That just makes me want to do it even more.
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- Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CO:Rea - 20 April 2024
- Replies: 53
- Views: 30362
Re: CO:Rea - 20 April 2024
- Wed Jan 31, 2024 3:11 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
- Replies: 44
- Views: 24026
Re: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
Many thanks again, Ben, for another excellent weekend. I look forward to returning to Pot C next year. I thought the social club was a big improvement on the Fox as it was last year. All the proper post-COLIN sports were available with enough room to mingle, reasonable beer and excellent prices. The...
Re: Music
I think paying for downloads is almost as mental as buying physical music. Four reasons to pay for downloads: 1. Not all music is available to stream 2. Once downloaded, no reliance on the internet 3. Making compilations for others 4. Less energy use 5. The artist gets paid for their talent and eff...
Re: Music
This is my top 5 5. Merry Christmas Everyone - Shakin' Stevens 4. Christmas Time (Don't Let the Bells End) - The Darkness 3. Merry Xmas Everybody - Slade 2. All I Want for Christmas is You - Mariah Carey 1. Fairytale of New York - The Pogues and Kirsty MacColl Really disappointed in your number 2. ...
- Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:10 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-event dictionary
- Replies: 34
- Views: 7821
Re: Co-event dictionary
Up to a point, it really doesn't which words plus arbitrary collections of letters masquerading as words we use, so long as there is a definitive list of them. I'd strongly suggest the position for all events in the short term should be "just use the Apterous dictionary", whether it be vi...
- Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:40 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
- Replies: 44
- Views: 24026
Re: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
This is your reminder that COVID is still a thing and is still capable of ruining your life, so I'd suggest as many attendees as possible try do a lateral flow test shortly before we all share the same small spaces for a weekend. This goes for any CO event, really, until there's one that's fully out...
- Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:07 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co-event dictionary
- Replies: 34
- Views: 7821
Re: Co-event dictionary
Using Oxford Online at an event seems like a bad idea to me because of all the usual ambiguities that are resolved when making an update to the Apterous dictionary. Up to a point, it really doesn't matter which words plus arbitrary collections of letters masquerading as words we use, so long as ther...
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:50 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: What’s the best three-word phrase formed from the conundrum answers on consecutive days?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4041
Re: What’s the best three-word phrase formed from the conundrum answers on consecutive days?
I love how this has become "these were from my run". So in keeping with that, from my run, "wandering polluting columnist" is a great descriptor for Owen Jones. Although not from my run, I do like "disinfect qualified awfulness" from Series 42. Try to limit the Tory bi...
- Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:00 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
- Replies: 44
- Views: 24026
Re: COLIN XIX- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2024
The goodness of my seeding for this year seems more outrageous than any previous bad seeding, but I'll happily take it. Now watch me singularly fail to live up to it.Thomas Cappleman wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 3:52 pm Tim finally found a way to break the Tim Down curse and get an actual good seeding then
- Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:38 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co:Lon - 26 August 2023
- Replies: 27
- Views: 13056
Re: Co:Lon - 26 August 2023
Something has come up that means I can no longer make it. Apologies.
- Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:47 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CoRugby 2023
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14620
Re: CoRugby 2023
COVID test just now very positive indeed, so I’m definitely out.
- Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:55 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CoRugby 2023
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14620
Re: CoRugby 2023
Irritatingly, I now have COVID and it seems highly unlikely I'll be testing negative by Saturday, so I probably won't make it. I'll do a test on Saturday though, more in hope than expectation.
- Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:51 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Countdown adjudication dictionary
- Replies: 103
- Views: 13540
Re: Countdown adjudication dictionary
Should be on the Co events thread but what dictionary is used there? Depends. At my one Co-event we used a combination ODO Premium, Lexplorer and Taking Tim Down's Word For It depending on what people had access to at each table While a significant part of me quite fancies being the authority on wh...
- Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:21 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: CoRugby 2023
- Replies: 31
- Views: 14620
Re: CoRugby 2023
It's quite frustrating living so close to Rugby but having train travel cancelled! Will anyone be driving through the Warwick/Coventry/Leamington area on their way (and way back) on the day? Happy to contribute fuel costs. I'll probably end up just skipping the parkrun but on the off-chance that an...
- Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:42 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XVIII- Countdown in Lincoln, 28-29 January 2023
- Replies: 52
- Views: 13909
Re: COLIN XVIII- Countdown in Lincoln, 28-29 January 2023
Another great COLIN weekend, big thanks to Ben for organizing it yet again, and to everyone for the fun.
Rhys: the score for the Hangover final should be 76-86 rather than 75-85.
Rhys: the score for the Hangover final should be 76-86 rather than 75-85.
- Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:32 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XVIII- Countdown in Lincoln, 28-29 January 2023
- Replies: 52
- Views: 13909
Re: COLIN XVIII- Countdown in Lincoln, 28-29 January 2023
A reminder that COVID hasn't gone away, however much we all pretend that it has, and we're all going to be sitting in a room without air filtration for hours on end, so it would be good for as many as possible to do a lateral flow test before attending. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023...
Re: Music
Four reasons to pay for downloads: 1. Not all music is available to stream 2. Once downloaded, no reliance on the internet 3. Making compilations for others 4. Less energy use 5. The artist gets paid for their talent and effort. Yeah, I get that there are upsides to not streaming. Although I would ...
Re: Music
Four reasons to pay for downloads:Jon O'Neill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:13 pm I think paying for downloads is almost as mental as buying physical music.
1. Not all music is available to stream
2. Once downloaded, no reliance on the internet
3. Making compilations for others
4. Less energy use
Re: Music
Hail to the Theif is underrated as a Radiohead album. I thought after Kid A and Amnesiac I found Hail to the Thief to be a let down apart from the 2 singles. I love In Rainbows so much more in fact as a body of work it's just about my favourite Totally disagree. In Rainbows was a disappointment for...
- Sat Oct 08, 2022 3:46 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
People who log their runs on Strava but just leave them as their default name - e.g. Morning Run or Afternoon Run. Some people took this to a new level today by doing the London Marathon but leaving it titled as "Morning Run", with no description about it or anything. That's truly psychop...
- Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:47 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Cyclists. Love Em Or Hate Em?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 703
Re: Cyclists. Love Em Or Hate Em?
In response to the thread title, you shouldn't hate cyclists. It's a much better form of transport for short journeys than driving, but the road infrastructure makes it not practical or safe in many cases. Ideally, bikes shouldn't have to share the same bit of road with cars at all. In the Netherla...
- Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:35 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XVII- Countdown in Lincoln, 29-30 January 2022
- Replies: 54
- Views: 16537
Re: COLIN XVII- Countdown in Lincoln, 29-30 January 2022
Please could as many as possible do a lateral flow test before coming to COLIN? There is still tons of COVID going around and coming to COLIN represents a pretty big risk of exposure, so it'd be great if we could reduce the risk a little.
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:10 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
Speaking of activity tracking - people who do a run/race that is a set distance in miles or km, but always just leave their watch in the other unit rather than changing it for the event. (I've seen a lot of people log their parkrun in miles.) People who log their runs on Strava but just leave them ...
- Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:45 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
Speaking of activity tracking - people who do a run/race that is a set distance in miles or km, but always just leave their watch in the other unit rather than changing it for the event. (I've seen a lot of people log their parkrun in miles.) People who log their runs on Strava but just leave them ...
- Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:23 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
Also, people who wear their watch in bed. Borderline pyschopathic. I wear mine in bed because it monitors my heart rate and sleep, and one day that extra data might be useful. It hasn't had any value beyond satisfying a bit of curiosity so far, I admit. It's all moot anyway because I cross my 7s an...
- Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:44 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Which words are the most useful to know?
- Replies: 92
- Views: 39761
Re: Which words are the most useful to know?
Also using Anki - got things set so that the total words to revise a day stays within a given range, which works out as 7 9-letter and 20 other new words a day. Been doing it for about a year now, which shows up perfectly on the letters graph here: https://www.apterous.org/superstats_user.php?user=...
- Fri Oct 01, 2021 5:33 pm
- Forum: apterous.org
- Topic: Words You Would Have Thought...
- Replies: 479
- Views: 187210
Re: Words You Would Have Thought...
Yep. Number one on my list of weird omissions too. It's used *all the time* in sport.
Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:46 pm SEEDINGS obviously. A bit of a joke omission.
Edit - Further discussion.
- Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:42 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Olympics 2020
- Replies: 135
- Views: 17829
Re: Olympics 2020
In a wider sense, you could argue that fairness of competition is meaningless. You can have all these rules to make sure people don't have elevated testosterone levels etc., but success in athletics is largely determined by your genetics anyway, certainly at the top end where you can't expect to ga...
- Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:30 pm
- Forum: Games and Puzzles
- Topic: Hardback
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3145
Re: Hardback
I played this a few weeks ago with some friends and enjoyed it. I've also played Paperback (an older game by the same people) with the same friends and I think they'll be more keen to play Paperback in future because we felt the deckbuilding element was more important than the anagramming in Paperba...
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:12 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Sarah Everard/Women's Safety
- Replies: 66
- Views: 14311
Re: Politics in General
Just listen to women. Fiona's here and telling us how it is. They are saying that they are routinely sexually harassed, and nearly all of it goes unreported largely because nothing good will come of it for the victim (often the reverse). While I'm sure it's true that only a statistically small numb...
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:18 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Sarah Everard/Women's Safety
- Replies: 66
- Views: 14311
Re: Politics in General
Just listen to women. Fiona's here and telling us how it is. They are saying that they are routinely sexually harassed, and nearly all of it goes unreported largely because nothing good will come of it for the victim (often the reverse). While I'm sure it's true that only a statistically small numbe...
- Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:42 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Sarah Everard/Women's Safety
- Replies: 66
- Views: 14311
Re: Politics in General
I'm not going to debate this but please, just listen to women. They're not lying.
- Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:43 pm
- Forum: Games and Puzzles
- Topic: Chess - advice for a beginner?
- Replies: 24
- Views: 14316
Re: Chess - advice for a beginner?
Bravo! Just a shame it took you nearly a year.Graeme Cole wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:16 amYou can go any distance uppie-downie or leftie-rightie.
- Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:57 pm
- Forum: Other game shows
- Topic: ...and that's ZoomDown
- Replies: 314
- Views: 117670
Re: ...and that's ZoomDown
I saw that word first and didn't declare it because of how it sounds so I'm fully behind the decision (if it was a decision and not just an oversight) of DC to not mention it. It's hardly a big deal; there's no reason for DC to reel off all the boring maxes anyway. I know they normally do, but I'm ...
- Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:37 pm
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Best lexico example sentences
- Replies: 12
- Views: 5929
Re: Best lexico example sentences
Came across this beauty today "If you really must go for a jog in the middle of a thunder storm, remember to vaseline nipples thoroughly beforehand." https://www.lexico.com/definition/vaseline Gev, can you confirm if this is sound advice? I favour medical tape. More effective and less mes...
- Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:29 pm
- Forum: apterous.org
- Topic: apterous update
- Replies: 34
- Views: 15128
Re: apterous update
Interesting that CDB is down, but the Wiki is up. I would have thought that since they were both [site].apterous.org, there would have been more of a correlation there? Not necessarily. A subdomain (e.g. whatever.example.com) can point anywhere, often to a different server to the main domain or oth...
- Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:28 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: FOCAL scoring system
- Replies: 57
- Views: 54818
Re: FOCAL scoring system
So without resorting to a poll -- rather, to keep this well rounded conversation going -- how do we feel about introducing Gev's points system in January 2020? Unsurprisingly, I'm strongly in favour. Publishing the details of the scoring system somewhere easily findable would be good. I've tried an...
- Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:10 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Thread Of Random (for Marc)
- Replies: 168
- Views: 58431
Re: Thread Of Random (for Marc)
Not one to court controversy but I have believed global warming to be a conspiracy theory with very little hard evidence to support it. Certainly not enough to suggest 'climate change ' is happening now. A conspiracy theory by who? Who would benefit from it? Who benefits from all conspiracy theorie...
- Thu May 16, 2019 11:28 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Online Trophy
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7124
Re: Online Trophy
Sorry Ashton, I'm never up, only Down.Ashton Hancock wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 7:34 am I will then start a 30 second time which when Tim is up I will text ‘Answers Please’ In which you will both send your answers.
- Thu May 09, 2019 11:58 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
I do that as well. I'm failing all the handwriting ones. Also, I cross zeds, which I can't believe is trustworthy.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 4:28 pm People who add the "hat" onto their 5s at the end as a separate line, rather than starting with it in the top right as you would with an S.
- Fri May 03, 2019 4:03 pm
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: People you shouldn't trust
- Replies: 921
- Views: 482738
Re: People you shouldn't trust
I do that. I didn't really know why until now: I am innately untrustworthy.
- Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:09 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: The CoC Predictions Game
- Replies: 81
- Views: 52890
Re: The CoC Predictions Game
Denied by rodent. It was fun, thanks for running it.
- Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:19 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
- Replies: 59
- Views: 83714
Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Seedings are based on averages of finishing positions from the previous 5 events (which all had more or less the same number of participants). Slightly worse news is that most prospective unconfirmed sign-ups are likely to slot in in the top 12. Great, thanks. As I suspected, what I need to do boil...
- Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:14 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
- Replies: 59
- Views: 83714
Re: COLIN XV- Countdown in Lincoln, 19-20 January 2019
Time for the usual outrage that are the provisional seedings. :-) I've used the same 'algorithm' to determine seedings as I did last year, hence why it looks like there may be a few anomalies in there. But it all makes sense, honest. 1 Jack Worsley [snip] 28 Tim Down [snip] 38 Mark Mills No outrage...
- Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:10 am
- Forum: apterous.org
- Topic: Is Apterous down? [DO NOT POST IN THIS TOPIC FOR ANY OTHER REASON]
- Replies: 604
- Views: 392329
Re: Is Apterous down?
Seems to be down again, doing the same thing as last time where it disconnects immediately when trying to log in.
- Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:31 am
- Forum: Off-topic
- Topic: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
- Replies: 66
- Views: 128017
Re: Things normal people normally own but you don't own for some reason
I've only ever worn pyjamas to go swimming in. Bollock-naked is the way to sleep, and if you're cold like that, you need a better quilt. I've only once worn clothes in bed that I can remember (apart from when sharing rooms, when I think general decorum suggests at least keeping my pants on), and th...
- Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:45 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: How to host an event (for dummies)?
- Replies: 44
- Views: 39376
Re: How to host an event (for dummies)?
I've never really understood why the "group" format (often used with Bristol-style, but in principle could be used with Edinburgh-style too) has endured. You play three games, and that decides what section of the table you're going to finish in. If you're 9th after three games, you go int...
- Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:50 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: FOCAL scoring system
- Replies: 57
- Views: 54818
Re: FOCAL scoring system
I've already given a system that I think would work. Basically, in a one-person event, they'd get 50; for two it would be 66.7, 33.3; for three it would be 75, 50, 25 etc. There's a formula out there somewhere but I can't be bothered to find/work it out again right now. I think it's the fairest lin...
- Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:11 am
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: FOCAL scoring system
- Replies: 57
- Views: 54818
Re: FOCAL scoring system
I get the issues people have with the current system, and I get that it's not perfect. But I felt that it was the right one at the time, and I'm yet to see one that eradicates enough issues to make it worth changing it when it's guaranteed to lose much of the simplicity and self-calculation. Ultima...
- Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:02 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: FOCAL scoring system
- Replies: 57
- Views: 54818
FOCAL scoring system
I’d like to propose a new scoring system for FOCAL standings from 2019 onwards. The current system works fine when there are similar attendances at each event. However, a particularly large event such as CO:LON, which has roughly double the number of players of an average event, carries so many poin...
- Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:28 am
- Forum: Countdown - General
- Topic: Which words are the most useful to know?
- Replies: 92
- Views: 39761
Re: Which words are the most useful to know?
I did an analysis on which words would be most useful to learn for each of 3, 4, and 5 vowel picks in standard letters rounds. You can find the results here: http://bit.ly/2KXffJw Download the file as an Excel spreadsheet (don't try and open it as a Google Sheet) and feel free to play around - you ...
- Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:06 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Monday 18th June 2018 (Series 78, QF3)
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5749
Re: Spoilers for Monday 18th June 2018 (Series 78, QF3)
Indeed. Not that complicated, so I was quite surprised Rachel missed it in 30 seconds and then very surprised she didn't get it over the ad break, unless it was cut.
- Thu May 03, 2018 10:50 pm
- Forum: apterous.org
- Topic: App.terous
- Replies: 3
- Views: 6108
Re: App.terous
I would vouch for this but it would be a large hassle to make I'd imagine. It definitely would. What would be more feasible would applying a responsive design to the existing web version, by which I mean a design that adapts the layout to the screen size of the device. Still not a small job but mas...
- Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:40 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co:LeedsLeedsLeeds - Saturday 21st April 2018
- Replies: 22
- Views: 30613
Re: Co:LeedsLeedsLeeds - Saturday 21st April 2018
Will there be post-tourney boozing? Likely. The co:event will finish at 5:30pm and the post-event quiz at around 6:30pm so there will probably be some people in the pub by 6ish and many by 7ish. The pub of choice last year was The Bridgewater Arms in Cardigan Fields, and I suspect it will be so aga...
- Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:00 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: Co:LeedsLeedsLeeds - Saturday 21st April 2018
- Replies: 22
- Views: 30613
Re: Co:LeedsLeedsLeeds - Saturday 21st April 2018
Will there be post-tourney boozing?
- Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:37 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Wednesday 7th March 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 42)
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7265
Re: Spoilers for Wednesday 7th March 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 42)
Zarte's awesome obviously, but has anyone else ever scored with a three letter word declaration? If so, I suspect it wouldn't be someone with a near-perfect record of century game scores! I did (eh eh, nudge nudge), although I was not in anything like Zarte's league, as is apparent from that link.
- Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:37 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 9th February 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 24)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5773
Re: Spoilers for Friday 9th February 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 24)
Same. It's still significantly more frequent that she gets one I've missed than vice versa though.Elliott Mellor wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:48 pm Got 404 too, surprised she missed it. Though she is only human I guess.
- Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:19 pm
- Forum: Countdown - Events
- Topic: COLIN XIV- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2018
- Replies: 38
- Views: 50030
Re: COLIN XIV- Countdown in Lincoln, 27-28 January 2018
Ego and the usual stinkage problems prevent it for me.Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:36 pm I'm probably going to do the Linkin parkrun before COLIN. Rumours suggest Giles and Zubair may also be doing it. Anyone else?
- Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:44 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Tuesday 16th January 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 6)
- Replies: 7
- Views: 5359
Re: Spoilers for Tuesday 16th January 2018 (Series 78, Prelim 6)
Surprised Susie didn't extend Mary's NOTATE to ANNOTATE in R1. Bad miss! I was doubting as to whether I was seeing a phantom letter there :D I doubt she missed it - she likely just didn't want to embarrass Mary and so withheld it. If she did miss it though then meh, it's much easier to do sat at ho...
- Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:29 am
- Forum: Countdown - Spoilers
- Topic: Spoilers for Friday 15th December 2017 (Series 77, QF2)
- Replies: 17
- Views: 11610
Re: Spoilers for Friday 15th December 2017 (Series 77, QF2)
Cheers Ray & Samir! If he had declared 814, it would have been a 14 point swing, would have won by 8. It was tense in the studio watching it! Quite right, if all the other rounds had gone the same. So it was quite fortunate for me! Maybe it made up for the awkwardness of some of the letters rou...