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Points of note: - Jack is always first (this only changes if you go down to just 1 event) - The contents of the top 8 are the same for all of 7-10 events - 6 and 5 introduce Callum, then Rob and Zohaib, having played exactly that number of events - Tom Stevenson appears at 6 (having played 7), but ...

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My approach going forward if my opponent if nwd, is going to be to write it down as they say it (which I already do) but tell them I am doing that and make sure they are looking at what I'm writing (they are saying) and if they disagree with it to say at the time! But yeah it is tricky especially i...

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These rules create more problems than they solve.

Adding potential stress and penalties for everybody in reaction to a very small amount of players (one player) having poor sportsmanship seems like an overreaction.

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I enjoy the FOCAL season system because it gives me a bit of motivation and focus to try and keep good at the game, and it's a nice outlet for my competitive side. However, the amount of spare weekends you have to sacrifice for all this is already untenable at 8 events. I like all of you, but it's p...

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Looks good. If it doesn't already, I think it would be good to make it idiot proof obvious when a conundrum that it's 9 or 10 letters. - Don't assume people will remember what the host said at the start of the game. - Don't assume people will Count 10 squares before the reveal. - Don't assume the ho...

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You can certainly make the argument that the COLIN Hangover should only be worth two-thirds the FOCAL points of the main COLIN event, but only because it has two-thirds of the games, not because players should receive less reward for travelling fewer miles. One thing we need to be careful about her...

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From the perspective of an organiser who hosts his event in the middle of winter in the middle of nowhere, 8 games almost certainly isn't going to happen. COLIN would need to start at about 11am instead of 11:45am (and that's just the actual 'sit down to start playing' and not just my pre-event waf...

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I enjoyed doing 15R at Reading, but 5 games didn't feel like enough to get proper rankings. 6 (my original intention) would have been very tight. Maybe the different options available on atropine to match on wins only might help things. Will probs stick with 15R for next year as it's traditional fo...

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The most chaotic/slow/overrunning event I can recall from past couple of years was Liverpool 2024 and that was 6 Lincoln games. Both Birminghams and Rugbys from past two years had 8 games and I found them to be smoother and feel less rushed. I strongly prefer 8 games! Very happy with the current mix...

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Co event ELO would be awesome. I tried to do it but gave up because aggregating the data was hard. Asking hosts to produce accurate individual results of games with the correct variation of Tom/Thomas/Maus/TCap as the player name initially sounded doable, but honestly I think a host has so much goin...

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Red onion skin. Why does it get everywhere so easily? We somehow took a small piece on holiday with us last week.

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How is the word lookup bring done? Is it checking against some list that needs to be maintained by Tom? Also is there any tracking. This looks great, but I have 2 concerns: 1) Yet another separate source of truth for word check 2) This is the most easy to use, free to use, anonymous to use Countdow...

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How is the word lookup bring done? Is it checking against some list that needs to be maintained by Tom? Also is there any tracking. This looks great, but I have 2 concerns: 1) Yet another separate source of truth for word check 2) This is the most easy to use, free to use, anonymous to use Countdown...

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Attention numbers geeks, the next tourney is a numbers one

Subscribers can join here https://wordgamegeeks.com/countdowntournament?QLPWZ

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Question for the northern lot. Are there any times of the year where you feel like it's tough to get to any event because there are several in a row so very far away? Last few years, for the southern lot I think it's this time of year that it happens. E.g next three Blackpool/Dublin/Glasgow. Getting...

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I mean I tapped the phone to indicate I was having a guess but if someone is scribbling it down that would indicate they're also 'buzzing'. In terms of seeing what the other person has written, that's fine IMO but maybe does need explaining in the preamble Is there a grey area here for people who l...

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https://wordgamegeeks.com/countdowntournament?QLNMo Hey folks. I'm running another experimental tournament in the app. You can click the link above to enroll and view standings. There are 20 spaces and the tournament kicks off tomorrow evening. The format is Round Robin "Turbo" (LLNNC). Yo...

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Great to see everybody again this weekend. Well done to TCap on a great win on Saturday!

Thanks Phil for putting the whole thing on, and Sam was a great co-host/atropine whizz.

I think the silent declaration idea worked quite well, kudos to whoever invented that

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https://greem.co.uk/cgi-bin/colive/tour ... ondon_2024

Event link for those who want to view standings on their own phone

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Last week I played cricket on Sunday and scored 104 runs. Then I played golf on Monday and took 104 shots. Yesterday I went to the dentist and the dental nurse who was a woman was being assessed by a woman. The nurse and the assessor were named Rhys. Was the bowler for the majority of the 104 runs ...

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I think if a conundrum gets voided for any reason, it should generally be completely redone. What do you mean by voided? Here's a scenario for you. I think if it came up at an event most hosts would be inclined to say "redo" because it's perceived as the fairest thing to do, but imo that ...

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Looks great Ben! I don't know if I will be playing Countdown in 2025 but if I am (let's face it I probably will be) then I'm there baby!

Here's to 20 more years of CoLins

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Don't use Google sheets for this. That's like using a gun to chop down a tree. Sure you can do it if you put a lot of time, bullets and effort in. But wouldn't you have been better off going to the store to buy a chainsaw and using that? Learn some beginner python and get familiar with Chat gpt. Ha...

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Don't use Google sheets for this. That's like using a gun to chop down a tree. Sure you can do it if you put a lot of time, bullets and effort in. But wouldn't you have been better off going to the store to buy a chainsaw and using that? Learn some beginner python and get familiar with Chat gpt. Hav...

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It's the end of a Colin style co-event and there is one table left to finish up. All other games are finished, and the outcome of this crucial conundrum determines who makes the final. Alice is 5 ahead of Bob. If Alice wins this game, she makes the final. If Bob wins the game he will stop Alice maki...

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The app uses a SQL DB with a large number of columns including aCount, bCount ... zCount Getting every single available word from a selection is the. A single DB query. You just build a query to fetch all words where aCount of the DB row is LTE the number of As in the selection. I think when I measu...

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Hi I'm subscribed but still getting ads. I've changed my phone recently and had to install the app on it but when I go to "remove ads" manage subscriptions etc just says "you're already subscribed' and then I get ads again just repeats this cycle endlessly....how can I fix this pleas...

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Version 1.131 is now available which contains the updated dictionary! Just keep in mind if you are wanting to max out your score on the daily challenge today, it's possible the max might be higher before updating. From tomorrow for a few days all daily challenges with be numbers and conundrums only ...

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Filming Conundrums is the way to go imo. You also then have a record of what actually happened which can't be argued with. Buzzer app is good for who buzzes first, but doesn't account for other things like player hesitation, or declarations made in a dubious way. Filming isn't hard. When I play a ga...

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I'm sure you can argue for and against the relative merits of each of the tiebreak criteria until the cows come home, but what are you trying to achieve by doing so? Just makes sense to agree something vaguely sensible so that there is a precedent, and then move on. Well, the implication here seems...

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I don't think everything has to be done by Countdown's rules (though 10-letter conundrums are an outrage). But head-to-heads are problematic as explained above. I still don't know what is meant by spread - too much jargon. Points difference? That's not particularly satisfactory anyway as you can't ...

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... there's a good chance it could happen one day if we keep having 10+ events a year for many more years. This has happened before at a co:event, In Blackpool 2029... See I told you it would happen eventually 😂. Apparently it happens 5 years from now according to a time travelling Callum Todd.

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Ways Of Resolving Ties In Standings Had the unusual case at the Goat where two players were tied for 5th and dead-level on wins and points. Was agreed to just leave them level at 5th. In the event this could affect position, and for clarity, I propose separation on the following if possible... -If ...

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01-I'd say about 5 seconds (roughly the same on Apterous), followed by verbal speed-up, then pick a letter. Disagree here - on telly players pick letters one by one and have plenty of thinking time - none of this CV7 where the letters come out with barely time to write them down. I mean clearly som...

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That was a class weekend. Massive thanks to those who put in a lot of thought and effort to make it run as smoothly as it did. Great to see some faces that I haven't seen in a decade, as well as some newer ones that I've either only seen on the show or never seen before. You're all a great bunch of...

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Possibly an unanswerable question, but.... has anyone ever 'pencilled' a new word on Countdown (i.e. made the first declaration of that word, as a max winner) before it was pencilled on Apterous. After apterous had bedded in, of course I think there's a rule on the show that if it hasn't been decla...

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Correct, there is going to be no dictionary update until after Birmingham on the app. For full transparency, the update to the dictionary which added words like Altcoin and Frescoing is also absent from the app. So if Charlie does the Apterous update, and then somebody declares a word like that at t...

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:!: UPDATES REGARDING THE DICTIONARY CHANGE :!: As a result of the abrupt, drastic entry deletions administered by Oxford University Press on Monday, it has been decided that the next two FOCAL events — Goatdown in Birmingham, and Countdown in Birmingham — will continue to use the dictionary seen o...

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Possibly an unanswerable question, but.... has anyone ever 'pencilled' a new word on Countdown (i.e. made the first declaration of that word, as a max winner) before it was pencilled on Apterous. After apterous had bedded in, of course I think there's a rule on the show that if it hasn't been decla...

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I think you've missed the most interesting statistic of them all. How many 2nd time contestants went on to become a series Champion on their 2nd go?

All series Champions from 2014-2015 were 2nd time contestants!

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Also I bet you wouldn't be saying this if "Rachel" was a man.

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After watching every episode of the last three months, I am convinced Rachel Reily is fed the answers through an earpiece. She can't be this good, conjuring all kinds of obscure solutions. What a shame. Rachel is literally the only person on the planet who gets paid a salary to be as good as possib...

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Jack, I would disagree with your opinion that it matters little if co-events diverge from the show. I get that you may feel the TV show no longer relevant just because you and some of your peers are done with the show, but for a whole swathe of newer players who have yet to go on, they are as obses...

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Adam S Latchford wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:48 am As soon as we have enough intel to make the update happen - and it updates on apto / the app then it should come into immediate effect (even if this is quite literally minutes before the co event)

This is pretty much my idea of hell. I'm getting more grey hairs now just thinking about it.

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As with most Countdown events, the first round will be drawn randomly, but don't worry if you have a bumpy start - for the remaining games you will be playing opponents that have scored similarly to you, so everyone should get some good, well matched games. The primary aim is to have fun! Have you ...

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Birmingham doesn't seem problematic - although the dictionary has changed (and Oxford have confirmed it is 'permanent') the dictionary on episodes still being aired will be the old one. Are you implying that the ideal is to have events in sync with exactly what would happen on the TV show at any po...

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What should co events do about this? I've updated a thread here for that discussion As for what happens on the TV show, is it that important? Surely the producers will just do whatever is best for the TV show, they don't really owe anything to "Apterites" do they? I think it's important to...

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With a bit of a discussion cropping up yesterday about some potential dictionary changes: http://c4countdown.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=212141&sid=3cc843b7d3e1b5261271f4e029894bcf#p212141 I think it would be good to reach an agreement on what word lists will be used for upcoming co-events. I would pr...

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Looks good Fiona, nice job. "Player 1 Buzzed" -> "⬅️ This player buzzed" "Player 2 Buzzed" -> "This player Buzzed➡️" Some sort of visual indication that makes it very obvious to the host because I don't think a host would necessarily remember who is P1/P2/Red/...

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Conundrums with people's names in it are great fun at a co-event (a proper one with divisional QFs and a big screen showing selections). I do it every year, and will never stop. The more I think about this, the more I am inclined to agree with Eoin. Let hosts do what they deem fit for an event and ...

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Are the results for this event available anywhere to look at?

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Would love to see this given a go. Much more drama and tension than a standard Conundrum. From a gameplay perspective, it's a better test of consistency and composure which is probably what you want in a final. Also can't be Hansforded. More downsides: - 10 times more like the setter can make a mist...

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Thanks Darren and Co for a fantastic day 🎉 Congrats to Rob on a fantastic win, and becoming the first and only person to beat Zohaib in a co event! Best bit of the day for me was getting to meet Junaid. He's one of the old skool players I'd never had the chance to meet in person. Just got Jeffrey Ha...

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Co:Pilot

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Looks like this will be one of the most stacked events in Co event history!

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I'm genuinely curious to know from hosts what would happen if a player deliberately beat prune 1-0 (or 0-0 on a TB) in order to boost their overall chances of winning an event. I dunno if I'd ever have the balls to do it, but for example if Oxford were to have 5 or 6 more sign ups and I got prune in...

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Carol Vorderman appeared as a guest on HIGNFY on Friday, with former contestant Little Alex Horne as host. Is this the first time a former contestant has hosted a TV show with a former/current Countdown team member as a participant? (excluding Catsdown) No, it isn't; Carol Vorderman appeared in a s...

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Jack - appreciate this isn't like a job thing but there's a dictionary update (very small one) coming on apto https://www.apterous.org/ticket_view.php?ticket=6932 Will it be implement on app before oxford? It's only a lil one but clovers out + hammies in look useful I probably wont have time. Every...

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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 1:05 pm Fun fact: Richard Williams is David Williams's son.

So what you are saying is, this was David Williams getting on for a second go via propagation of his genes. Smart move.

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Maybe the one thing I would question is the value of having a 3rd/4th place play off going on at the same time as the final. I've seen it done before at CoMso, and I'd have to admit I really didn't like it. Trying to play 2 games simultaneously from the same selections with an audience is just real...

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