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by Gavin Chipper
Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:52 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Politics in General
Replies: 453
Views: 60550

Re: Politics in General

I might as well use this thread for this. What do you think of feminism? Are you a feminist? I just read this article , and the thing the article refuses to explicitly state is basically my opinion on the matter and I'd been considered posting something on the matter anyway. In short - people agree ...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:40 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Monday 4th February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 9)
Replies: 3
Views: 735

Re: Spoilers for Monday 4th February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 9)

It was hilarious when they both discovered that there was such a thing as four vowels late in the game and then there was no stopping them!
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

No-one mentioned forum legend Joseph Bolas yet? Also Amey Deshpande.
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 1 February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 8)
Replies: 7
Views: 1224

Re: Spoilers for Friday 1 February 2019 (Series 80, Prelim 7)

Three vowels every time, regardless of what came up - I wish they both could have lost.

Great game though! :D
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:54 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

A Frank Mulvey v Will D Downing special needs to happen. I only discovered this forum and the wiki as a result of wondering exactly when Downing's game had taken place, as I could still remember it so well. Really shocked to discover you only joined in October 2013. Thought you'd been around foreve...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:45 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for 28th January 2019
Replies: 9
Views: 1400

Re: Spoilers for 28th January 2019

I think it gets logged as an error if Nick tries to say "going" and ends up saying "gawing".
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:50 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

Heather Badcock was robbed when her opponent was allowed PEACES.
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 29th January 2019 (series 80, prelim 5)
Replies: 8
Views: 1230

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 29th January 2019 (series 80, prelim 5)

First octochamp sorted. Two new contestants. Can we get another run like last series? Let's find out If Adam plays like he did today, despite the nervy start, then I would say that a double octochamp run would not be out of question. Unholiest was a cracking 9 and Carriage was a good spot too. Also...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

Owen Carroll wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:27 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 pm
samir pilica wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:51 pm
Jeffrey Hansford
I was going to say that but you buzzed in too quickly.
Is that a joke from Jeffrey always buzzing in quickly?
Yep!
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Jan 28, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey
Replies: 10
Views: 1769

Re: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey

Callum Todd wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:08 am
As for those of you in the South who are disappointed that most of the named options on the survey are in the North, that's because I'm the one offering to host the event, and I live in the North.
What's with all the Wales options then?
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

samir pilica wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:51 pm
Jeffrey Hansford
I was going to say that but you buzzed in too quickly.
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday December 12th 2013 (S69 QF1)
Replies: 32
Views: 3812

Re: Spoilers for Thursday December 12th 2013 (S69 QF1)

((9x8x6)+1+1)/2=167 for R9 - pretty chuffed with that! Though well done Dylan for ending my 179 show winning streak against the TV :P. Very well done both today, absolutely insane standard! Shame to see you go Gemma but good luck for 2014 onwards :) I know I'm several years late to this, but I did ...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:44 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

I think James Rowan was unlucky to lose to a Hansforded conundrum on his only appearance.
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 332
Views: 72230

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

There is a list of the parkrun courses by how fast they are according to the average "SSS" rating on runbritainrankings. The SSS rating of a course is its difficulty rating based on how fast people run compared to how fast they should run according to their previous runs on the runbritain site (not ...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 332
Views: 72230

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

I've just been through the list again. First of all, welcome to Tom Chafer-Cook on this list. We also have improvements from Rose Boyle and Stephen Read who has managed to leapfrog over Tom Feilding. But perhaps most exciting of all is that Oliver Garner has improved his PB from 17:04 to 17:00, and ...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 332
Views: 72230

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

At the first CO-event of the year, me and Mike Springett both took part in the Lincoln parkrun. Neither of us fell over. Results out of 477 runners: 15: Gevin Chapwell - 20:07 (67 points) 126: Mike Springett - 25:30 (33 points) I can't be bothered to do a championship table because it's the same as ...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 25, 2019 7:58 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?
Replies: 38
Views: 5579

Re: Who would you like to see get a second or third chance on Countdown ?

A Frank Mulvey v Will D Downing special needs to happen. I only discovered this forum and the wiki as a result of wondering exactly when Downing's game had taken place, as I could still remember it so well. Really shocked to discover you only joined in October 2013. Thought you'd been around forever.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 24, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What films have you watched lately?
Replies: 233
Views: 57809

Re: What films have you watched lately?

Watched The Dark Knight again the other night because I didn't like it the first time and thought maybe a second viewing might do the trick but no. Still don't get the praise. It was better than the first time but I still think it's pretty crap. The pacing is really weird and the dialogue is awful....
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Isn't it time for James Robinson to get another go on Countdown ?
Replies: 8
Views: 1271

Re: Isn't it time for James Robinson to get another go on Countdown ?

James Robinson wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:46 pm
Well, I certainly wouldn't decline an invite, and it has been 10 years since the last time...

But, I have a feeling that "you know who" might have other ideas.... :roll: :roll:
Voldemort?
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 23, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)
Replies: 33
Views: 2967

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)

Is it Tim Morrissey? I had his name in mind anyway and that description sounds right. If so, "obscure enough"? And I thought you were a scholar of the game. Yes, it's Tim Morrissey. And yes, I had to look him up because I'm not Robbo. Are you saying I am? I didn't do any research for your question!
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:13 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)
Replies: 33
Views: 2967

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)

Is it Tim Morrissey? I had his name in mind anyway and that description sounds right.

If so, "obscure enough"? And I thought you were a scholar of the game.
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Jan 22, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: The CoC Predictions Game
Replies: 81
Views: 13966

Re: The CoC Predictions Game

At least I beat Graeme's random guesses!
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:50 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)
Replies: 33
Views: 2967

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 22nd January 2019 (CoC XV, Grand Final)

Has Zarte always scored over a hundred in his Countdown 'career' ? He got 81 against Dylan Taylor in the first part of his "career". But anyway, great game, great series. Well done to Zarte, Bradley and the rest. Maybe a grudge match special between Dylan and Zarte would be a good idea, especially ...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:18 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: The CoC Predictions Game
Replies: 81
Views: 13966

Re: The CoC Predictions Game

Just looking at the scoring for today's game, it does seem strange that you get 50 points (plus whatever you get for margins) for predicting Ann Dibben to beat Tom Chafer-Cook, whereas you get -75 if neither of your players are in the game. I actually kind of assumed that you would only get the win ...
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:58 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey
Replies: 10
Views: 1769

Re: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey

Callum Todd wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:53 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
Survey done.
I gathered. Some of those comments could only have been written by one person.
Really? Mine was the one that said "Yay! A goatdown tournament!" with lots of smileys after it.
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:58 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: The CoC Predictions Game
Replies: 81
Views: 13966

Re: The CoC Predictions Game

Ah, I've only just noticed that incorrect predictions have been interpreted as a scale rather than a number... is this right? For instance, Jen's predicted a 17-point win for Stephen against 'Maus, but there's an argument to say this should be interpreted as "2 away + incorrect result" (36 pts), no...
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey
Replies: 10
Views: 1769

Re: Goatdown event 2020 - a survey

Survey done.
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:26 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)
Replies: 19
Views: 2589

Re: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)

I thought Philip seemed a bit more subdued than usual in this game, like Zarte had given him a pre-match punch in the face. But at the end he was perfectly fine about the whole thing, so that's probably not what actually happened.
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:58 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)
Replies: 19
Views: 2589

Re: Spoilers for Friday 18th January 2019 (COC XV, SF 1)

On this historic anniversary of another COC rematch (Jen hammering Callum uta) we have the second non-special threematch in history. Zarte obviously leads Philip 2-0 so far, but what will happen in this incarnation? Indeed, this is only the 2nd time in 21 years that the two same players has had to ...
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:43 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

Jon Corby wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 11:39 am
146 is a different record really, as it’s a different format.
Yes.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

(But anyway, I did enjoy that game. It was decent enough.) I did think it was funny that Susie thought TIRAMISUS might have been slightly contentious though. The restaurant rule is so deeply ingrained into Countdown culture that I don't think anyone else would have wondered about whether the plural ...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

Zarte Siempre wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:53 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:48 pm
What? Your quoting function obviously doesn't work.
Bit like your hiding the edit you just made function.
If you must know, I was on my mobile with my fat thumbs.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:48 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

Zarte Siempre wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:34 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:22 pm
If Zarte had been any good he good have got 168.

Sure. But preferably someone who can say it without fucking it up

"any good he good"

Waste.
What? Your quoting function obviously doesn't work.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 17, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

If Zarte had been any good he could have got 168.

Someone needed to say it.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)
Replies: 40
Views: 3019

Re: Re: Spoilers for Thursday 17th January 2019 (COC XV, QF 4)

Nice to see Conor Travers in the audience sitting behind Laverty.
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:53 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Replies: 59
Views: 23512

Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019

Up to 45 now with the addition of COLIN I veteran Anthony Endsor! We are actually in danger of maybe needing some more sets... Judging by Anthony's sense of direction, you might want to post a set to the capital of Nebraska. :o It happened! It finally happened! Someone found a use for knowing the U...
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Friday 11th January 2019 (COC XV, Game 8)
Replies: 10
Views: 1909

Re: Spoilers for Friday 11th January 2019 (COC XV, Game 8)

Adam Dexter wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:46 am
Is there a prize for doing well based on your seeding? I could claim to have been playing the long game if so.
Did this go in the wrong place?
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:48 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Politics in General
Replies: 453
Views: 60550

Re: Politics in General

Sadly, yes. The Labour antisemitism thing keeps rumbling on. At first, I thought the Lab leadership was being nice but dim and not understanding, but given some of the things Corbyn has said I'm not sure. The problem is that a lot of people conflate "Israel" and "Jews" since Israel is the only Jewi...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: New Episodes of 8/10 Cats Does Countdown
Replies: 7
Views: 5682

Re: New Episodes of 8/10 Cats Does Countdown

There was a Christmas special as well, presumably still online.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 10th January 2019 (COC XV, game 7)
Replies: 13
Views: 1822

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 10th January 2019 (COC XV, game 7)

"AEROGEL" "Sorry, what the fuck? I've never encountered that word before, nor have I ever heard a Scottish person speak." That was a bit weird. Susie had trouble understanding my declarations at times (LIPASE eg). Your point is? It just seemed quite clear to me, and I was surprised she struggled wi...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
Replies: 534
Views: 84105

Re: Questions you've always wanted answered

My laptop just said that the printer was in error mode. But it works now anyway.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 10th January 2019 (COC XV, game 7)
Replies: 13
Views: 1822

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 10th January 2019 (COC XV, game 7)

"AEROGEL"

"Sorry, what the fuck? I've never encountered that word before, nor have I ever heard a Scottish person speak."

That was a bit weird.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:44 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
Replies: 534
Views: 84105

Re: Questions you've always wanted answered

It is wireless and we've had it for ages. It normally works fine.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:01 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
Replies: 534
Views: 84105

Re: Questions you've always wanted answered

Why did my printer refuse to print out the thing I wanted to yesterday and then work first time today? I turned off/on my laptop and the printer several times yesterday but nothing seemed to work. Printers should have no concept of days. Turning it off and then on again five seconds later should hav...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:27 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Replies: 59
Views: 23512

Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019

Seedings are based on averages of finishing positions from the previous 5 events (which all had more or less the same number of participants). Slightly worse news is that most prospective unconfirmed sign-ups are likely to slot in in the top 12. And you put new players in the middle don't you? Yep....
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:20 pm
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: The Return of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Replies: 29
Views: 7152

Re: The Return of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire

I always used to joke that they were at the back if the studio back when it was first on. :lol: :lol: :lol: That's a belter. This was 20 years ago. Jokes weren't as funny then. I basically invented the joke. What would you charge for an incorrect answer then? Come on, I want a proper agreement here...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: The Return of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
Replies: 29
Views: 7152

Re: The Return of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire

I always used to joke that they were at the back if the studio back when it was first on.

But anyway, you could charge for an incorrect answer. But you also have to take into account things like "I'm 90% sure it's A and 10% B."
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:34 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Replies: 59
Views: 23512

Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019

Ben Wilson wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:50 am
Seedings are based on averages of finishing positions from the previous 5 events (which all had more or less the same number of participants). Slightly worse news is that most prospective unconfirmed sign-ups are likely to slot in in the top 12.
And you put new players in the middle don't you?
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Replies: 59
Views: 23512

Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019

Time for the usual outrage that are the provisional seedings. :-) I've used the same 'algorithm' to determine seedings as I did last year, hence why it looks like there may be a few anomalies in there. But it all makes sense, honest. 1 Jack Worsley [snip] 28 Tim Down [snip] 38 Mark Mills No outrage...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Replies: 59
Views: 23512

Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019

Mike Springett beat me to it in the Facebook discussion, but obviously there will be a parkrun happening as well on this weekend.
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:55 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
Replies: 534
Views: 84105

Re: Questions you've always wanted answered

Well I suppose I meant that it all seems a bit rubbish by "hard to get".
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
Replies: 534
Views: 84105

Re: Questions you've always wanted answered

Why is good vegan chocolate so hard to get? Obviously milk chocolate has milk in and they need to substitute it in some way, but I don't really see why milk should be an integral part of chocolate. People have milk chocolate because dark chocolate can be a bit too bitter and not quite human-friendly...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:28 pm
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: Countdowners On Other Quizzes
Replies: 182
Views: 52843

Re: Countdowners On Other Quizzes

Marc Meakin wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:42 am
Jon Stitcher on Who Wants to be a Millionaire
Last night
How did he do? I need you to tell me everything.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 2 January 2019 (COC XV, game 1)
Replies: 16
Views: 2117

Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 2 January 2019 (COC XV, game 1)

Thomas Carey wrote:
Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:51 am
It's COC time! And kicking us off we have the guy who succeeded where I failed, series 73 wynner Jonathan Wynn versus thankfully not my local MP, series 78 semi finalist Phil Davies.
You're not going to believe this, but Jonathan Wynn isn't my local MP, so between us we've got them both covered!
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Coincidence
Replies: 217
Views: 37574

Re: Coincidence

William Tunstall-Pedoe did my local parkrun yesterday, and then followed it up by doing a second parkrun at my second nearest (you can do two parkruns on New Year's Day). Who? William Tunstall-Pedoe is who!