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by Gavin Chipper
Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:38 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)
Replies: 23
Views: 2498

Re: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)

Well not really - if you're past the point at which anyone else can make it, it's just formality. Although after Annie dropping out a few series back, someone ought to check the 8 with someone who was there each time. Well I suppose it's that the thread popped up as soon as we couldn't get a ninth ...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Celebrations - a ranking
Replies: 32
Views: 2617

Re: Celebrations - a ranking

Literally just copied the spelling off the poll. And I put Malteaser bottom because that was the thing I voted for in the poll. If Malteser was in the poll I would have voted for that.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:28 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Celebrations - a ranking
Replies: 32
Views: 2617

Re: Celebrations - a ranking

I think they're all decent actually. I put Galaxy Caramel top and ended up putting Malteaser bottom, but mainly because I can't remember exactly what it's like. All the others are miniatures of proper bars, whereas the Malteaser Celebration isn't a mini Malteaser. It's its own separate thing, and as...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:23 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Celebrations - a ranking
Replies: 32
Views: 2617

Re: Celebrations - a ranking

Matt Morrison wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:40 pm
Not answering as I was prepared to rank bar mitzvahs and half-birthday parties.
You can do that here.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)
Replies: 23
Views: 2498

Re: Series 79 Finals Predictions (Contains Spoilers!)

David Williams wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:29 pm
Ryan Lam wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:06 pm
So, with just six Preliminaries of Series 79 yet to air as of the time of writing, we now know who are the final eight
The existence of this thread before the preliminaries are over is itself a spoiler.
This has been mentioned in previous series as well!
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Monday 3rd December 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 112)
Replies: 7
Views: 1126

Re: Spoilers for Monday 3rd December 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 112)

Was a shame that Pete's 3L were not up to scratch unlike Julie's but I must commend him on his spot-on 6 small skills, including the impressive last spot. Made for good viewing. I'm actually astonished how he could do those 6 smalls without being able to do the 3 larges at all. Maybe it wasn't a re...
by Gavin Chipper
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Welcome! - Post here first
Replies: 1908
Views: 160510

Re: Welcome! - Post here first

It's basically half a year per series isn't it? And whatever weekdays aren't taken up by something else.
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:08 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 328
Views: 64248

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

In other news, David Hilton has been added to the list with his time of 23:07. He's only done one parkrun and thinks he can challenge 20 minutes though, so it will be interesting to see that. Also, I've improved by one second since the last update, to 18:15 at the Hackney Marshes parkrun. I was on f...
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 328
Views: 64248

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

The final CO-event of the year was at Birmingham, and I (and no-one else relevant) did the Cannon Hill parkrun. I actually slipped over on their special non-stick surface in the rain and jogged round for most of it. With 707 runners in total, here are the results : 285. Gevin Chapwell - 25:15 (50 po...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:02 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for 26th November 2018
Replies: 15
Views: 1654

Re: Spoilers for 26th November 2018

According to some personal comments made by Andrew towards some which I have seen, Jacob was quite an unnerving character- maybe it was something that had been said backstage. Seemed very harsh on first glance but would not go as far to saying it was a callous act knowing the context. Jacob? You me...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:19 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 28th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 109)
Replies: 5
Views: 920

Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 28th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 109)

Fred Mumford wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:49 pm
Why do so many people insist on pronouncing HOMAGE as if they are pretentious or French? It's "hommidge" ffs.
I'm just amazed that people still miss HOMAGE and go for IMAGE. Do they not learn?
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for 26th November 2018
Replies: 15
Views: 1654

Re: Spoilers for 26th November 2018

Something that I'm surprised that no-one has picked up on is that the champion Andrew Jackson picked 6 small in round 9 when he was 60-0 up. As the resident forum psychopath , I can recognise a psychopathic act when I see one. It's not even as if he normally does this. He's always gone for 1-large i...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:38 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What films have you watched lately?
Replies: 229
Views: 49910

Re: What films have you watched lately?

Watched Arrival. It was alright. It was a bit dreary in terms of the colour pallete, very un sci-fi like. And it went a bit weird in the end in the same way Interstellar did where it strays more into the fi than the sci. Still worth the watch. Amy Adams is always good. I found that this was one of ...
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: apterous.org
Topic: Countdown Alphabet
Replies: 23
Views: 2117

Re: Countdown Alphabet

Thomas Carey wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:32 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote:
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:40 am
Thomas Carey wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:18 am
yeah, nice one Toby, got the opinion (lmao) but missed a few of the cons, literally just swap the last 4 letters on the one you missed
What is the opinion?
solve the conundrums, read the op and find out
But it doesn't seem to be "live" any more so it's time to post the solutions!
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:40 am
Forum: apterous.org
Topic: Countdown Alphabet
Replies: 23
Views: 2117

Re: Countdown Alphabet

Thomas Carey wrote:
Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:18 am
yeah, nice one Toby, got the opinion (lmao) but missed a few of the cons, literally just swap the last 4 letters on the one you missed
What is the opinion?
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Thursday 22nd November (Series 79, Prelim 105)
Replies: 10
Views: 1734

Re: Spoilers for Thursday 22nd November (Series 79, Prelim 105)

It seems someone didn't realise F1 would take up Friday's slot. Why they chose to move it to Saturday, I've no idea. There were probably limited options. I mean, there's Saturday, Sunday... Does anyone know why countdown's on tomorrow? Usually if it's not on on a Friday they just wait till Monday I...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Cos onion goggles are a thing. We have some here. Jen has some. That's at least 3 of us. Will you please just begin to accept that it's you that are the fundamental outlier of society and that you shouldn't speak as the voice of reason ;) Haha, maybe you're right, but I certainly don't think onion ...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

To expand on this further, I'm not sure it's really about empathy anyway. There are a lot of things where people are like "OMG, this is like so amazeballs", and I'm like "Yeah, it's OK" and quite often these are things that have nothing to do with human emotions. For example, Jono's ridiculous reac...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:16 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

Marc Meakin wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:57 pm
The question to ask Gavin is when was the last time you cried ?
Dunno. But it can happen. It also depends on how you define crying - does it have to be full on streaming tears or does a bit of welling up in the eyes that doesn't make it down your face count?
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:14 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

No, I think it's about empathy. You have many good traits, you're funny, you're clever, I could go on. But I've often thought that you're incapable of imagining any other position than your own, if that makes sense? This is a good thing in some ways (for instance, it makes you quite formidable in a...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

This isn't even about being unwilling to show emotion. I think it's more about not forming a particularly strong emotional attachment to a fictional character you first encountered half an hour ago. No, I think it's about empathy. You have many good traits, you're funny, you're clever, I could go o...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

I don't know if this is just me, but some of the reactions that some people on here have to some television programmes is completely alien to me. I'm never "in bits" after watching anything, and to be honest I find it a little bit weird. Am I the weird one? I used to be like that when I was much yo...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:43 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Marc Meakin wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 4:55 am
Some more from me
Teapot.
Tumble Drier
Dishwasher
Onion Goggles
Garlic press
Cos onion goggles are a thing.
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

I don't know if this is just me, but some of the reactions that some people on here have to some television programmes is completely alien to me. I'm never "in bits" after watching anything, and to be honest I find it a little bit weird. Am I the weird one?
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:41 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Pizza cutter? Ridiculous suggestion. I think this was a really good suggestion, and I daresay nearly everyone here has a pizza wheel or a dedicated pizza cutter in a different geometric shape. You're the dick here. I'm not having this. What do you even mean by a dedicated pizza cutter in a differen...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

I have never owned an umbrella. An umbrella is a device which deflects rain coming only from directly above you. This, together with its tendency to flip inside out and/or act as a sail, makes it largely useless in even a moderate wind. (Funnily enough, wind and rain often go together.) Even when i...
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:05 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: A load of old tats
Replies: 17
Views: 2316

Re: A load of old tats

I'd like a tattoo but don't think there's anything worthwhile enough to justify the lifelong commitment. Open to suggestions though. This seems back to front. I can more understand someone saying "I think this would look good on me but I'm not sure I want to be scarred for life." But you're saying ...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Pizza cutter? Ridiculous suggestion. I think this was a really good suggestion, and I daresay nearly everyone here has a pizza wheel or a dedicated pizza cutter in a different geometric shape. You're the dick here. I'm not having this. What do you even mean by a dedicated pizza cutter in a differen...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Maybe the tattoo question should have its own thread because in the last twenty years or so it's becoming quite common Agree with Gevin it's not a good suggestion for this thread. Hang your head in shame. But then raise your head again because this is a great new thread. I bet there are some intere...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

Marc Meakin wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:35 pm
I want to add Jewellery of any sort.
Also no tattoos, not sure if you 'own ' them though
I don't think either of these is rare. Certainly most people don't have tattoos. And it might depend on how you define jewellery. E.g. I have medals from running events. Do I therefore own jewellery?
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:47 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
Replies: 58
Views: 3411

Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason

I'm not impressed by comb. Do most people really have combs? It's just a poor man's hairbrush. Lots of people don't even drive so not having a car is no big deal. Social skills and life - well certainly on a Countdown forum it's no big deal. Pizza cutter? Ridiculous suggestion. I've had slippers sin...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 13, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: Countdowners On Other Quizzes
Replies: 182
Views: 48780

Re: Countdowners On Other Quizzes

Matt Morrison wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:47 pm
Thought you meant Ashwin Shah for a minute.
:o
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: Countdowners On Other Quizzes
Replies: 182
Views: 48780

Re: Countdowners On Other Quizzes

As well as Ashwin Abinashi, John Clarke from the 80s is on 15 to 1 right now.

Edit - And I saw Andrew "Quichehead"* Sullivan.

*Or whatever that middle name he uses on Facebook is.
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:55 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Greatest Ever Sportsman?
Replies: 126
Views: 10033

Re: Greatest Ever Sportsman?

I think boxers know the risks before taking up the sport as do Motor sport drivers/riders. By all means do anything necessary to make its as safe as possible but banning the sport will drive it underground I think there's a difference between a sport where there is a risk of injury and a sport wher...
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Can I go back on Countdown after 10 years?
Replies: 18
Views: 4797

Re: Can I go back on Countdown after 10 years?

M. George Quinn wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:17 am
Yusss! I've spent 10 years off the forum, too. Just to be on the safe side.
You did make a brief comeback in 2016 though.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Formula One venues you've been to
Replies: 5
Views: 2613

Re: Formula One venues you've been to

I'll start. I've been to F1 races at Brands Hatch, Silverstone, Singapore, and Austin, Texas. But I've also been to Donington Park for non-F1 racing, Zandvoort in the Netherlands randomly when there wasn't a race on, and I've been to Caesar's Palace hotel in Las Vegas, although the specific car par...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Greatest Ever Sportsman?
Replies: 126
Views: 10033

Re: Greatest Ever Sportsman?

I concur again with Bradman. I find this weird. I don't think I could say who the greatest ever sportsman would be, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't choose a cricketer. Cricket doesn't test athletic abilities in any meaningful way and one person's influence over the team performance is only ever goin...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:33 pm
Forum: Countdown - Events
Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
Replies: 328
Views: 64248

Re: CO:parkrun Recaps

I improved my overall PB from 18:22 to 18:16 at Maldon parkrun on Saturday. Not a massive improvement, but I think there are much faster courses than Maldon, and I'm now confident of finding one of these courses and going under 18 minutes without having to improve any further (although I will improv...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:02 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 6th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 93)
Replies: 11
Views: 1188

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 6th November 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 93)

Good game today. I thought Chris might become an octochamp, but this Kiwi guy looks fairly decent too.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:16 pm
Forum: Other game shows
Topic: Countdowners On Other Quizzes
Replies: 182
Views: 48780

Re: Countdowners On Other Quizzes

I can definitely see it.
by Gavin Chipper
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Countdown - General
Topic: Can I go back on Countdown after 10 years?
Replies: 18
Views: 4797

Re: Can I go back on Countdown after 10 years?

I believe the official rule is no, but then again there are several returnees in recent years, so much so that it has de facto become such a rule. I would personally leave at least 15-20 years between appearances, and I am very surprised Zarte was allowed back on. *shrug* I was surprised too. There...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

this episode was basically just incoherent noise from the derailing of the series 1 episode onwards. It was just silly and there was nothing there to "believe" anyway. I agree that once we realised what had happened in the first ten minutes was intentional and that what we were watching was all scr...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

I can understand that there might have been some people who thought they were genuinely showing that episode from the first series but then when it suddenly went "weird", that was it. But that was over ten minutes in, by which time apparently a fifth of viewers had switched off. And I can't see how...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:36 pm
Forum: apterous.org
Topic: Is Apterous down?
Replies: 513
Views: 122112

Re: Is Apterous down?

The site is effectively down for Hallowe'en as usual.
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:19 am
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

A lot of people turned off when the gremlins happened so some people believed it was real. You generally have to suspend belief when watching a horror film/program. If you analyse it you ain't enjoying it. I mean how can a go pro camera suddenly be broadcast. I enjoyed it Fwiw but was a bit peeved ...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Replies: 389
Views: 70338

Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?

I will let you know No need, I already know the answer. The fact that it's available on catch-up at all means the twist doesn't work. Should still be an enjoyable watch though. Completely forgot about it until I saw it mentioned in this thread. Quickly noped out for the avoidance of spoilers but ye...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:02 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Monday 29th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 87)
Replies: 9
Views: 1163

Re: Spoilers for Monday 29th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 87)

Owen Carroll wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:30 pm
Well done to Georgia. She could give us another octochamp
I don't think she was terrible or anything, but I think she'd need to use that game as a starting point to improve upon.
by Gavin Chipper
Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 24th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 84)
Replies: 7
Views: 1247

Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 24th October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 84)

Normless being a super spot too! I was watching the episode on my phone and when Susie said it was in, I burst out into laughter! :lol: After the show when I checked Lexplorer I was like "So it is a word..." If there was a UK compilation of Dumb Luck in gameshows, this would definitely make the cut...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Do you think it is wrong ?
Replies: 16
Views: 1913

Re: Do you think it is wrong ?

The only thing that is used to counter potential upsets is the five point penalty per word challenge. In some American tournaments you lose your turn for an incorrect challenge, which is harsh. The 5 point penalty worked against me yesterday as one of my opponents played SALTIER then later hooked a...
by Gavin Chipper
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:46 am
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 23rd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 83)
Replies: 6
Views: 1155

Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 23rd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 83)

The challenger really struggled with the numbers there.
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:13 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Do you think it is wrong ?
Replies: 16
Views: 1913

Re: Do you think it is wrong ?

...last letters round, I'm 40 points ahead, the first eight letters are NNSTRIEO... You didn't need to go to the 8th letter - what kind of amateur picks five consonants to start, and not some permutation of 4C 3V from the first seven? Back to topic, I'm not aware of any rating system which is parti...
by Gavin Chipper
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Do you think it is wrong ?
Replies: 16
Views: 1913

Re: Do you think it is wrong ?

I'm not sure I really see the problem. Surely the Scrabble rating system should be robust enough to deal with the occasional freak result. And how likely is it really that some randomer will beat a world-class player anyway? And even if their rating drops, surely it will pick up again soon enough. A...
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Greatest Ever Sportsman?
Replies: 126
Views: 10033

Re: Greatest Ever Sportsman?

Mo Farah has a very good championship record at 5000m and 10000m but what holds him back is his lack of top times.

Hamilton wouldn't probably come top in most people's list of all-time F1 drivers, let alone all sports.
by Gavin Chipper
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:59 pm
Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
Topic: Spoilers for Monday 22nd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 82)
Replies: 12
Views: 1423

Re: Spoilers for Monday 22nd October 2018 (Series 79, Prelim 82)

Toby McDonald wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:38 pm
According to Susie, are we now disallowing GOATIER and GOATIEST?
Should be fairly clear cut. They'd have to be specified.
by Gavin Chipper
Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:54 pm
Forum: Off-topic
Topic: Greatest Ever Sportsman?
Replies: 126
Views: 10033

Re: Greatest Ever Sportsman?

Fair point in its way, but then if you only include sports that all the world plays, are you left with anything but athletics and football? And possibly not even football, given the almost total lack of interest in China and India? You've reminded me of something I saw ages ago. Someone (in America...