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Bumping this - the tool that was used for hosting the finals yesterday implemented "algorithm 2" as outlined by Jack (although with 9 or 15 rounders (code bugs excepted!) we're never going to get near the end of the pack so algorithm 1 is probably fine!) I think it felt about right - ther...

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Async games have been well received among the player who have been kind enough to test them out with me, so I'm happy to share that in December, there will be the first ever multiplayer (async) games in the app, which you can sign up for in over in the event thread!

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🌟 The December Decathlon: A Countdown Tournament In the unofficial Android app🌟 Event Details: Format: 10 async Countdown 9 rounders. Opponents: A variety of players, and after the first round they should be a similar ability level. Where: Challenges tab in the Android app . Play Window: Games for ...

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Thanks for organising and running the whole thing Jeff, it was really fun, and the quiz was particularly impressive :) I'd also just like to say a few words on format. Fwiw, my interpretation of the results is there wasn't much between random draws and Swiss pairs after all, and that's a credit to t...

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Super hard cons coming for you at rugby except if you're against maus and i give you guys squeezing Not sure whether to be happy or sad about this haha. Was interesting to see some VERY hard conundrums at Rugby last time. I've been mucking around with multiplayer. It's very prototype, but if anybod...

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Bottom of you challenges list.

(These kind of things will probably get their own section of the app one day, but since I don't have the time to do it quickly, for now they'll just be in your challenges list.

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I've been mucking around with multiplayer. It's very prototype, but if anybody wants to do a head to head 20 conundrum game, let me know here (with your username). I can set up a game vs myself, or if you have another player in mind lmk who they are. Excited for this mode! I won't have a lot of tim...

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The three of you should all now have a game available vs me

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I've been mucking around with multiplayer. It's very prototype, but if anybody wants to do a head to head 20 conundrum game, let me know here (with your username). I can set up a game vs myself, or if you have another player in mind lmk who they are.

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You declare '9 nwd' to buy yourself an extra few seconds. I know you're not saying you approve of this behaviour, nor that you would ever try it yourself (I am sure you wouldn't). Just a good time to point out to people for when they host games. If a player has a NWD and it seems like they could be...

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Does anybody have opinions for FOCAL finals? This event is a bit different from the rest because it's the top players from the year, so higher average standard, and more crucials are likely. There's also the open going on at the same time which I think typically ends up being as high a standard as a...

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I've not had any complaints about this method yet, but I'm always open to constructive criticism. It's a good system! Since a few hosts have posted here, I would note that I like that each host has a different system, I think it works well overall if you go to many events that you never end up with...

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it seems unfair to give the top table a harder conundrum. Your point is 100% valid, but.... The Swiss pairs seeding system is intrinsically biased against players who have done well so far anyway, and this is adding another source of bias. The hard conundrum penalty is absolutely tiny compare to th...

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Looks great! Count me in for both.

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Ruth's approach at London was initially to play a bunch of cons on your app and save off some interesting ones, but they tended too easy. Yeah this is by design, mainly for 2 reasons: - The game has way more beginner players than any other Countdown platform and it keeps it more accessible to have ...

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At the Event -Previously, I have separated cons by Easy (1-3 hardness), Medium (4-7 hardness), Hard (8+), with some variation depending on scramble or word. However, at Rugby 2023, two strong players (around 1900 and 1700 respectively) missed ESUBTONIC -> BOUNCIEST because they were bracing for som...

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Thomas Cappleman wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 4:30 pm We discussed after, and next time they'd probably all have a wider range but weighted - so a top table's likely but not guaranteed to have a tough one.

I think this is a great way to go. You need a bit of randomness to make it less predictable.

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My thoughts on conundrums, and setting them... Lots of good stuff in here from Graeme as per usual. Two points opinions I hold as counterpoints: - The stuff about the struggle is really interesting and I broadly agree. I worry that people might read the post and interpret it to mean that as a host,...

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Setting good conundrums for co-events sounds like quite an undertaking. If you are doing Lincoln style, you have to print hundreds. You ideally want to check for no repeats, unique solutions and a good spread of difficulty. For a final I guess you want to find something special. Hosts seem to do a g...

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The S63-S64 period was pretty damn strong. Ed McCullagh and Eoin Monoghan two exquisite players. Eoin missing out on 30BC was a huge shame, and Eddy also was pretty hard done by losing in his RD1 draw losing to Rawlo on a tiebreak.

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What about having all three

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The app now has a subscription feature which gives unlimited access to Jokerdown, Decadown and Mini rules, as well as a new 30 round "Triathlon" format. There's also the word check screen (which has a new "add 2 letters" section, and a couple of stats screens with graphs. I plan...

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The app now has a subscription feature which gives unlimited access to Jokerdown, Decadown and Mini rules, as well as a new 30 round "Triathlon" format. There's also the word check screen (which has a new "add 2 letters" section, and a couple of stats screens with graphs. I plan ...

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Version 0.0.4 is out. I've added 5 more events: Co:Ne 2022 and 2023, Edit 2022, London 2023 and Leeds 2023. Robs lead at the top extends. Ahmed moves up into the top 10.

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No thoughts of bumping up the K factor for finals games? Nope. Trying to add as little complexity as possible. Where can the rest of us find out our ratings? Not fully available yet. I plan to post the full standings eventually, but need to get some more events in, and have to tidy up a few things....

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When I watched it live I thought he was caught up in the moment and I didn't thing the woman minded. Very important to note, just because somebody might not look uncomfortable/wronged/violated/offended/threatened/harassed at the exact moment an incident takes place, it doesn't mean that they aren't...

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Version 1.86 of the app is out today. It contains a couple of updates to the word checker, and I've added availability for it to cover the rest of the 2023 co events

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Thomas Cappleman wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 8:26 pm Confirmed attendees (30):
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Rungis McDungis
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Dungis McRungis

I hope we get these two on the same table at some point during the day

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Why were charges dropped then? The victim (as happens in who knows how many less high-profile cases) took him back, and if I remember right, she asked for the charges to be dropped. This is the part that's most terrifying. It's mental that Man United still have him on their books at this point. The...

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What rating do you give randoms who turn up on telly with no form? 1000? 1500 is the default. At the moment, all of the configurable parameters are just at the default that the creator of the python lib put in. Happy to review this and change if needed. Missing events Waterford 2021, 2022, and 2023...

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What's it got to do with Countdown?

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Do you know which letters sets will be in use? If it's the Board Game sets, do you know when you'll have them from? The consistency in the letter packs was because I sat down and sorted through every one of them in the weeks beforehand and gave them equal distribution (yes, I'm sad). I kid you not, ...

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The consistency in the letter packs was because I sat down and sorted through every one of them in the weeks beforehand and gave them equal distribution (yes, I'm sad). I kid you not, one of the packs had 4 Ks in before doing this. I'm all for fairness and everyone playing with the same quantities ...

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London 2022 and CoC XVI now added. That gives us all of Ahmed's games for those curious to see where he is ranked. I've also added Played / Won / Lost / Win Rate to the data. Note that some event formats had single player games, and some games have no scores recorded, which will explain why Played !...

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I assume Ahmed would be top 5 if S84+ were included, and Ronan would be on the list somewhere. Rob Foster is a fascinating case, clearly right up there with the goatiest GOATs but might forever be plagued by the "can he do it on a wet Wednesday night in Salford?" question I think it works...

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13 Events Added and Ratings updated. Rob still at the top, with the other two usual suspects also making up the top 3. Loads of events still to be added that Rob won without losing a game, so expect to see his gap widen a bit when we have that data. Keep thinking of it all as provisional due to the ...

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I can't find any records of individual games for this event. Does anybody have them? Would like to get them added to the event rankings.

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I've produced a list of ELO ratings for Countdown players based on real life games. This accounts for games from Television and games from Co-Events. I used all games that I could find. Top 25 Players v0.0.4 Rob Foster:2364 P:304 W:235 L:64 WIN_RATE:78 Conor Travers:2216 P:171 W:138 L:33 WIN_RATE:80...

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Thanks to Adam and MSR for putting on this event! Several things about this event were awesome: - Adam did a cracking Job hosting his first event(s) - The venue was excellent. Hope there's another Co:Brum there next year - 8 game format. Probably not everybody's taste, but it's good to have a few of...

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Yeah agreed. TBH I don't think people pay any attention to shuffles at co-events, and most of the Conundrums have a total viewership of 3 (if its Lincoln style), so there's very little value added to the event by having meaningful shuffles.

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Tomorrow on the Android app will be the first Saturday Showdown. Every hour there will be a new challenge, meaning there will be 24 challenges in total!

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Well I can't offer a different daily challenge every second in the Android app, but inspired by this, there will be 24 different daily challenges tomorrow! One different challenge for each hour, open for only that hour. Hoping I can do at least 10 of them!

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Wow what a truly awful acronym

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26 votes cast and 0 votes for either of the division based formats...

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The men's final was on another planet from the women's. I've thought that a good way of stepping the women's matches up a notch (as a possible precursor to five-set matches) would be to move them to four set matches. First to three, but a champions tie-break if it reaches 2-2. I would absolutely lo...

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Ben Wilson wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am we need someone to stand guard in case Damian appears

This is the bit that amuses me the most. I'm sure (in your dream world) if he did catch you, his reaction would be to ask to join.

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Apparently it got 70 million users in the first 2 days. What do people think will become of it?

I joined the bandwagon and started posting a few word puzzles/games https://www.threads.net/@wordgamegeeks

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What's the consensus among the hardcore players around the new numbers interface? Better or worse? Don't hold back on the criticism please

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Here's and idea for a game format that I think would be interesting at co-events. The 11 rounder LLLNLLLNABC Where A is a round picked by player 2 and B is a round picked by player 1. When you are picking those rounds you can choose between letters numbers or conundrum (if you pick conundrum it's on...

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I'm building a new variant which has 10 letter Conundrums. For anybody who wants to contribute to the list of Conundrums, feel free to send over a list (however long) of possible 10 letter conundrums my way. No need to worry about validity - I'll run a script my side to check everything, so there's ...

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The Unofficial Countdown Android app is available here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.jackhurst.countdown.production&hl=en&gl=US It can be used for word checking at co-events, and has been designed in a way to help player efficiently adjudicate letters rounds. How to us...

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We reached game number 200,000 early this morning.

Game 1: 31 October 2021
Game 1000: 18 Dec 2021
Game 10000: 20 Mar 2022
Game 50000: 11 Nov 2022
Game 100000: 9 Feb 2023
Game 200000: 31 May 2023

First 100k took 15 months, second 100k took 15 weeks.

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Starting tomorrow there will be 2 more challenges added every day. The 3rd Challenge will be a LLNNC Mini countdown game, and 4th Challenge will be a LLLLL Jokerdown game. I hope everything will "Just work", but since this is new, and way less tested than the standard version, gimme a shou...

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Just a minor admin note for co:event finals. I think going forward if it's a crucial we need to remember to always have somebody (with a good camera phone) recording the contestants hands for buzzes. No damage done on Saturday (I didn't event buzz), but if you watch the YouTube video back you'll see...

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Good to see Ahmed get an event win under his belt (albeit at my expense!)

Thanks for hosting and organizing Fiona and Lesli

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Matt Morrison wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 10:04 pm bareboners efficiency

Fixed it 4 u

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Adam S Latchford wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 7:36 am Fun daily challenge today!

I am glad you enjoyed it and hope you found the Force.

Sadly I forgot to get a custom challenge set up for today before I went on holiday, so you won't be having any Coronation themed rounds.

Here's what you could have had:

BATTERSBY
DEVALAHAN
ROVERSRTN
BLANCHRIP

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The Billionaire is very appreciative of the input so far and has decided he will devise a new game based on many of these ideas put together. Update to come in the next couple of days. Mark Deeks is set to become a very rich man!

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