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CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:51 pm
by Quinne James
We seem to have a few people playing CSW LA, and it's a high score format, so I might as well give it a go.

I'm thinking best-of-3 each round, knockout rather than round robin, standard scoring. Post in this thread if you're interested in signing up. The deadline for guaranteed entry is Thursday, April 19 at 2:00pm EST/7:00pm UK time.

I decided to go ahead and do the pairings right after the deadline, because we had a good number for brackets. Pairings are here: http://challonge.com/cswlat and first-round fixtures are on the website at http://www.apterous.org/to_tourney.php?tourney=56

Currently signed up:
Quinne James
Thomas Carey
Adam Gillard
Ian Volante
Nick Deller
Joseph Krol
Oliver Garner
Josh Hurst
David Smith
Jason Turner
Michael Cullen
Zarte Siempre

Standby:
Gerry Tynan

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:01 pm
by Thomas Carey
Really bad at letters, especially CSW, but that just means someone gets an easy first match. In.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:16 pm
by Adam Gillard
Really bad at CSW, especially letters, but that just means someone gets an easy first match. In.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:13 pm
by Ian Volante
In.

You know about getting this onto the tourney system and stuff aye?

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 pm
by Nick Deller
Theoretically really good at CSW, especially letters, but that just means someone gets an unexpected first round win. In.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:55 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Adam Gillard wrote:Really bad at CSW, especially letters, but that just means someone gets an easy first match. In.
Yeah, I might just wait for the CSW numbers tournament.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:02 pm
by Quinne James
Thanks Thomas, Adam, Ian and Nick for signing up! I'd like to start the tournament off this weekend, so I think I will be closing guaranteed entries on Thursday, April 19 at 2:00pm EST/7:00pm GMT (OP will be edited to reflect this.) I will accept non-guaranteed entries for 24 hours afterwards if it makes the pairing scheme easier. The first games (for some players at least) will probably start Friday at 5:00pm EST/10:00pm GMT.

I came up with a possibly harebrained scheme for pairing, in hopes of accommodating non-even numbers of players. Here's the idea:
  • Each player gets seeded. I would love to do this according to some objective measure (like average career maxes at CSW LA) but not everyone has superstats, so I can't always get that value. So I likely will have to just make stuff up.
  • The top 2^n-1 players get sorted into an orderly bracket.
  • Before that bracket starts playing, everyone else has to fight it out for the 2^nth spot.
For example, if the people currently signed up were seeded, it would probably go something like:
Play-in game:
#4 Ian Volante vs #5 Thomas Carey
First round
#1 Quinne James vs #4-#5 winner
#2 Nick Deller vs #3 Adam Gillard
Second round
#1-4 winner vs #2-3 winner

Of course, being subjective I could easily seed Nick first -- he does hold the record. But this illustrates the flexibility I have; I've played Adam twice before in this format, so I want to avoid that matchup in the first round. The intent of this tournament is to generate new and interesting human vs human matchups in this format, as much as it is to declare a winner.

This could get obnoxious if there are, say, 15 people in the tournament, but I think that's highly unlikely. For a small thing like this it seems fine to me, but I'd like to hear any objections now.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:12 pm
by Charlie Reams
This does overlap almost perfectly with the Gevin's Delight tournament. I don't mind either way, but thought you should be aware of the risk of fixture collisions etc.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:23 pm
by Quinne James
Ian Volante wrote:In.

You know about getting this onto the tourney system and stuff aye?
I thought I did, but then I screwed up the application. You have to apply separately for every round, right?
Charlie Reams wrote:This does overlap almost perfectly with the Gevin's Delight tournament. I don't mind either way, but thought you should be aware of the risk of fixture collisions etc.
Sigh, I have to edit my response entirely to this because I didn't realise Gevin's Delight was starting early. Yeah, OK. Hopefully it won't be such a big deal with a small field and quick matches.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:44 pm
by Joseph Krol
In.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:38 pm
by Adam Gillard
I think it should be OK in terms of clashing with the Gevin's Delight tournament, since there'll only be a handful of entrants in this one by the looks of it. Can you please explain whether it'll be a knockout or a round robin and how many games will be in each match, etc.?

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:04 pm
by Quinne James
Adam Gillard wrote:Can you please explain whether it'll be a knockout or a round robin and how many games will be in each match, etc.?
I said in the OP:
Quinne James wrote:I'm thinking best of 3 rounds, single elimination bracket
Or, equivalently: (a maximum of) 3 games per match, and knockout format.

But I'll edit the OP to be a little more clear.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:21 am
by Adam Gillard
Ah, gotcha. That was probably just me being daft.

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:58 pm
by Oliver Garner
Yes please!

Re: CSW Letters Attack tournament

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:24 am
by Quinne James
Thanks for the signups, and I appreciate everyone's patience while I sort out the Apterous tournament system.