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Elliott Mellor

Diana was murdered. JFK faked his own death. Elf is an awful movie, Will Ferrell is not funny. The Machines in the Matrix was right 1999 really was the best period and nothing since has bettered it. The NHS should be only for those on benefits everyone else should get health insurance. Glastonbury ...

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Rosalynn Carter. Two days after entering hospice care.

I guess she wasn't quite as good at it as her husband, who has been taking it in his stride since February.

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OK, so back to David Cameron. Rishi Sunak has literally just taken some guy off the street to be his foreign secretary. He is not an MP and was not in the House of Lords. It could have been you. It could have been me. It could have been Brian Cox (either of them). But it just happened to be David C...

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Also, the idea of prayers... - Supposedly "God gives us that which we need, not what we want" - There are millions of people praying for an end to the Russian-Ukraine war, and the Israel-Palestine conflict, yet they haven't been answered. Which leads one to the inescapable conclusion that ...

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From a Christian perspective, the reason the other religious texts vanished in pre-history is because they aren’t true. To quote a friend from my Bible study group when comparing versions, ‘we have the Bible God wants us have.’ Expand that out-we have the text God wants use to have. I’d have to dis...

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In terms of ‘meaningfulness of life’, people do find meaning in many things. I can see why people may think that religion existed because we didn’t have science. However, I would state that arguing there is no God is as big as a leap of faith as claiming there is a God. The Bible states that we are...

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 8:30 pm
Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:53 pm
Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:12 pm

Genuine, question.
Is there anything in the old testament that is based on fact?
I'm sure the new testament is fairly factual though
What would you classify as being factual within it?
Some of the jesus parts are true surely.
Also the apostles maybe

Which ones?

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:12 pm
Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:51 pm I suppose it doesn't matter too much. It's not like it's true...
Genuine, question.
Is there anything in the old testament that is based on fact?
I'm sure the new testament is fairly factual though

What would you classify as being factual within it?

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How can it be meaningful if it's false? Spending your one and only brief shot at life with the false hope of having a better afterlife seems a terrible waste. The best way to get meaning from life is the here and now - make your impact on the world a positive one (something you've definitely embrac...

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What in particular about Owen Jones? I dont like the cut of his jib. Like Piers Morgan whose politics are probably diametrically opposite of his, he strikes me as an arrogant, self serving, prick. About the only thing I agree with him on is that Kier Stamer will win the next election. The biggest s...

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Not sure if we've had this discussion before and it's probably got a simple answer anywhere but the talk of what external advantages a competitive sportsperson can gain are fair and which aren't always makes me think of the doping debate. High level competitive athletes do all sorts of things to gi...

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Everyone is different physically, and it seems inevitable that some clothing items will assist some athletes more than others. Recent research showed that a properly fitting running bra increased performance. Now I'm only speculating, but I imagine that this would benefit a larger breasted athlete ...

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Bradley making another appearance last night. This time, he had an item that I really wanted, but had decided that he was going to list it on eBay for £500, despite me telling him that this was a completely unrealistic price and also offering to buy it for a fair price. He didn't seem to care about ...

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I love the rare occasions when my subconscious decides to give me something worthwhile to contribute here. Last night's setting is a little bit unclear, but the broad plot is that I'm playing Jack Worsley in a best of 5 set match in the final of some elite tennis tournament (that might have only inv...

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Is there no intrinsic value in the activities one would undertake to achieve the award? Sure. Just like there's intrinsic value in the skills needed to master chess, solve a rubik's cube, or play a sport well. That's not up for contention. The point being made is it isn't anywhere near the "ma...

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The Duke of Edinburgh Award. Care to expand? As awards you can get when you're young go, seems reasonably on the non-joke side I'm on Gev's side with this one I think. At the very least, I think it's really overstated - it's packaged up as being this thing that looks incredible on your CV, but I re...

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I never said it was a witch hunt I was merely playing Devils advocate. Saying its sexual assault however denigrades real sexual assault like rape attempted rate and grabbing genitalia. Its morally wrong but I doubt a court of law would prosecute but his employer could and should sack him for not ap...

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He definitely handled it wrong, he has put losing face and being perceived as a sexual predator over a simple apology even if he gave a weak apology on the lines of I'm sorry you were offended by my actions, things wouldn't have gone so far Even allowing his mother to go on hunger strike has a poor...

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Could it possibly also be, given the somewhat ambiguous posts that they put out (which seemed to even imply that they may be planning to keep him), that they were trying to gauge the reaction if they were to retain him, and only after it has become clear that it was completely untenable for them to ...

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Thanks Phil. Luckily Waitrose does a reasonable range and I get a discount so that softens the financial blow. I often think your body tells you what it wants sometimes her favourite meal is still ham egg and chips. Though KFC is no longer an option for her but I will buy her gluten free burger bun...

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This is fun! Got to 306 after a few goes: MOTIVES, EXEDRA and GLUMLY being highlights and then managed to clear the board. Learned to value vowels since I always ran out and then couldn't clear with my pile of consonants. Not sure what dictionary they are using, but seems to accept a lot of wanky c...

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I said before the final that Alcaraz's best weapon today was that he was 16 years younger, and if he could get Djokovic moving a lot, he'd take it. It does feel like a turning point in history with this. Alcaraz really took that to Djokovic, and you could definitely see the age difference playing a ...

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I make it three wrong calls in the Wimbledon final so far (and it's not even the end of the second set), and two of them were more in than out. It's really time they addressed this issue, because fine margins count at this level and one error can make all the difference. I'm pretty sure that the cal...

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If a non player was taken off the street and went on a grass court and was offered the wager then I would say said person is most likely to lose but if Jono or Gevin was asked and they could choose a clay court and could spend a few days practising with a machine beforehand then my money is on eith...

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I still think it's a stretch for anyone who doesn't play tennis fairly competently, but I admire your optimism. If a non player was taken off the street and went on a grass court and was offered the wager then I would say said person is most likely to lose but if Jono or Gevin was asked and they co...

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I still think it's a stretch for anyone who doesn't play tennis fairly competently, but I admire your optimism.

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Another point is that a lot of the "best" returns of serve are essentially flukes. A hard first serve that could have won the point; the receiver just gets their racket to it but where it ends up is essentially random, and the court is big enough for it to be a reasonably likely landing p...

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This is a separate point though. I'm just saying that the person in this bet has this advantage of a quicker "reaction" time. This is surely objectively the case. I don't agree that the average person could react quickly enough, and coordinate making contact on the ball, on a serve of thi...

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A big advantage of someone in this bet over a professional tennis player is that they only have to return one ball, so if I was playing this I'd commit early to a position of where the ball might go each time using some pseudo-random mechanism. It doesn't matter that lots of the balls would end up ...

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A big advantage of someone in this bet over a professional tennis player is that they only have to return one ball, so if I was playing this I'd commit early to a position of where the ball might go each time using some pseudo-random mechanism. It doesn't matter that lots of the balls would end up ...

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I've played a bit of tennis for fun in my life. Not enough to know what facing a really good serve feels like. But I think that anyone vaguely sporty with a decent amount of hand eye co-ordination would be a big favourite in this bet. You get to learn on the job with pretty good feedback . I think ...

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For the record, I wouldn't put any money on Gevin to win this bet. But would you put money on me to lose? If you don't play tennis, I'd happily stake decent money on you not getting a single one back. I wouldn't even be confidently backing myself to get one (I'd feel I had enough of a chance that i...

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But anyway about £20. I think by chance most people would get at least one back. And £20 won't break the bank. I very strongly disagree that most people would, if you're including the large majority of the population who don't play tennis. You'd need a reasonable degree of experience to even have a...

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But anyway about £20. I think by chance most people would get at least one back. And £20 won't break the bank. I very strongly disagree that most people would, if you're including the large majority of the population who don't play tennis. You'd need a reasonable degree of experience to even have a...

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But anyway about £20. I think by chance most people would get at least one back. And £20 won't break the bank. I very strongly disagree that most people would, if you're including the large majority of the population who don't play tennis. You'd need a reasonable degree of experience to even have a...

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Why they don't use automatic hawkeye at Wimbledon when they clearly have the technology for it, and wrong calls are potentially influencing the outcomes of matches. It seems so daft when a ball is called out, and then commentary says "actually, hawkeye says that was in. He should have challenge...

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So back to the access to GP debacle. My daughter found a painless lump on her ribcage. I've had a poke at it and it is a definite lump. She left it a few days in case it disappeared on its own but it hasn't. She went through the online screening thing and was asked to upload a photo, which she did....

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Why is it that on a forum of several dozen members, half the topics seem to be created by one person? It seems to be the case on every forum I'm on. I'm sure there's some sort of law for it (similar to the square root law of the work force?) The Pareto Principle, there's some really fun examples of...

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Why is it that on a forum of several dozen members, half the topics seem to be created by one person? It seems to be the case on every forum I'm on. I'm sure there's some sort of law for it (similar to the square root law of the work force?)

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Absolutely super - great play from both, and there's certainly no shame to losing to an opponent of Ronan's calibre. Ronan has had quite a bit of hate in the past, but to see him achieving something that he always wanted to do is really heartening, and I don't think a single person can take away fro...

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why did evolution make mossie/midgie/other annoying insect bites itch? I'd be happy enough for mossies to feed off me if it didn't itch like a bastard afterwards. Must make them much more likely to get killed/swatted Maybe you've answered your own question there - it's your body's way of alerting y...

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Why do tennis players apologise when they hit a return and it clips the top of the net for a winner? For me, this is the equivalent of an in off the post in football, or a double in snooker, More like a fluke in snooker than a double A fluke is slightly different as it involves a degree of luck. A ...

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Yes but hitting your opponent with the is a legitimate play If you had a desire to play a sport where you could legally hit your opponent a lot then you'd pick boxing, not tennis. No tennis player would consider it a good tactic to try and smash the ball and hit the opponent. Not only does it make ...

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Yeah, it's the fluke thing. If a football goes in off the post it's not quite the same. It's just that someone has kicked the ball at the very edge of the acceptable range to score. A ball hitting the net and scraping over is completely unintended. A wicked deflection is the same as a fluke but tha...

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Why do tennis players apologise when they hit a return and it clips the top of the net for a winner? For me, this is the equivalent of an in off the post in football, or a double in snooker, It's just one of those "etiquette" things that seems to have been grandfathered in. A football pla...

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Because, truth be told, I don't really blame them for trying it on. The legacy of the expenses scandal was the introduction of IPSA - a rather useless organisation which is now meant to oversee all expenses claims and pay (including my own). It means MPs can't pay their staff obscenely, nor do we g...

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Pretty despicable he came out as gay as a way of legitimising his dubious relationship with the runner. I guess if it was a female runner he allegedly groomed he would be on the sex offenders register rather than be called 'brave' I'm not too well up with the story (because frankly I try and give a...

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Nice to get to see this one - Ronan composed himself very well today, and came across modestly even when he was absolutely storming away.

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Loved the 731 method, even if 732 was on (740-8 was on too).

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That kid back again

ABEYING available in the ABASING/GAINSAY round.

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Reminds me of a guy at uni who was incredibly proud that he had "mastered" masturbation by reducing it down to an exercise in barebones efficiency. Soft (like "oh, here's an idea out of the blue" soft) to finished in considerably less than a minute I recall. Not sure it was real...

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Is the UK really majority atheist? I'm not sure it is. Less than half said they were Christian in the census , but no religion was only 37.2%. It can depend on how the question is asked though. Some people identify as the religion of their parents without necessarily actually believing the actual t...

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The reports of how much money they generate don't ever seem to factor in what percentage of that is due to actually having a monarchy vs people who want to see the historical sites. You wouldn't suddenly get zero revenue if you abolished the monarchy. You'd get swathes of people still coming to see ...

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I think its because I'm getting older and more reflective. Also anything that pissss off Liverpool supporters I'm all for. Also the yanks are jealous of our monarchy So basically you're in favour of anything that annoys groups you dislike, even if that costs hundreds of millions a year in a Britain...

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I think its because I'm getting older and more reflective. Also anything that pissss off Liverpool supporters I'm all for. Also the yanks are jealous of our monarchy So basically you're in favour of anything that annoys groups you dislike, even if that costs hundreds of millions a year in a Britain...

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My counter argument is based on fear of the unknown as England at least has had a Monarchy for over a thousand years. At least with Brexit I knew what society was like before we joined the EU. I know I keep going on about Russia but I'm trying to come up with a country that has genuinely prospered ...

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So how do you think the Monarchy should go? Slowly, starting with Canada, Australia and New Zealand. A dissolving of the commonwealth maybe az its a reminder of our imperialistic path. Do away with the arrogance of ' Great' Britain as a name. Have a public vote on name change maybe a new flag. Or a...

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑Sun May 07, 2023 9:34 am It looks like I am the lone voice in support of the Monarchy on here.
Paging Rhys.....

You probably want to reconsider your position if this is where you're at.

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And the other big thing - as a non-religious person, do you not find the whole religious aspect of it all a bit weird or even uncomfortable? All this is being done for a god that doesn't exist! Does Charles really believe that stuff? Most people today don't. Will William or George? Seems increasing...

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And the other big thing - as a non-religious person, do you not find the whole religious aspect of it all a bit weird or even uncomfortable? All this is being done for a god that doesn't exist! Does Charles really believe that stuff? Most people today don't. Will William or George? Seems increasing...

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