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Rhys Benjamin wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:36 pm
Here's how I personally rank them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo1gcYfDMeo

Nothing better than a personal rank.
Jonathan Ross can confirm this.

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Tight game!
I was rooting for you Malcolm... ul

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New version with the March dictionary update: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1wFb81qX96Eezqs1pbohYiVOBoD4LcS_4 Hey! It looks like the March update is not the only change in this version. I am noticing a few tiny differences in the order of usefulness. e.g. In V4, ANODISERS and INSULATED wer...

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Fiona T wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 31, 2021 10:05 am
Stats and that are all very interesting, but shouldn't undermine...

This thread is not about 'undermining'. It is about discussion of stats.
Feel free to set up a "Celebrating wonderful achievements" thread where we can pour oodles of praise on each new Octochamp.

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Series 75 Highest max = 1093 Lowest max = 1025 Average max = 1061 Series 55 Highest max = 1066 Lowest max = 990 Average max = 1022 It would be interesting to see if, in the age of regular OED updates, this average octomax stat has been steadily rising with each new series... Sam C-L - 1045 points a...

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We are on the cusp... Another Luke about to use the force (of his anagramming skill) to join the relatively newly minted but burgeoning 1000 club! Atta Boynton! But enough with the cringy puns. No-one's here for those! The concept of CD's 1000 club has moved on greatly since this thread was first ma...

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Does JOS mean "just on screen" or something?

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Phil H wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:36 pm
A couple of times Dan probably didn't help him points-wise by picking a final consonant...

Totally this.
It was one of those - screaming "PICK A VOWEL!" at the telly - sorts of games...

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Matt Morrison wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:54 pm
No one calls him an agitator.

Or a statistician?

What I neglected to say in my first post (but probably should have) was:
"This is a cool observation Rhys. Nice work. I had been wondering how long it might take for Susie to overtake Carol."

L'oisleatch McGraw

Don't care enough, Rhys.
About that, or about this conversation.
It is, in fact, weird that I keep putting new comments on it.
Clearly have too much time on my hands.

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You can say that again!
And if Rds 3 and 6 had been just a little kinder, a new record would have been set today.

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My one absolute solid piece of advice for ZD people would be this:- <Be firm and fair.> --------------------------------- Being fair is paramount. Being fair is more important than being nice, and certainly more important than being 'politician nice / corporate nice' (aka, nice on the surface, but n...

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Christmas has come early this year!

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Nah, Catsdown is a merger of two formats, rather than a spin off of one... and as the comedy probably takes more airtime than gameplay, it should get bumped off the list for sure. (Perhaps the other two you mentioned should be dropped too from a purist's point of view? I am not sure. I don't know wh...

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Adam Dexter wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 24, 2021 4:28 pm
I had the saddest amount of cakes, which is of course NOCAKES

hahaha, love it!

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Whatever. It's immaterial... The point is, while Catsdown is a comedy show that isn't Countdown, Susie is not due to overtake Carol on April 13th. If Catsdown counts, I would agree that ZD may as well also be included. (Though yes, I understand that you mentioned several times in the original post t...

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Well, for it to have credibility... it should probably meet a certain standard that is generally accepted. e.g. Should the actual show acknowledge Susie's achievement when she reaches Rhys's threshold, or when she reaches a threshold that only includes real CD episodes sans gimmickry? By the same to...

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Rhys Benjamin wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 23, 2021 5:44 pm
Catsdown episodes: 135

Those qualify?

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More interesting goaty stuff from RD 13...

The selection was VTLOEIAN before Luke plumbed for a final consonant.
Consonant gives around a 5% chance of a 9, vowel would give 40%ish.
(again the %s do not take letters distribution into account... if they did, both %s would be a bit higher.)

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5 vowels in R11 was a mistake. Yes! I wondered about that too. Luke seemed to hesitate before his final vowel pick, as though he were fishing... I expected him to go consonant. Afterwards when I checked the SEDATION stems, I was surprised to see that a final vowel gives a 20% chance of a 9 whereas ...

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And I want a million euro, but boohoo. We don't always get what we want. This is not comparable. This is much more like posting online that your closeted friend is gay. I don't think anyone would agree that it's a nice thing to do. I'm not saying that revealing your pseudo is equivalent to coming o...

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Edward McCullagh wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:47 pm
I'm in Waterford the week after

Funny you mention that.
Originally it was supposed to be scheduled for that very weekend, but there are two regulars who cannot make that date, so it got pushed back.

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Replying to the "gay marriage" topic has been on my to-do list for a while now (almost 2 months) but better late than never. :) My objection to the introduction of SSM here, was to do with the language... but moreso to do with muddying the clarity of the concept itself. -----------------------------...

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I'll take a "mumsy" image over "a bit of a dick" one any day. Wanting to shake off your "Mumsy image" was something that you mentioned publicly before... ...but "bit of a dick" is simply you resorting to name-calling, so yeah, I won't be replying to any more snarky comments on this thread. Probably...

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Just makes me a bit glum... then some tedious judgy stuff. The 'firm dressing down' comment was supposed to be a bit of banter, but if we must venture into tediousness, I have some tedious advice for you too. If you are keen to shake off the 'mumsy' image, cutting back a bit on the schoolmarmy stuf...

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L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:05 pm
No doubt it'll be confirmed for sure soon.

Yeah, it's him.

Congrats to Luke / William on a barnstorming 2nd debut!

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Yeah, I can't say I get the whole secrecy thing - but that's his choice - it's not really for you to announce to the world. Are you giving me a firm dressing down again Fiona? I do so love our little chats! :mrgreen: Maybe it's not him, but that is the word on the street... either him, Bruce Wayne ...

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TL;DR summary: ~It will probably be a socially distanced event with hand sanitiser and facemasks. ~We worked within these parameters last year, and it worked well. ~The numbers are provisionally capped at 24, but if social distancing rules are relaxed in the interim, we will review that. ~It costs €...

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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:08 pm

L'oisleatch McGraw wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:30 pm

Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:06 pm
Who is this new champion guy? Is he on Apterous?
Yes he is.
What name does he go by?

William R. Draper

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Gavin Chipper wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:06 pm
Who is this new champion guy? Is he on Apterous?

Yes he is.

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I'm afraid that's all you're going to get. Not at all Fiona. This community is too small for that sort of secretive malarky to fly. I'll get as much as I please. for personal reasons Yeah, but that's the same lie you used for James, so it can't be taken at face value this time either. "Suspected ch...

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Fiona T wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:20 am
Ashwin has withdrawn for personal reasons.

But why reinstate Ruth?
Is this another cheating (well suspected cheating) controversy that ye are trying to hush up?

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Why has Ruth been reinstated for Monday's episode?
That is weird. She was beaten last Monday.

2moro should see Ashwin bid for Tetrachampdom...

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3. Sam is right that the 'two letters rounds + conundrum' value of a 9 is an important factor raising the value of a 9. You mention conundrums... If you look at CD holistically (rather than focusing on letters rounds in isolation) 9s become even more important again, as every conundrum that will be...

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I only mentioned it because she has a habit of being biased towards female players in games. Sometimes she's quite vocally disappointed if they lose. Meh. I suppose that can be a little bit grating in general. Agreed. But I didn't see anything bad in how she went about the whole "RACHEL OATH" thing...

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Yeah, no. As in she's not funny, or she wasn't on flying form? Methinks someone's just jealous cuz she's prettier than him... ;) The remark at the end about RACHEL OATH, was warm and kind, but was also a throwaway jokey remark. Shows she's human. I am sure that whoever played in today's match was ma...

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Did ye notice Rachel in this episode? She was on flying form. From her "Price is right gags" at the start... to saying she'd like to continue with pies for 45mins. Then after Rd6 nums, going down a fake elevator after her solve. lol Something in the water. She may have a future in comedy yet. She ce...

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Right so! I wouldn't have bothered with this post, but I got labelled as "Agitator" in the ZD documentary so I now feel obligated not to disappoint. Here are some much needed criticisms of Zoomdown (Ye can thank me later! :mrgreen:): -------------------------------------- 1. Paul's gift of the gab. ...

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JackHurst wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:05 pm
Next thing you know they will be calling him "The Overweight Controller". This is Rhys's nightmare.

Didn't they change that over 20 years ago to "Sir. Toppam Hat"?

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Phil H wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:42 pm
I'm guessing they've given it some kind of 'woke' makeover, given that Rhys seems to want to turn every conversation these days into that conversation.

Pointless dig at Rhys.
Stay classy Phil.

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From what I've seen here it looks like my usefulness spreadsheet does undervalue 9s, as suspected by a few people in the thread (even when ignoring things like match-winning potential and psychological factors). Also my spreadsheet still overvalues words with repeated letters, despite the measures ...

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Is this the first time pseudonyms have appeared in the COLIN results?

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As much as I like Colin, if all this pseudo-controversy within this influenceless and invisibly small niche group leads to him not getting the job... I believe this invisibly small niche group (and Apterous) lead to people being cast in Christmas specials a month ago. I'd say that's a little more i...

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Marc Meakin wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:28 pm
I think personally, I am more of a Nick must go camp member

Well, Nick IS going, so you have your wish. That's a non-issue now.
The important consideration is who the replacement will be?
Mr. Murray a strong front runner.

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The Countdowners group is quite a good barometer of public opinion, and he has as many fans as detractors at the moment. I wouldn't agree with that. "Countdowners" will show a more pro-Colin slant than would occur naturally. The anti-Colin threads get locked, and there is a general consensus among ...

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- Nines only come up in 7% of rounds, compared to 34% where the max is eight and 41% where the max is seven (according to apto) - A single eight can be the most useful word in many different rounds. - You can play sevens and eights even when they're not the max, although my doc doesn't account for ...

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So, are we still loving Colin in Nick's chair? I was mostly onboard until Monday's episode where some doubts arose. In that episode he did these things... ------------------------------------------- 1. Gave a stern "pens down" instruction to the challenger in one of her first letters rounds, then pr...

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The main reason I'm not a vegetarian/vegan is, and I know this sounds shitty, the convenience. Was going through this thread silently eye-rolling, till I saw this clanger. No-one ever has to apologise for not being vegan. The opposite, ...maybe, if e.g. it makes hosting a dinner party more awkward ...

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I voted "No" on gay marriage Just to slightly deviate from the topic at hand, might one enquire why you voted "no"? No problem. I was ashamed that same sex marriage was being pushed for, that it made its way onto the political agenda, and very disappointed that many gay people were campaigning for ...

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I understand that the best way for someone to learn these would be to go through the list from top to bottom in whatever sorts of chunks seem manageable ...however not everyone likes to do it that way. If you were to learn the words in chunks of 100 by letter count (so "Essential nines Vol. 1" being...

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- It's just me that works on this - I update the lexicon and run a new simulation whenever Apterous publishes its dictionary changes. Well, the replies that have come in since, have me convinced that it is currently as near perfect as it needs to be... So I can put to bed any lingering reservations...

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I do have empathy and sympathy for Rhys. The lockdown is tough and I hope he has decent support. But I also think changing his politics would be a benefit to him as well as everyone else and would be an additional step to him feeling better. Well I disagree with that. If we all shared the same poli...

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Splitting hairs Everything I've written in the last few days on this thread is about splitting hairs. This is a near perfect resource, and fair play to Rob (and anyone else involved) for making it. Is it perfect? No. Will it ever be perfect? No. Why be an arsehole and point that out? Because I thin...

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Doing a little more nerding around this... I listed 20 (more problematic imo) nine-letter words from both our lists in order of playability, and then checked how often each word had appeared on Countdown, and on Apterous. I then listed 20 nine-letter words in order of playability that were in the To...

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Ian Volante wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:54 pm
Would it make that much difference? I'm not sure.

Hey, it's an Ian Volante of this world!

Probably not a massive difference, no...
Though there have been quite a few of ye in the last 10 years.

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I spent this evening getting to grips with your word list... and I have some observations to make. What I am about to write may not be of great relevance, but in case I have stumbled upon something useful that could help you, I am sharing. Back in 2017 I made my own nerd list in preparation for goin...

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Thank you. I am not familiar with excel. I didn't tick the relevant box... and may have done other things wrong, not sure. But it is working now. By the way, I don't know if this is any use to you for future editions, but what I did was included Column A when resorting the data, then added a new col...

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The Ian Volante's of this world, might help increase that percentage slightly - if their non-octo contribution from their original series is now stricken as they have subsequently attained Octo status?

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If I sort the document by Word length (i.e. Column D), so that it lists all the 9s first, the the 8s etc; the data in columns O and R disappears. Is there a way to sort it that way without that happening?

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I'd like to nominate this thread for c4c dispute of the year. ffs! :oops: Those comments aren't getting deleted any time soon, are they? :lol: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As far as GOTY is concerned, I am far too lazy for the nominations st...

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