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Post by Phil Collinge » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:48 pm

Jimmy Gough wrote:I think he trying to say they love number attacks.
I'm aware of what he's saying and I'm also aware of what he's insinuating.

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Post by JackHurst » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:49 pm

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You know. Supee.
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Post by Douglas Wilson » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:25 am

To clarify I was not implying that Supee is Phil's alter ego, I knew that she was a real person but referred to her as 'they' as I was unsure of her gender and didn't want to cause offence.

I realise that it was an inappropriate thread to ask the question and for which I apologise.

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Post by Kai Laddiman » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:24 am

Dammit, Supee is Phil's partner!
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Post by Paul Howe » Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:33 pm

I'm quite impressed at the direction this thread's taken without any input from Jason Larsen.

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Post by Jon Corby » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:40 am

Paul Howe wrote:I'm quite impressed at the direction this thread's taken without any input from Jason Larsen.
Indeed, it's taken quite a Supee twist.

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Post by Lloyd Pettet » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:58 pm

Just a query, I know I don't really post often but the player andrew clouston has been pretty dodgy... http://www.apterous.org/searchuser.php? ... sensible=1 he had registered 6 times (unless there are 6 seperate Andrew Cloustons). In junior recently he had gone from http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=71410 to http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=130618, only gets beaten by declaring invalid words or on the conundrum, he never declares a lesser valid word, and now has supplemented everything with a max duel.

Safe?

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Post by Charlie Reams » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:06 pm

Lloyd Pettet wrote:Just a query, I know I don't really post often but the player andrew clouston has been pretty dodgy... http://www.apterous.org/searchuser.php? ... sensible=1 he had registered 6 times (unless there are 6 seperate Andrew Cloustons). In junior recently he had gone from http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=71410 to http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=130618, only gets beaten by declaring invalid words or on the conundrum, he never declares a lesser valid word, and now has supplemented everything with a max duel.

Safe?
Yes, he's clearly been cheating. He's been issued a warning and will be banned if this continues. I have to admit that I've been a bit slack with monitoring the Cheatomatic lately because it seems like people had moved on from such blatant dishonesty, but I guess there's always one.

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:01 pm

Pete Das is our latest cheat. Can he please be kicked? (I have a game unfinished too so if you could remove that too --- not sure how long I have to wait until it disappears).

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Post by Marc Meakin » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:19 pm

Seems like the worlds worst cheater, seeing as he has a played 6 lost 6 record.
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Post by Gavin Chipper » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:35 pm

I think Apterous Rex cheats.

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Post by Derek Hazell » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:16 pm

Marc Meakin wrote:Seems like the worlds worst cheater, seeing as he has a played 6 lost 6 record.
See Derek's earlier post.
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Post by Simon Le Fort » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:35 pm

I see passing mention earlier in this thread to opponents stopping the game when behind.

And I see also comments how we should just leave cheats to disappear as they get no fun out of it.

It's all a bit difficult to be 100% sure on-line and given the fact that games do crash. But the norm is for both players to exit and return and continue.

My problem is that I have lost plenty of games and always stood my ground and seen it out to the bitter end even when hopelessly far behind, or even when being called away by family to do something else. Finishing the game has always been a priority. So it has especially hurt on the various occasions I have been leading and my opponent has "disappeared."

One individual has twice been trailing and the games have stayed there for a week and then vanished. I have noticed him playing others but somehow the game doesn't get proposed to continue.

Tonight I was 24-0 against a relative newcomer and he left the room and never came back.
This time I took a screenshot.

I don't agree with naming and shaming publicly, for various reasons, prominent amongst which is the fact I could be misinterpreting things. However, the chat is often a good sign of the tone of the game.

I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.

Has anyone got any advice for me?

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Post by Eoin Monaghan » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:41 pm

81-64 up vs Martin Smith after 12 rounds and he leaves. :(

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Post by JimBentley » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:47 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote:I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.

Has anyone got any advice for me?
Not a great deal you can do, Simon. I can only really suggest two courses of action:

1. Remember their names and don't play them again

or

2. Remember their names and don't play them again, then track them down by tracing their IP address and hacking into their ISP's records to get their real name and address, then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.

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Post by Charlie Reams » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:57 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote: I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.
At some point I will add some kind of "adjudication" feature. But it's worth mentioning that the majority of players who do this kind of thing have not played the 11 games necessary for an official rating, and therefore the difference that the result would have made to your rating is minimal.

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:58 pm

Personally I'd name and shame them. They can always come here and apologise, claiming they got disconnected or some tripe.

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Post by Simon Le Fort » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:01 pm

Thanks for your fast answers, all three. At least I am clearer on my options now.

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Post by Eoin Monaghan » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:17 pm

Martin Smith left after he was 81-64 down after 12 rounds against me.

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Post by Marc Meakin » Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm

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Simon Le Fort wrote:I enjoy the game but I also enjoy the ratings system and would love to climb out of the 800s. With these matches secured as victories - or running away from inevitable beatings - I'd be in the 900s.

Has anyone got any advice for me?
Not a great deal you can do, Simon. I can only really suggest two courses of action:

1. Remember their names and don't play them again

or

2. Remember their names and don't play them again, then track them down by tracing their IP address and hacking into their ISP's records to get their real name and address, then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.
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Post by Ben Hunter » Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:16 am

JimBentley wrote:then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.
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Post by Matt Morrison » Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:26 am

I bet you hypocrites would still give Thierry Henry a game if he logged on.

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Post by peter lee » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:15 pm

Adidas have got the contract from FIFA to make the new ball for the World Cup Finals.
Thierry (the Cheating P---k) Henry, said he can't wait to get his hands on it. !!

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Post by Marc Meakin » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:41 pm

Matt Morrison wrote:I bet you hypocrites would still give Thierry Henry a game if he logged on.
He might be good at Touchdown.
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Post by Philip Jarvis » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:53 am

Ben Hunter wrote:
JimBentley wrote:then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.
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Yes but make sure the house is empty first and my colleagues are made aware of this on arrival.
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Post by Philip Jarvis » Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:56 am

Eoin Monaghan wrote:Martin Smith left after he was 81-64 down after 12 rounds against me.
He recently did the same after 13 rounds against me. I can't recall how many points I was ahead, but I did shout an expletive about him in Aptochat before eventually leaving.
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Post by Kai Laddiman » Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:53 pm

Philip Jarvis wrote:
Ben Hunter wrote:
JimBentley wrote:then go round and burn their house down. FIRE CLEANSES ALL.
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Yes but make sure the house is empty first and my colleagues are made aware of this on arrival.
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Kai Laddiman wrote:Why would you need to know if Ben is peeing uncontrollably?
In case a supplementary water supply is required.
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Post by John Gillies » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:46 pm

Hi,

I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this?

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Post by Alec Rivers » Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:13 pm

John Gillies wrote:How does he keep getting away with this?
Cos people keep playing him. I stopped a while back. :P

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Post by Eoin Monaghan » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:26 pm

John Gillies wrote:Hi,

I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this?
You think that's bad?

Richard Brittain challenged me to a conundrum attack. I go 100-20 up after 16 rounds and what does he say:
Sorry, I never thought when I challenged you, I do hate conundrum attacks then he said cheers and just left. And he won a series? Talk about bad sportsmanship. He can GANDISEEG his way home cos I'm never playing him again the cheater. :cry:

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Post by Jon Corby » Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:43 pm

Eoin Monaghan wrote:
John Gillies wrote:Hi,

I was just playing Lancelot Wyse and was well up. He said "this is killing me" and promptly left the room. I'm getting really sick of people doing this. How does he keep getting away with this?
You think that's bad?

Richard Brittain challenged me to a conundrum attack. I go 100-20 up after 16 rounds and what does he say:
Sorry, I never thought when I challenged you, I do hate conundrum attacks then he said cheers and just left. And he won a series? Talk about bad sportsmanship. He can GANDISEEG his way home cos I'm never playing him again the cheater. :cry:
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Post by Simon Le Fort » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:24 pm

Although the cheats are a real frustration, one event did make me smile.

I was playing one of the higher rated ladies, and a good hiding she was giving me. In the chat I said words to the effect: "I've got 4 noisy Italians watching over my shoulder, all trying to tell me and each other what to do, hard to concentrate."

Back came the reply: "I hope they're not helping you."

Says I, "Does it look like it at 20-65?"

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Post by Ben Hunter » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:57 pm

Simon Le Fort wrote:Although the cheats are a real frustration, one event did make me smile.

I was playing one of the higher rated ladies, and a good hiding she was giving me. In the chat I said words to the effect: "I've got 4 noisy Italians watching over my shoulder, all trying to tell me and each other what to do, hard to concentrate."

Back came the reply: "I hope they're not helping you."

Says I, "Does it look like it at 20-65?"
When I play and people watch (which isn't often) they always chirp in with suggestions. It's pretty much the opposite of cheating; it's near impossible to play well when all you can hear are a thousand misspelled or invalid words (each one six letters long or less).

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:00 pm

Does anyone else get paranoid that other people might think you're cheating when you're doing better than usual?

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Post by Ian Dent » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:03 pm

Are you talking about me?

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:47 pm

Ian Dent wrote:Are you talking about me?
Not specifically you, but that game we had because anyone might view it, but also generally. And I've never maxed the first eight letters before. Sorry if it came across that way.

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Post by Ian Dent » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:57 pm

Think you missed the joke Gevin, well played though.

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Post by Adam Gillard » Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:29 pm

Charlie and the moderation team (ahem) may have evidence to the contrary, but I don't think James Nguyen is a cheat. I'm surprised that people are jumping on the cheating bandwagon (unless there's some evidence I'm missing). Maybe we should have a poll to see what people think. I know at least one other person agrees with me (excluding James himself).

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Post by Ian Volante » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:13 am

Adam Gillard wrote:Charlie and the moderation team (ahem) may have evidence to the contrary, but I don't think James Nguyen is a cheat. I'm surprised that people are jumping on the cheating bandwagon (unless there's some evidence I'm missing). Maybe we should have a poll to see what people think. I know at least one other person agrees with me (excluding James himself).
If he does cheat, he hides it pretty well. The only suspicion I could have is that he is a pretty inconsistent spotter from what I've seen.
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Post by peter lee » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:41 pm

Played a game against James Nguyen today, Won't play this chap again.
Asked him why he wasn't trying and he said I was insulting his skill level !!

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Post by Dan Abrey » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:53 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Does anyone else get paranoid that other people might think you're cheating when you're doing better than usual?
Yup, I am so inconsistent that I do worry that sometimes. I can go from averaging 2 maxes one day to 8 maxes the next.

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Post by Liam Tiernan » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:41 pm

Dan Abrey wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:Does anyone else get paranoid that other people might think you're cheating when you're doing better than usual?
Yup, I am so inconsistent that I do worry that sometimes. I can go from averaging 2 maxes one day to 8 maxes the next.
I can do that in an hour. Possibly related to the amount of caffeine and/or nicotine in my system at any given time.

Edit: oh, and sugar too.

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Post by Gavin Chipper » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:05 pm

Presumably it's cheating to have a list of your tables out in front of you when doing numbers games. But sometimes I write stuff down during the round, so is it cheating if something I've written from a previous round happens to help me in a later round, although I may not intentionally look at it? You might think it would be pretty rare but I've been playing nasty numbers and I haven't learnt my 87 times table yet.

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Post by Simon Myers » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:38 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote:Presumably it's cheating to have a list of your tables out in front of you when doing numbers games. But sometimes I write stuff down during the round, so is it cheating if something I've written from a previous round happens to help me in a later round, although I may not intentionally look at it? You might think it would be pretty rare but I've been playing nasty numbers and I haven't learnt my 87 times table yet.
I don't see how that's necessarily cheating. There's nothing stopping someone on the show from writing down their 75 times table, say, when they first sit down and then use it throughout the episode.
You could extend the same argument to things like stems, for example, but it's much easier for that sort of thing to be abused at home (whole notebooks full of stems etc) compared to on the show (a probably useless memory-dump of a few choice stems).

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Post by Kirk Bevins » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:49 pm

Simon Myers wrote: I don't see how that's necessarily cheating. There's nothing stopping someone on the show from writing down their 75 times table, say, when they first sit down and then use it throughout the episode.
You could extend the same argument to things like stems, for example, but it's much easier for that sort of thing to be abused at home (whole notebooks full of stems etc) compared to on the show (a probably useless memory-dump of a few choice stems).
Just to add it would be cheating if you went on the show with pre-prepared lists of words and stems and kept them with you. It isn't cheating if you wrote them down from memory.

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Post by David O'Donnell » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:50 pm

Simon Myers wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:Presumably it's cheating to have a list of your tables out in front of you when doing numbers games. But sometimes I write stuff down during the round, so is it cheating if something I've written from a previous round happens to help me in a later round, although I may not intentionally look at it? You might think it would be pretty rare but I've been playing nasty numbers and I haven't learnt my 87 times table yet.
I don't see how that's necessarily cheating. There's nothing stopping someone on the show from writing down their 75 times table, say, when they first sit down and then use it throughout the episode.
You could extend the same argument to things like stems, for example, but it's much easier for that sort of thing to be abused at home (whole notebooks full of stems etc) compared to on the show (a probably useless memory-dump of a few choice stems).
I am fairly sure Stuart Earl did this on the show.

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Post by David Williams » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:36 pm

Kirk Bevins wrote:Just to add it would be cheating if you went on the show with pre-prepared lists of words and stems and kept them with you. It isn't cheating if you wrote them down from memory.
Exactly. I'm pretty sure this has come up before, and I think Damian may even have confirmed this. I think there was someone who, as soon as they got to their seat, wrote LEOTARDS in large capital letters on a piece of paper and followed it up with the 75 times table.

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Post by Nick Boldock » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:54 pm

Ian Volante wrote:
Adam Gillard wrote:Charlie and the moderation team (ahem) may have evidence to the contrary, but I don't think James Nguyen is a cheat. I'm surprised that people are jumping on the cheating bandwagon (unless there's some evidence I'm missing). Maybe we should have a poll to see what people think. I know at least one other person agrees with me (excluding James himself).
If he does cheat, he hides it pretty well. The only suspicion I could have is that he is a pretty inconsistent spotter from what I've seen.
I don't think he's cheating but he improved VERY quickly which is probably what causes alarm in certain folk...

Here's my first game against him - http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=316242

You'll notice he wasn't just bad, he was very bad indeed.

Played him twice since then and the standard was in a different league (lost both albeit not by much in either case) including a ridiculous conundrum in the last one (just now).

Like I say, I wouldn't say he was cheating but I can certainly see why suspicions have been raised.

Nice enough chap, mind.

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Post by Charlie Reams » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:52 pm

He told me himself that he's cheated in the past.

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Post by Nick Boldock » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:13 pm

Charlie Reams wrote:He told me himself that he's cheated in the past.
In that case I think he's cheating. :)

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Post by James Nguyen » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:34 pm

Nick Boldock wrote:
Ian Volante wrote:
Adam Gillard wrote:Charlie and the moderation team (ahem) may have evidence to the contrary, but I don't think James Nguyen is a cheat. I'm surprised that people are jumping on the cheating bandwagon (unless there's some evidence I'm missing). Maybe we should have a poll to see what people think. I know at least one other person agrees with me (excluding James himself).
If he does cheat, he hides it pretty well. The only suspicion I could have is that he is a pretty inconsistent spotter from what I've seen.
I don't think he's cheating but he improved VERY quickly which is probably what causes alarm in certain folk...

Here's my first game against him - http://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=316242

You'll notice he wasn't just bad, he was very bad indeed.

Played him twice since then and the standard was in a different league (lost both albeit not by much in either case) including a ridiculous conundrum in the last one (just now).

Like I say, I wouldn't say he was cheating but I can certainly see why suspicions have been raised.

Nice enough chap, mind.
Hi, Nick.

I don't post on the forums much, but I can say I definitely did not cheat in the games played against you.

Charlie's right, I did used to cheat, but I haven't for a while now.

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Nick Boldock » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:29 pm

James Nguyen wrote: Hi, Nick.

I don't post on the forums much, but I can say I definitely did not cheat in the games played against you.

Charlie's right, I did used to cheat, but I haven't for a while now.
If you're not cheating now, then you certainly didn't need to cheat before...

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Jimmy Gough » Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:11 pm

I played James Nguyen on apterous. Seems like a colourful character.

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Edward McCullagh » Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:46 pm

Nick Boldock wrote:
James Nguyen wrote: Hi, Nick.

I don't post on the forums much, but I can say I definitely did not cheat in the games played against you.

Charlie's right, I did used to cheat, but I haven't for a while now.
If you're not cheating now, then you certainly didn't need to cheat before...
I think James is probably focused completely on the game now, and is able to churn out 13, 14 and 15 games in every game because he is concentrating. Unlike before, where he had a pretty short temper, now he's a lot more calmer and it's reaping rewards for him.

/End of Psychology lecture :P

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Rhys Benjamin » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:21 pm

The forum's resident JAILBAKER, who has SPONDERED several times...

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Mark James » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:45 pm

Rhys Benjamin wrote:http://apterous.org/viewuser.php?id=14641

Surely fake.
What's fake? The name Steven Gerard? Is it beyond the realm of possibility that there are more than one person with the same name? And even if it is a fake name it's hardly cheating.

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Craig Beevers » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:46 pm

Mark James wrote:
Rhys Benjamin wrote:http://apterous.org/viewuser.php?id=14641

Surely fake.
What's fake? The name Steven Gerard? Is it beyond the realm of possibility that there are more than one person with the same name? And even if it is a fake name it's hardly cheating.
Should test it out by changing the Countdown clock music to something he won't like and see what happens.

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Oliver Garner » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:15 pm

Craig Beevers wrote:Should test it out by changing the Countdown clock music to something he won't like and see what happens.
+1

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Re: Cheating: What it is, and why you shouldn't do it

Post by Ryan Taylor » Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:43 pm

Can we have all high scores deleted or games made void if they involve cheating. Namely this one which James quits the game on 6 separate occasions to achieve max.

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