boundary of Istanbul (10)

Kick around a new moral direction north of the border (10)


Edit: and for anyone who really wants to test their knowledge of English non-league football, here's another clue which I've just dreamed up. Hint: this club has been a football league club in the past.

Confused poet crossing on green by a location for non-league football (8, 4, 6)
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Matt Bayfield wrote: Kent International Airport surrounds pasture and takes a point playing at Luton and Wimbledon next season? = MANSFIELD TOWN
Kent International Airport is also known as MANSTON airport, "pasture" = FIELD, so if the former surrounds the latter you get MANSFIELDTON. Then "takes a point" is supposed to imply that you lob a compass point, in this case W, into the string, giving Mansfield Town, who are playing in the Blue Square Premier at Luton and AFC Wimbledon this season.

Incidentally, I set these clues just over a year ago when Mansfield has just been relegated, so the "playing at Blue Square Premier clubs" bit was more pertinent. Obviously I used different clubs in the clue a year ago, as Luton Town and AFC Wimbledon are new to the BSP this year.
Knew that being an AFC Wimbledon fan would help me in something.
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Matt Bayfield wrote:Kick around a new moral direction north of the border (10)
This one is obviously KILMARNOCK (KICK around an anagram of N + MORAL), but I'm not sure whether the N is meant to be signified by "new" (with presumably "direction" to signify the anagram? Not come across that one before) or "direction north" (but that would leave "of the border" at the end, which doesn't make sense by itself). Also, the spurious "a" in the clue before "new moral direction" confuses things further.
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Ah, a fellow non-league follower - good on yer Oliver.

I'm an Ebbsfleet fan, btw - not one of the myfc.co.uk lot, but back from when the club used to play as Gravesend & Northfleet in the Ryman League. Mind you, now we don't have a pot to piss in (in the financial sense), two more seasons and we'll probably be back in the Ryman League...

On the subject of non-league football, I've edited a new cryptic clue, to another non-league club, into my previous post (two posts up).


Phil is correct with KILMARNOCK. As he says, it's not the slickest wording ever, but my intention at the time was probably that "direction" signified the compass point "N" and "new" signalled the anagram of "MORAL + N", thus leaving "north of the border" as the clue to the location of the club. I should have left out the indefinite article "a" from the clue.
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Ebb (4)
Electrical centre of Ireland (7)
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Kieran Child wrote:Ebb (4)
We've had this one before. Ebb = Flow back = Wolf :)
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Dinos Sfyris wrote:
Kieran Child wrote:Ebb (4)
We've had this one before. Ebb = Flow back = Wolf :)
Ah, I was wondering if this was going to turn out to be a legitimate clue or not. Shame, can't say I'm surprised though.
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Ouch. Does that mean the other one is also not a proper clue?
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the second one is a proper clue in that it has an answer?
The first one I nicked from a mate, the second one I made up for a cryptic science crossword for school.
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If we're on the subject of non-League clubs then I'm afraid I'll have to chip in with a chant of 'GREEN ARMY!' as I'm a Hendon fan. On a slightly related tangent, did you ever used to go to Wimbledon speedway Oliver?
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Jeffrey Burgin wrote:If we're on the subject of non-League clubs then I'm afraid I'll have to chip in with a chant of 'GREEN ARMY!' as I'm a Hendon fan. On a slightly related tangent, did you ever used to go to Wimbledon speedway Oliver?
One word, no. Although I have seen AFC play Hendon once on New Years' Day. We won 3-2.
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Oliver Garner wrote: One word, no. Although I have seen AFC play Hendon once on New Years' Day. We won 3-2.
Ah, you don't know what you missed out on. Out of interest do you know of an AFC forward called Chad Gould? I only ask because he plays for the Filipino national team and I met him the other week at a meeting for Filipino footballers. If you can stretch your mind ever further back there's a Filipino defender called Rob Gier, who I also met, who played for Wimbledon FC back in the old League 1 days aorund 2000.
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Jeffrey Burgin wrote:
Oliver Garner wrote: One word, no. Although I have seen AFC play Hendon once on New Years' Day. We won 3-2.
Ah, you don't know what you missed out on. Out of interest do you know of an AFC forward called Chad Gould? I only ask because he plays for the Filipino national team and I met him the other week at a meeting for Filipino footballers. If you can stretch your mind ever further back there's a Filipino defender called Rob Gier, who I also met, who played for Wimbledon FC back in the old League 1 days aorund 2000.
He might be in our squad, but he never plays for the first team.
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Kieran Child wrote:the second one is a proper clue in that it has an answer?
The first one I nicked from a mate, the second one I made up for a cryptic science crossword for school.
I suspect what Phil is referring to by 'proper clue' is the fact Ebb (4) doesn't really qualify - it's neat, but it doesn't have a definition part - it's neat, sure, but when you tackle a cryptic crossword it's under the assumption that the clues will follow The Rules (which obviously aren't especially well-defined). This does have the rather unfortunate consequence that you can't have especially neat things (I saw HIJKLMNO (5) somewhere) unless there's some additional indication (for instance, sometimes you'll get particularly hard crosswords where the setter will, say, asterisk clues that lack definitions, or worse still leave it up to the solver to find them - but they'll still warn you that some clues lack definitions).

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Cheers Michael. That was a good explanation, but also EURGH. Why on earth would you want to start turning things as beautiful as crossword clues into a rigid set of rules that must be followed before something is considered 'proper'. That's sickening.

Yes, the other clue has a descriptive part and a cryptic part. But this does not make it any more valid than the other one.
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Re: Collaborative crossword writing

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David O'Donnell wrote:Good to see this thread, here are a few more of questionable amusement.

1. Guy has got one in to cock-sucking (8)
2. Exact cost for Jeffrey's shit book (and what he should have paid the prostitute, perhaps?) (3,1,5,4,3,1,5,4)
3. Not for the faint-hearted? (4,7 [or 4,6 probably works too])
4. Ejaculated and left to note exposed genitalia (5,3)
5. Make sure friend wins the game (9)

Sorry if some of these are saucy ... oh wait ... I am not!
Without looking further down the thread, 1. is FELLATIO

2. Is of course "Not a penny more, not a penny less."
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Since I think interest has died down, it's hopefully safe to give the remaining solutions to the football clubs which I set:

Sicknote hides pervert? Not on the Royal Sporting Club! (10) = ANDERLECHT.

Sicknote is the nickname of Darren ANDERTON, "not on" implies -ON, giving ANDERT, and if you stick LECH (pervert) into the middle, you get ANDERLECHT, whose full name is something like Royal Sporting Club Anderlecht.

Timeless bather confused inside boundary of Istanbul (10) = FENERBAHCE.

Boundary = FENCE, timeless indicates you remove the "t" from BATHER, and confused indicates an anagram of the remaining 5 letters, giving ERBAH. Stick that inside FENCE and you get FENERBAHCE, who are based in Istanbul.

Confused poet crossing on green by a location for non-league football (8, 4, 6) = BRADFORD PARK AVENUE

Poet = BARD, confused implies an anagram, giving BRAD. A crossing (of water) is a FORD, green = PARK, a location = A VENUE. Hence Bradford Park Avenue, a former league club now plying their trade somewhere in the non-league pyramid (can't remember exactly where).


All a bit contrived, but hey.
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Re: Collaborative crossword writing

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Ah yes, forgotten about this.

Electrical centre of Ireland = Voltage.
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Kieran Child wrote:Electrical centre of Ireland = Voltage.
Ah, I was looking for an electrical term, but didn't think of that one. Is "voltage" the answer because V = IR?
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Re: Collaborative crossword writing

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Centre of 'eire' is IR = voltage.

If my memory serves me correctly, an ickle year 9 solved that first :P
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I'd call two steps removed on that, but neat anyway.
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One I made up:

Real run (5)
16/10/2007 - Episode 4460
Dinos Sfyris 76 - 78 Dorian Lidell
Proof that even idiots can get well and truly mainwheeled.
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Kai Laddiman wrote:One I made up:

Real run (5)
This has to be deceptively simple but I cannot get it. What is it, Kal?
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Nick Boldock wrote:
David O'Donnell wrote:Good to see this thread, here are a few more of questionable amusement.

1. Guy has got one in to cock-sucking (8)
2. Exact cost for Jeffrey's shit book (and what he should have paid the prostitute, perhaps?) (3,1,5,4,3,1,5,4)
3. Not for the faint-hearted? (4,7 [or 4,6 probably works too])
4. Ejaculated and left to note exposed genitalia (5,3)
5. Make sure friend wins the game (9)

Sorry if some of these are saucy ... oh wait ... I am not!
Without looking further down the thread, 1. is FELLATIO

2. Is of course "Not a penny more, not a penny less."
I think I posted these answers - all the chess players got 5. CHECKMATE

I don't like 3. (FAIR MAIDENS/FAIR LADIES) now, I think I was influenced by Michael McD-C clue Ill-gotten gains (8,7)

4. is CAMEL TOE.

Here's a good one using the same format as Michael's of taking a well known phrase and discerning a cryptic meaning: No can do (6,5) - not one of mine but of Taupi who died recently.
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