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- Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:34 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
would have been at least another one if he didn't get crocodile lol my brain completely froze. I did get the answer to every other con all day bar one (and was beaten in a buzzer race to the other) so was just a freak incident - no need to rewrite the books on it. I do agree at moving a table number...
- Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:09 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:LON 2025 - Countdown in London - 12th April 2025
- Replies: 20
- Views: 31600
Re: CO:LON 2025 - Countdown in London - 12th April 2025
Gonna head to Waterloo brewdog from 5ish today if anybody interested I'm a beverage tonight
- Wed Apr 02, 2025 2:00 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Unpopular opinions you genuinely hold
- Replies: 514
- Views: 454900
Re: Unpopular opinions you genuinely hold
Buskers should be banned from public spaces. Should move to open mic nights where people who might want to listen to shite reside
- Tue Mar 25, 2025 11:12 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Atropine Suggestion Box
- Replies: 22
- Views: 10658
Re: Atropine Suggestion Box
Absolutely!!Matthew Brockwell wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 9:31 pm I think a nice feature would be to able to see the standings after 2,4,6 etc games to see how the leaderboard changed throughout the day. Only the current leaderboard is displayed at the moment.
- Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:05 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN v FOCAL finals poll
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2363
Re: COLIN v FOCAL finals poll
I don't think its remotely close. Lincoln is the king of the events for prestige to go to but to win it's blatantly winning the top 8 prize at the focal finals. Even just competing in the top 8 is an achievement - it isn't an achievement to play at lincoln (maybe you could see it as a right of passa...
- Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:39 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Events attendance and cost discussion
- Replies: 17
- Views: 5289
Re: Co-Events attendance and cost discussion
Although there is one additional point RE cost. Please event hosts ALWAYS check hotel costs before you okay the exact event date. Durham last year with the gala, liverpool this year, glasgow last year. Sometimes shit is going on and hotels spike. Checking this should always be done and if they spike...
- Sat Feb 22, 2025 4:37 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Events attendance and cost discussion
- Replies: 17
- Views: 5289
Re: Co-Events attendance and cost discussion
Quite simply it feels like there's just so many events right now. I am really busy which doesn't help things but three events in five weeks (liv,ox,rug) is quite excessive. I signed up to liverpool last year but probably wouldn't have gone if I'd known of the whole calender before hand i'd have prio...
- Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:07 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co:Liv III - Saturday 15 February 2025
- Replies: 17
- Views: 15982
Re: Co:Liv III - Saturday 15 February 2025
Is anyone thinking about coming but holding back for any reason? Cheers Just did a 3 tourney weekeneder @ CoLin and I am still recovering. Also it's the day after valentines day and I didn't want to bugger off to the other end of the country to leave my partner alone. could have brought her, nothin...
- Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:39 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Poll: When Did You Start Watching Countdown?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 27595
Re: Poll: When Did You Start Watching Countdown?
watched bits as a kid but can't recall anything, then I watched halfway through series 82 during lockdown and just insta applied
- Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
Good morning folks, For those not at Milton Keynes, you might not be aware of the announcement, so here I am to explain. As you'll know, Darren decided to step down as Chair, and you voted for who you'd like to replace him. Thank you to all the organisers who took part in the vote, but now comes al...
- Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:23 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: FOCAL Finals and MK Open - 30th November 2024
- Replies: 15
- Views: 24953
Re: FOCAL Finals and MK Open - 30th November 2024
Well ran event, congrats jack and congrats to callum
- Tue Nov 05, 2024 9:31 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Names for a Countdown/Apterous-themed band
- Replies: 29
- Views: 11576
Re: Names for a Countdown/Apterous-themed band
Dictionary Update To Remember
A C,VC
AileronDMC
A C,VC
AileronDMC
- Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:13 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
I think yesterday showed even with the buzzer app - just split the room for conundrums [[for bristol]] so people can judge them. There were multiple weird happenings that could have used an independent person to judge across the room. They all happened in games where players amicably sorted it out ,...
- Fri Nov 01, 2024 12:27 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: You Are The Ref
- Replies: 377
- Views: 352277
Re: You Are The Ref
The final conundrum should be set before knowing who the finalists are going to be, no? And yeah, just say nothing, otherwise you’ll influence the player(s) pre-conundrum and that wouldn’t be fair. It’s like telling someone on Millionaire that we have no history questions for you because you recent...
- Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
- Replies: 1802
- Views: 1826330
Re: Questions you've always wanted answered
Why at football matches when there is added time does the clock stick at 45/90 and just have +5 on the side, but it doesn't show the updated time. Everybody would want to see oh its the 93rd minute now 2 minutes left, but they just simply don't show it. Do the clocks not work? Is this a deliberate ...
- Wed Oct 23, 2024 1:56 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: What minor crimes are you willing to confess to here?
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9099
Re: What minor crimes are you willing to confess to here?
far too many minor crimes by members of this community
- Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:02 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Post Blackpool and FOCAL bits
- Replies: 66
- Views: 34530
Re: Post Blackpool and FOCAL bits
Whilst I agree it sounds like a sensible idea to have a door person, it is a barrier to event organisation - it requires an extra volunteer, who by the nature of their duties can't also be helping with putting out tables/other setup tasks. How long do they stay there for? Can they also play? What i...
- Wed Oct 16, 2024 7:57 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Post Blackpool and FOCAL bits
- Replies: 66
- Views: 34530
Re: Post Blackpool and FOCAL bits
I think hosts having first aid training should be something that is enforced after this. We can't always get lucky and have a doctor on stand by. I know likely most events will have somebody with first aid training on board, but host is usually first person there, an issue where first aid is needed ...
- Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:05 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
- Replies: 1802
- Views: 1826330
Re: Questions you've always wanted answered
Why at football matches when there is added time does the clock stick at 45/90 and just have +5 on the side, but it doesn't show the updated time. Everybody would want to see oh its the 93rd minute now 2 minutes left, but they just simply don't show it. Do the clocks not work? Is this a deliberate ...
- Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:32 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Questions you've always wanted answered
- Replies: 1802
- Views: 1826330
Re: Questions you've always wanted answered
Why at football matches when there is added time does the clock stick at 45/90 and just have +5 on the side, but it doesn't show the updated time. Everybody would want to see oh its the 93rd minute now 2 minutes left, but they just simply don't show it. Do the clocks not work? Is this a deliberate p...
- Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:15 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown Lookalikes?
- Replies: 408
- Views: 396008
Re: Countdown Lookalikes?
https://christianindex.org/stories/nobe ... ding,92881
phil hannan just won a nobel prize
phil hannan just won a nobel prize
- Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:13 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
I like all of you, but it's pretty bonkers that I see you all more often on an annual basis than I see my own family members. I always find points like this beyond bonkers. Of course you see people doing something that is a large part of your social life more than you see some of your own family me...
- Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:14 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-event numbers rounds adjudication policy
- Replies: 11
- Views: 7854
Re: Co-event numbers rounds adjudication policy
My approach going forward if my opponent if nwd, is going to be to write it down as they say it (which I already do) but tell them I am doing that and make sure they are looking at what I'm writing (they are saying) and if they disagree with it to say at the time! But yeah it is tricky especially i...
- Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:55 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
It's quite an exciting conclusion with who makes top 8 with it being 8 wins this year. I do think in future years there's merit to moving it up to best 10 results just because the calendar is much larger. Not for this year though of course, this year has a genuinely exciting conclusion (can't wait t...
- Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:14 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
I guess my main suggestion now would be to go back to 6 rounds as opposed to 8 in lincoln. I know i'm part of the problem why it became 8 but 8 every now and then is better than 8 as the norm. Blackpool was refreshing with 6, I've actively started to feel myself enjoying it less with the more games ...
- Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:10 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Things you get a bit weird about
- Replies: 24
- Views: 8543
Re: Things you get a bit weird about
When there's a cheers, you all clink glasses and then someone immediately puts their drink down without taking a sip. Infuriating and I can't even justify why!
- Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:35 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: c-index
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7154
Re: c-index
My instinct is that octochamp will always win though. I don't feel like there's often more than 4 or 5 people at any one event with the same name. But there's normally more than 4 or 5 octochamps at every co-event. You'd be surprised. this year the octochamps have started demolishing but there were...
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:58 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:parkrun Recaps
- Replies: 698
- Views: 604588
Re: CO:parkrun Recaps
bonus points for chris marshall for doing a 9 letter park run surely
- Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:44 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: c-index
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7154
Re: c-index
I think 2 London, about 3 St Albans and about 3 Hangovers in North Hykeham. So my c-index is 2. About half of those were as observer rather than player. you haven't been since adam vs octochamp (what will there be more of at a co event) was vaguely a thing. Admittedly you'd be useless whether you t...
- Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
I thought the pointy cards for word length declarations worked brilliantly well at co:lon and should definitely be used going forward! (For those who weren't there, Phil had created an A4 sheet with left and right columns of Nothing - 9 and table number in the middle - players pointed to their word...
- Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:13 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:LON - 24th August 2024 - Countdown in London - sponsored by Word Game Geeks
- Replies: 30
- Views: 24825
Re: CO:LON - 24th August 2024 - Countdown in London - sponsored by Word Game Geeks
What happened to Matthew Tassier? I don't think I imagined talking to him but he's not in any results. Good question! He and Lynne were definitely there near the start, and they were announced as sign ups on the Facebook event, but then seem to have disappeared without playing. there was a personal...
- Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:34 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
- Replies: 828
- Views: 1009588
Re: What TV programmes have you been watching lately?
Love is blind is sensational - UK one just dropped.
If you love trash TV (which everybody should) then well worth it
If you love trash TV (which everybody should) then well worth it
- Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:40 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Minor things that annoy you more than they probably should
- Replies: 106
- Views: 50314
Re: Minor things that annoy you more than they probably should
I get so genuinely angry when someone doesn't indicate. It is the most effortless thing in the world to do. The rage I feel over this is not normal but if you're out there and don't indicate - please explain to me why (even if its an empty road, nobody around you yadayada). Out yourselves peasants.
- Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:49 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The Countdown Android App is now out!
- Replies: 166
- Views: 93352
Re: The Countdown Android App is now out!
Version 1.131 is now available which contains the updated dictionary! Just keep in mind if you are wanting to max out your score on the daily challenge today, it's possible the max might be higher before updating. From tomorrow for a few days all daily challenges with be numbers and conundrums only...
- Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:53 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
Can we make a hard rule that all bristol events do the split in conundrums in the room (half the room get one, half the room get the other) so every single table has somebody adjudicating a crucial? Like - we did it last time - but i really really really think this should be a rule that is enforced...
- Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:14 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-Event Suggestion Box
- Replies: 450
- Views: 314833
Re: Co-Event Suggestion Box
Can we make a hard rule that all bristol events do the split in conundrums in the room (half the room get one, half the room get the other) so every single table has somebody adjudicating a crucial?
Like - we did it last time - but i really really really think this should be a rule that is enforced
Like - we did it last time - but i really really really think this should be a rule that is enforced
- Mon Jul 29, 2024 3:13 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
- Replies: 32
- Views: 47135
Re: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
Correct, there is going to be no dictionary update until after Birmingham on the app. For full transparency, the update to the dictionary which added words like Altcoin and Frescoing is also absent from the app. So if Charlie does the Apterous update, and then somebody declares a word like that at ...
- Mon Jul 29, 2024 12:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
- Replies: 32
- Views: 47135
Re: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
Just to add that I've knocked together a standalone PC based word checker which can use either old or new dictionary for events where the dictionary does not match apterous. How would this work in lincoln style? Would be easy bristol but each table running across to pc based thing etc (tbf maybe im...
- Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
- Replies: 32
- Views: 47135
Re: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
:!: UPDATES REGARDING THE DICTIONARY CHANGE :!: As a result of the abrupt, drastic entry deletions administered by Oxford University Press on Monday, it has been decided that the next two FOCAL events — Goatdown in Birmingham, and Countdown in Birmingham — will continue to use the dictionary seen o...
- Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:54 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Ask Graeme?
- Replies: 1839
- Views: 1446384
Re: Ask Graeme?
https://www.apterous.org/viewgame.php?game=3431085&round=53049629#r53049629 Pencilled that after seeing Dan and Ahmed declare it in COC despite nearly being a clear and obvious words (muppets) Pretty sure mabati was declared in coc, then pencilled after filming by a coc player, then it aired for...
- Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:32 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
- Replies: 32
- Views: 47135
Re: Goat/Co:Brum 2024-Fri 02nd/Sat 03rd Aug
I assume on the day signs up are okay?
I have the goliath around that weekend so kind of depends if it's going well or not
I have the goliath around that weekend so kind of depends if it's going well or not
- Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:21 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Who is better: Carol Vorderman or Rachel Riley?
- Replies: 97
- Views: 64964
Re: Who is better: Carol Vorderman or Rachel Riley?
weird if this is still a debate btw The average series finalist would shit on Carol at the numbers The average COC finalist would be shit on by Rachel at the numbers. There's maybe 2 or 3 people who could even get close to Rachel. I'm not sure i can quantify the number of one's who would surpass Car...
- Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:25 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
- Replies: 23
- Views: 23880
Re: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
But why aren't we coming together to arrive at a viable long term solution to this that we can control that isn't totally dependent on Charlie? Well yes obviously this would be ideal. Shouldn't really ever go through one person but its just the way the community lies at the moment. Communication ac...
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:47 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: The C4C Football Thread
- Replies: 1303
- Views: 382567
Re: The C4C Football Thread
https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagu ... oin/9ezi6g
The link to the countdown fantasy football league
If you were in it last year and use same email you will be automatically entered
The link to the countdown fantasy football league
If you were in it last year and use same email you will be automatically entered
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:12 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
- Replies: 23
- Views: 23880
Re: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
Grey is in these days don't worry (it's just every other word that isn't)
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:48 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
- Replies: 23
- Views: 23880
Re: Word Checks at Co:Events using the Android App
I'd imagine we won't manage to update all these changes by brum so that should just exist with dictionary in current iterations on apto and the app. As soon as we have enough intel to make the update happen - and it updates on apto / the app then it should come into immediate effect (even if this is...
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:56 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 141
- Views: 60175
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
Nobody's ever going to get near Cillian/Tom/Elliott's points records without all the extra words are they? This whole era of Countdown will be looked back on like the few years of swimming where LZRs weren't banned I could see 154 going despite this actually - but I can't actually see anybody getti...
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:47 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 141
- Views: 60175
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
Yeah we aren't gonna agree on this in the slightest if you don't think that the CSW stuff is derailing so we can leave it there
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:35 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 141
- Views: 60175
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
It is nonsense - wildly changes susie's role as well who has that connection with Oxford (who is much more important to countdown than anyone on apterous), changes what 40 years + of the show connection just because the dictionary we use has had an update? CSW is just throw an S on anything and allo...
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:58 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 141
- Views: 60175
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
Do we have a FULL LIST of the words that'll be taken out? The ticket that that ticket links is just all of the As. This is gonna take a while Because it isn't necessarily every word in each of the lists like that "a" list. There's gonna be a majority taken out but not all, sifting through...
- Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:56 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 141
- Views: 60175
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
would be a good thing for apto tickets not to be derailed by csw agenda nonsense
- Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 16th July 2024 (Series 90, Heat 12)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6055
Spoilers for Tuesday 16th July 2024 (Series 90, Heat 12)
Fantastic game between two people who deserve to be finalists - even this early on.
Fiona appeared a long time ago here : https://wiki.apterous.org/Fiona_Willis
Was a great player then and doesn't look like she's skipped a beat
Fiona appeared a long time ago here : https://wiki.apterous.org/Fiona_Willis
Was a great player then and doesn't look like she's skipped a beat
- Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:29 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The X Has Not Appeared Since 18th June 2024
- Replies: 18
- Views: 10362
Re: The X Has Not Appeared Since 18th June 2024
doesn't feel like it's that long if its 18th june, like not too abnormal
- Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:38 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 28th June 2024 - Series 89 Grand Final
- Replies: 13
- Views: 5759
Re: Spoilers for Friday 28th June 2024 - Series 89 Grand Final
Scared of this being an absolute whitewash
If Michael does pull it off though and win then this will be the biggest upset ever in countdown (to win all three of those games and take the title)
No 9's yet for him either so obviously i'm backing my man all the way
If Michael does pull it off though and win then this will be the biggest upset ever in countdown (to win all three of those games and take the title)
No 9's yet for him either so obviously i'm backing my man all the way
- Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:38 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-event dictionary
- Replies: 38
- Views: 23210
Re: Co-event dictionary
If I don't get it done in time, since the changes are quite small, do you think having a slip of paper on each table with the new and removed words would be suitable substitute? Would just have to make sure that host has the slip not obviously visible to players during letters rounds (hide it under...
- Fri May 31, 2024 10:01 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-event dictionary
- Replies: 38
- Views: 23210
Re: Co-event dictionary
Jack - appreciate this isn't like a job thing but there's a dictionary update (very small one) coming on apto
https://www.apterous.org/ticket_view.php?ticket=6932
Will it be implement on app before oxford? It's only a lil one but clovers out + hammies in look useful
- Sun May 26, 2024 3:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:OX - 15th June 2024
- Replies: 31
- Views: 39695
Re: CO:OX - 15th June 2024
Someone's trying something new
If its shite don't try again
If its shite don't try again
- Thu May 23, 2024 7:32 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Best ways to improve your Countdowning skills...
- Replies: 30
- Views: 26171
Re: Best ways to improve your Countdowning skills...
It's 2024. What's the best resource to sharpen one's skills in the numbers rounds ? Tutorials/Guides/TIps/Tricks ? Any app ? Do the numbers backwards. For example, if the target is 876 (or 877 which means you can +1 at the end) you should immediately notice 8+7+6=21 and the target is even, so it ca...
- Thu May 16, 2024 7:57 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Best ever contestants
- Replies: 552
- Views: 555279
Re: Best ever contestants
If you wanted to throw co-events into the mix for 30BC vs CoC16 debate To date, since the CoC final aired: - 9 Co events won by 30BC Cohort - 3 Co events won by CoC16 Cohort Thats with CoC16 cohort generally outnumbering 30BC cohort at most events. see finishing positions of where those players who...
- Thu May 16, 2024 7:54 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Favourite Number Plays/Players
- Replies: 14
- Views: 6184
Re: Favourite Number Plays/Players
a great 6 small solve will always be better than a great 4 large solve for me. the most impressive 4 larges are just extensions of different formula. my half decent 4 large tv spot i had before the clock started. you cant get that with a genuinely good 6 small I think with 6-small it can be hard to...