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CO-MSO 2017

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:02 pm
by Tony Atkins
There will be a Countdown event at the 2017 Mind Sports Olympiad.
For details of all events at MSO see http://www.msoworld.com/events/
This is held in London at the end of August and there is a slot on the Bank Holiday Monday
for a Countdown event. Top three places will get the gold/silver/bronze medals
and there would be junior medals too if enough juniors play and do well enough.

There have been Countdown events at the MSO before but not for a while
and most recently there was a CO LONDON event on the spare day in the MSO calendar.

So confirmed for Monday 28th August 2017 from 10:15 to 18:00 at
JW3, 341-351 Finchley Road, London NW3 6ET.
This is a modern Jewish Community Centre - please note food and knives etc may not be brought on site.

Entry fee £15 - book at http://www.msoworld.com/events/countdown/

Update August 24th:

Not too late to enter - you can even just turn up on the day - a dozen or so registered so far I believe - including at least one series champ.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:48 pm
by Euan Slatter
Do you have exact dates? As i am in London for the athletics, so might be able to come would there be one!

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:14 pm
by Zarte Siempre
When you say on the Sunday before, do you mean... the day before? Or the weekend before?

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:04 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Zarte Siempre wrote:When you say on the Sunday before, do you mean... the day before? Or the weekend before?
Sounds like another Easter Saturday situation.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:03 pm
by Jennifer Steadman
Tony Atkins wrote:Anyone up to having a Countdown event at the 2017 Mind Sports Olympiad?
This is held in London at the end of August and there is the possibility that
there is a slot on either the Bank Holiday Monday or the Sunday before for
a Countdown event. Top three places would get the gold/silver/bronze medals
and there would be junior medals too if enough juniors play and do well enough.

There have been Countdown events at the MSO before bu not for a while
and most recently there was a COLON event on the spare day in the MSO calendar.

I am winning to help run it, but it would be great if someone would be able to
run the projection software instead of card letters.

Comments please.
Who've you spoken to about it? I spoke to Craig Beevers about it a while back and he said:

"I would think Mindsports International will have some sort of exclusivity deal, what exactly that covers though I don't know. They're heavily invested with Scrabble and I work part time with them getting content and essentially getting schools signed up to their program. I'm skeptical of whether they'd take on another word game. But it depends on their perception and whether it is seen as competing with Scrabble or two things which could be mutually beneficial. They wouldn't expect any financial contribution if they were interested. "

From that I got the impression it was basically a no-go.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:15 am
by Heather Styles
I'd be happy to help you on the day, Tony, but I would need a refresher course in using the software. Or it might just be easier to go low-tech. I cannot promise help before the day, though. It's good to know that there is still some interest from MSO in Countdown. Perhaps there could be some sort of reciprocal publicity arrangement, as we had with Comultilon.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:29 am
by Charlie Reams
They approached me a few years ago about doing an apterous event, so I don't think there's any exclusivity of word games. (The event didn't happen in the end because I couldn't make the dates, but other than that I think it's viable.)

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:33 am
by Ben Wilson
Think people might be confusing MSO with MSI (unless one has recently bought the other, I dunno), which is admittedly fairly easily done.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:42 pm
by James Robinson
Sounds cool, I'll certainly be in the country.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:47 pm
by Gavin Chipper
James Robinson wrote:Sounds cool, I'll certainly be in the country.
I know you're from the north, but it is still in the same country as London.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:09 pm
by Tony Atkins
Thanks to Heather for offering to help and the MSO team (nothing to do with MSI), we have a provisional date
of the bank holiday Monday 28th August 2017. It will run from 10:15 to 18:00 with a lunch break, but as it their
last day the medals will be in the closing ceremony which usually ends about 19:30 (anyone dashing off for a train
back to Yorkshire or any other country doesn't need to wait). They will decide for sure if they can have us in January.

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:01 pm
by Euan Slatter
YEEEEEES! I might finally be able to attend an event! :D

Re: Possible CO-MSO

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:12 am
by Heather Styles
Okay Tony, I'll wait to hear from you for definite.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:31 pm
by Tony Atkins
Now definite - see updated first posting.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:34 pm
by aidan linge
Not sure if I'll be able to attend will have to decide closer to the time, will there be FOCAL points up for grabs as well as medals?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:54 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Tony Atkins wrote:please note food and knives etc may not be brought on site.
You say etc, but there's not enough there to make a connection. What about drinks and forks?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:16 pm
by Thomas Carey
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tony Atkins wrote:please note food and knives etc may not be brought on site.
You say etc, but there's not enough there to make a connection. What about drinks and forks?
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Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:50 pm
by Gavin Chipper
Thomas Carey wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tony Atkins wrote:please note food and knives etc may not be brought on site.
You say etc, but there's not enough there to make a connection. What about drinks and forks?
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Like.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:46 am
by Thomas Cappleman
Thomas Carey wrote:
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Tony Atkins wrote:please note food and knives etc may not be brought on site.
You say etc, but there's not enough there to make a connection. What about drinks and forks?
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Is that a round 1 or round 2 question?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:00 am
by Graeme Cole
Thomas Cappleman wrote:Is that a round 1 or round 2 question?
Round 1. It's things the Fox and Hounds usually run out of on the last Saturday in January, along with space and beer.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:34 am
by Thomas Carey
Graeme Cole wrote:
Thomas Cappleman wrote:Is that a round 1 or round 2 question?
Round 1. It's things the Fox and Hounds usually run out of on the last Saturday in January, along with space and beer.
3 points to the Verbivores. This puts you at precisely the number of points required to be able to cock up the wall and then win by one after the missing vowels round.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:23 am
by Heather Styles
Thomas Carey wrote:
Graeme Cole wrote:
Thomas Cappleman wrote:Is that a round 1 or round 2 question?
Round 1. It's things the Fox and Hounds usually run out of on the last Saturday in January, along with space and beer.
3 points to the Verbivores. This puts you at precisely the number of points required to be able to cock up the wall and then win by one after the missing vowels round.
Brilliant.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 12:24 am
by Heather Styles
aidan linge wrote:Not sure if I'll be able to attend will have to decide closer to the time, will there be FOCAL points up for grabs as well as medals?
No. This isn't a FOCAL affiliated event.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:44 pm
by Jonathan Wynn
Provisionally in please. I hope this doesn't mean the cancellation of reading though.....?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:07 am
by Heather Styles
I will no longer be co-hosting this event. I have already explained why to Tony. I know that this won't bother most people either way, but equally I hope that it might encourage some more people to attend. I won't respond to any questions or comments in public or private about this.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:09 am
by Adam Gillard
On the website it says there's £100,000 in prize money. Is any of this available in the Countdown event?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:00 am
by Tony Atkins
Adam Gillard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:09 am On the website it says there's £100,000 in prize money. Is any of this available in the Countdown event?
Sadly it seems the best one can hope for is a very small pocket dictionary...

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:16 pm
by Adam Gillard
Tony Atkins wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:00 am
Adam Gillard wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:09 am On the website it says there's £100,000 in prize money. Is any of this available in the Countdown event?
Sadly it seems the best one can hope for is a very small pocket dictionary...
Ah right, count me out then!

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:52 pm
by Tony Atkins
Congrats to Ann Dibben for winning Gold by beating Tom Cappleman in the final.
Bronze went to Jonathan DeSouza.

Full results and rescaps shortly.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:52 am
by Tony Atkins
Results table at http://www.kisekigo.com/cd/MSO17.pdf

In the third-fourth play-off Jonathan beat Tim 92-82

In the final Ann beat Tom by getting the conundrum - 113-110

The games are at http://www.kisekigo.com/cd/mso17games.pdf - answers later!

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:16 pm
by Matt Bayfield
That conundrum scramble must have been METALATES, not METALITES as currently recapped, to maintain the theme running through the solutions?

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:00 pm
by Johnny Canuck
Matt Bayfield wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:16 pm That conundrum scramble must have been METALATES, not METALITES as currently recapped, to maintain the theme running through the solutions?
... as well as to have a solution.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:43 pm
by Tony Atkins
Matt Bayfield wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:16 pm That conundrum scramble must have been METALATES, not METALITES as currently recapped, to maintain the theme running through the solutions?
Typo now corrected - I can't be sure there aren't others as I haven't checked it yet.

Conundrum in R2 was an emergency one as the cover fell off the answer to the planned one
before the clock started, so it doesn't fit the theme.

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:33 pm
by Phyl Styles
Round 2 4th numbers game needs another number, please

Re: CO-MSO

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:06 pm
by Tony Atkins
The typos were in Game 2 Round 14 numbers, Game 3 Round 9 target, game 5 round 2 letters and final R7 letters - sorry!
The corrected games are now at http://www.kisekigo.com/cd/mso17games.pdf and recaps are
at http://www.kisekigo.com/cd/mso17recaps.pdf