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Gavin Chipper

I'm 100% happy with sabre-toothed tiger. Smilodon is good too. But in your original statement it is unclear whether the person is equating sabre-toothed tiger and sabre-toothed cat, which is plain wrong, or whether they in fact understand the distinction, in which case it is you who has missed the ...

Gavin Chipper

The thing is that people say they're not sabre-toothed tigers but sabre-toothed cats because they're not actually tigers. Well: 1. Killer whales aren't whales, but that's their name. 2. Are they really even cats? The "official" family name is Felidae but we informally call them cats, beca...

Gavin Chipper

People who think they're being really clever by saying "sabre-tooth cat" instead of "sabre-tooth" tiger. Get over yourselves - they're sabre-tooth tigers. The sabre-toothed tiger (smilodon) is the most recent of a number of species of sabre-toothed cats that have existed from ti...

Gavin Chipper

-I am the only player to have finished in every position between 1st-10th at a co-event (assuming you take beaten quarter-finalists as all having finished 6th. Which you should). Really? I'd say 5th, 6.5th or undefined. But not 6th. I went for '6.5th rounded up' if it makes you feel any better. OK,...

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Matt Morrison wrote:How do I point out it's "toothed" not "tooth" whilst ensuring I piss you off Gevin?

It can be either.

Gavin Chipper

Yeah I watched it, it was okay - light years better than his shit TV specials have been, in that it was a proper magic show. The thing about Derren is that even if he might not have explicitly stated it at the start of this show, it's sort of implied from what he claims he does generally that every...

Gavin Chipper

People who think they're being really clever by saying "sabre-tooth cat" instead of "sabre-tooth" tiger. Get over yourselves - they're sabre-tooth tigers.

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Ben Wilson wrote: -I am the only player to have finished in every position between 1st-10th at a co-event (assuming you take beaten quarter-finalists as all having finished 6th. Which you should).

Really? I'd say 5th, 6.5th or undefined. But not 6th.

Gavin Chipper

James - with the England game kicking off at 5.00pm on Saturday, if possible, can you try to squeeze the schedule with a view to finishing earlier than 6.00pm - e.g. start early if everyone there, shorter lunch break etc. Cheers Trying to use football to dictate the timing of a CO event. Whatever n...

Gavin Chipper

Well, I wouldn't there to be any subjective decisions made, because contestants then have to guess whether a lexicographer might consider a word to be reasonable. Also, Susie has used her own subjective judgement in the past and it has led to criticism on here. That doesn't mean FEINTER has to be a...

Gavin Chipper

Interesting that FEINTER is a word today. An extra dose of blood-pressure medication needed I think. Having a blanket one-syllable rule would OK if it could be applied consistently, but it plainly can't be. As far as I'm aware the current dictionary gives no support for it's continued half-use, whi...

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Tony Atkins wrote:Seems 947 is best on 1st numbers.

Or 945.

Interesting that FEINTER is a word today.

Gavin Chipper

Fred Mumford wrote:If it isn't Abdi v Mark Hartnett, I'll eat my breakfast.

If it is, what's the next highest?

There's an obvious one from this series too but that won't come up. Maybe if we wait until lunch.

Gavin Chipper

I just had a look at the Ask Graeme thread , and it seems that some people have been allowed to continue their runs rather than start again. But I don't think there's "proof" in terms of someone that came back to continue their run in a later series and made the knockout stages with a seed...

Gavin Chipper

Right yes. I probably meant two or three wins rather than one or two.

Gavin Chipper

Tony Atkins wrote:
Peter Mabey wrote:Surprised to find POORISH isn' t there
(OK in Scrabble)
The 7 is an ISH word

You mean it's sort of a word?

Gavin Chipper

Innis Carson wrote:Apparently Jonny will be invited back next series. (link for those of you who can read the apterous chat logs)

It's interesting that he says he'll start again rather than carry anything forward (either one or even two wins).

Gavin Chipper

Tony Atkins wrote:Anyone get 553? Lots of ways to a miserable 560....

I got 557 using the standard method in the time but haven't tried beyond that.

Gavin Chipper

PEATLAND in round 4.

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PEATLAND in round 4.

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Also Helen Grayson.

Graeme Cole wrote:This is because scraping [...] is a moderate pain in the backside because of various things that tend to go wrong.

Time to change your brand of toilet paper.

Gavin Chipper

Fred Mumford wrote:If you're counting maxes, would R3 be a free max for both players? I'm guessing it has to be.

I would definitely count it.

Gavin Chipper

No BLACKIE^ or even BACKIE^ allowed in round 10.

Gavin Chipper

What's the most numbers games anyone's played scoring 0 in all of them?

Gavin Chipper

Fred Mumford wrote:C2 has pretty much got this wrapped up if he plays tactically in R14 and goes for "some numbers".

Harsh.

Gavin Chipper

Great game, great run and the knock-out stages are shaping up to be pretty good. Credit to Tom for making it a reasonably close game and not letting your head drop after the third numbers game. A mistake like that is so simple to make under studio conditions. Unlucky to come up against George, as I ...

Gavin Chipper

In that first numbers, I did (100*50-4*75)/25+1 = 189. For some reason it was the only way I could see to get it.

Gavin Chipper

Jon Corby wrote:Ita asking for "a turd"

Racist.

Gavin Chipper

Correct numbers solutions don't get disallowed you big ninny. If HEADWAYS was an available beater but nobody spotted it, we'd either count it or not depending on whatever dictionary was being used by the recapper. This is the whole point, there is no definitive word list, so the whole max game conc...

Gavin Chipper

STOPOVER as the standard method alternative to OVERTOPS.

And (25×8-7)×3=579 as the standard method in round 6.

Gavin Chipper

The actual score is just what the show awards so you wouldn't give Jonny the points. Eh? Am I misunderstanding here? So if Jonny maxed every other round, you'd want the records to show that he scored 118/126, but on inspection you'd find that he actually declared the word you're sayng he missed? :?...

Gavin Chipper

How do people normally deal with DC errors in recaps? I'd base the max on what is "objectively" there, making it 126. But surely then you'd have to also award the points to Jonny as well? It's been said before that while there is no definitive word list, the concept of a max is slightly w...

Gavin Chipper

Peter Mabey wrote:(100+2)X(25+4)/6=493

Nice factorisation again.

George Pryn wrote:
Mark Kudlowski wrote:((100+25)x4)-((8+6)/2)=493 for third numbers game
Nice spot, very neat!!!

Looking at that, I'm struggling to see how it seemed so hard at the time. It looks really obvious now.

Gavin Chipper

That was more of a standard method solve from George in round 3. I managed to get that one.

Gavin Chipper

Is it really necessary to have Carol Vorderman's head on a spike displayed in the corner of the studio? It was always a bit mysterious how she died anyway, and then the "agreement" to have the rights to display her head in such a manner does not seem something that you'd expect her family ...

Gavin Chipper

What's the consensus opinion about the addition of gravel traps and the compulsory wearing of crash helmets? I know the Harry Mulvey fatality in that freak consonant accident was a tragedy for all concerned, but if you eliminate all the risks entirely then the very nature of the game changes. Banni...

Gavin Chipper

Well here it is then. What we've all been waiting for. After some awesome games, the top two seeds have made it through to the final. First up is number 1 seed - Dan McColm. And he's up against the number two seed - George "Pryn" Ford. This should be a good match. Stats to follow.

Gavin Chipper

Jack Worsley wrote:James, would you mind if I did the odd one? I've always wanted to start a spoilers thread?

Just do it.

Gavin Chipper

Personally I take a completely opposite view. IMO changing the result of a round retrospectively is worse than the problem it's attempting to resolve. Once a round is completed, the adjudication should stand, no matter what. This is the way practically all competitive activities with a formal set o...

Gavin Chipper

I am on vacation from today until late Thursday, so the three spoilers I normally do are up for grabs. Anyone want them? Just take 'em. I didn't realise this was done on a rota. I thought you and James just randomly started these threads between you. I mean - a rota for recaps I can understand, but...

Gavin Chipper

Ideally speaking, my preference in all of these cases (as it was in Q4) is to replay the whole game from the point at which the error was made. Where it's logistically possible to do so, I'd do that regardless of the precise details of what happened after the error. Where it isn't, then to be hones...

Gavin Chipper

4. C2 is 15 points behind going into the last numbers round. He asks for 6 small in the hope of getting a difficult round on which he can beat C1. The round is difficult, but C1 gets it spot on and C2 doesn't. C2 is now 25 behind. Then, just before you go into the conundrum, DC informs you that a m...

Gavin Chipper

I think that was the only solution so you can let me off hehehe Maybe - the solver is down so can't check at the mo. But you could of course have just done 100/50 = 2 and not gone above 1,950 in an intermediate stage. Or even 975 actually. Glad you didn't though. I suppose thinking about it, it was...

Gavin Chipper

Round 11: W H G A E A Y D S Jonny: headways George: WASHDAY (7) DC: HEADWAY (7) Score: 65–78 (max 90) Final Score: 92–102 (max 125) How do people normally deal with DC errors in recaps? I'd base the max on what is "objectively" there, making it 126. In many cases, there are DC beaters tha...

Gavin Chipper

Lets just congratulate George on a well played game. You can only play to the conditions on the day. It's not like he objected to the word being allowed. Jonny has said he holds no grudge. Yes, there's no doubt that both players played very well, and both performances would have won against most co...

Gavin Chipper

I think we're largely in agreement in this thread, and I think this discussion just goes to show that in general, if someone needs any dispute resolved, then they should seek out a C4Cer. It's not by any means certain that Jonny would definitely have won had HEADWAYS been allowed, so it would be unf...

Gavin Chipper

What to do in the HEADWAYS round is a variant on question 4 in Graeme's You Are The Ref thread . And judging by the answers given by seemingly most people, including all of the first five respondents, picking one-large and then having an earlier round overturned should not void the one-large selecti...

Gavin Chipper

the fact that it finds HEADWAYS if you use the search bar I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I can't see it in the search bar. It doesn't come up as a suggestion for you to click on, but if you type it in and press enter, it will find the entry for HEADWAY. That's a bit weird actually. It seems...

Gavin Chipper

I would say that disallowing HEADWAYS was definitely an error. The second definition is not listed as a mass noun, nor could be interpreted as a mass noun from the definition. Basically it says: NOUN 1. Mass noun - DEFINITION 2. DEFINITION The mass noun label only applies to the first definition. Th...

Gavin Chipper

People with phones and a reasonable data plan can look up words, unless it's in the middle of nowhere with no signal.

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Graeme Cole wrote:In true CoEdi tradition, this must take place after round 1.

It is also not the number of votes that counts, but how high each hand is raised.

Gavin Chipper

Because he's a celebrity they might have to keep him in an isolated cell - also known as "box 23".

Gavin Chipper

Fancy an apterite getting a question on the Mohs scale (although there was one mentioned that isn't used on apterous)! Well done Hugh and Team Magdalen, your opponents gave you a good run for a fair while there until you pulled away in the end. I noticed that too, but there's always an obvious gues...

Gavin Chipper

They're calling it "Brittains Law".

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Missed it. Which box was it in?

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Peter Mabey wrote:Non-standard method for last numbers: (9x3+7)x(8+9)

Straight in with the factorisation as always. I wonder how many you get that don't factorise.

Gavin Chipper

The whole show is fixed. It was the +£10,000 in box 23 again? I've got a very exciting idea for a new gameshow, based on Deal Or No Deal but with elements of The Crystal Maze. You'd still have 22 contestants (or however many it is) but instead of standing around with boxes and trotting out sob stor...

Gavin Chipper

He's taken it down and issued an apology.

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Tony Atkins wrote:Well I was winning until he turned up the gas for the last 3 rounds. Nice finish!

You must have missed the standard method in the last numbers then. 576+2 rather than 567+11 was the standard method.

Gavin Chipper

I'm guessing that the conclusion will be "no". You can come back and tell us what it said.

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